On 4 Dec, 19:00, "Niteawk"  wrote:
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> >>> Seems to be a fair bit of screw them on both sides. Plus a good chunk
> >>> of trying to do the rigfht thing on each side too.
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> >> I dont think so, a very high percentage will be signing on for the first
> >> time ever. Plus a fair percentage will not be out of work for long, you
> >> cant say these people have a screw them attitude. Maybe you can, this
> >> proves what some of us have been saying, you tar everyone with the same
> >> brush.
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> > it does work both ways...
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> Oh no it does not, there is a big difference, you lot make the rules and
> call the tune, like I said before, its down to you and how you treat people.- Hide quoted text -
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You lot?
I'm a charity worker who begs for a living. On a commercial scale
(spare a grand guv?).

I and the staff I work with have to have some rules. Which we do
make.
Things like no dealing on the premises. Outside the door is a
different matter....

Martin  <><

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> On 11 Dec, 20:07, "Niteawk"  wrote:
>> "Robbie"  wrote in message
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>> >> "Robbie"  wrote in message
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>> >>>>> YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! I'VE GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>> >>>> And it wasnt from the JC i'll wager.
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>> >>> Does it matter? You're supposed to say "well done" not find another
>> >>> reason to be sarcastic about the JC!
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>> >> It does matter, if she got that job through the JC then I will have to
>> >> adjust my stats to read 0.000000001 Why am I supposed to say well 
>> >> done,
>> >> is that in the rules? of course I wish her well, that goes without
>> >> saying. I can get a job anytime I like in the charity sector. Plenty 
>> >> of
>> >> jobs around if you dont mind working for nothing ;)
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>> > What's the JC got to do with getting a job? It's up to you not any
>> > organisation.
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>> I wish it was up to me, the JC I go to insists that I do what they say, 
>> they
>> wont allow me to train so I cant get the skills needed to earn a living 
>> wage
>> nor will they provide the training that they say they are offering 
>> people.
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>> > Answer me one question: when did you last work?
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>> Recently I was working for charity, ordered to attend as per usual, 
>> failure
>> to comply may result in loss of benefit, the usual threats. Not 
>> surprisingly
>> employers were sceptical about this as a work history. Apparently anyone 
>> can
>> work for charity.
>> Great job though, you cant knock a system that gets people out to work 
>> for
>> free, proleterian scum dont need money, flog the lot of them, bastards!- 
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> Yes, great system that employs more people than the banking industry,
> that gets more work done per pound spent than most companies (due to
> volunteers) and mostly tries to tackle the problems that society
> leaves behind.

And they dont do that very well, we still have homeless people and poverty, 
piss poor health care. But we still find time to help people in other 
countries, I would say help other countries when we have sorted out our own 
problems first.



> Education for the poor, help for the needy, even help for the
> unemployed - started by charities.

Education for the poor? what does that mean, no sleeping in shop doorways 
allowed.


> They can do what government departments and government employees
> cannot. If both the funding and the workforce is there.


Cant we all. We can all work miracles if we have the money.



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> Every so often a government takes over the work - though its more
> commonly the other way round.
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> Oh, and yes anyone can work for a charity. The trick is to stick it
> out and learn some skills.
> Pay isn't bad, working conditions can be odd and no job is guaranteed.
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Every cloud and all that.

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> "Robbie"  wrote in message 
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>>>>>>>> YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!! I'VE GOT A JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it wasnt from the JC i'll wager.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does it matter? You're supposed to say "well done" not find 
>>>>>> another reason to be sarcastic about the JC!
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>>>>>
>>>>> It does matter, if she got that job through the JC then I will have 
>>>>> to adjust my stats to read 0.000000001 Why am I supposed to say 
>>>>> well done, is that in the rules? of course I wish her well, that 
>>>>> goes without saying. I can get a job anytime I like in the charity 
>>>>> sector. Plenty of jobs around if you dont mind working for nothing ;)
>>>>
>>>> What's the JC got to do with getting a job? It's up to you not any 
>>>> organisation.
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>>>
>>> I wish it was up to me, the JC I go to insists that I do what they 
>>> say, they wont allow me to train so I cant get the skills needed to 
>>> earn a living wage nor will they provide the training that they say 
>>> they are offering people.
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>> The JC insist on you doing things to get benefit - what YOU do is down 
>> to you. You have the ability to find a job, the fact you don't have 
>> one is down to your attitude.
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>>>> Answer me one question: when did you last work?
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>>> Recently I was working for charity, ordered to attend as per usual, 
>>> failure to comply may result in loss of benefit, the usual threats. 
>>> Not surprisingly employers were sceptical about this as a work 
>>> history. Apparently anyone can work for charity.
>>> Great job though, you cant knock a system that gets people out to 
>>> work for free, proleterian scum dont need money, flog the lot of 
>>> them, bastards!
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>> You know what I meant - when did you last work for an employer that 
>> had you off JSA? Don't try to answer by going around the houses and 
>> avoiding the question. I bet you haven't worked for years. I know for 
>> a fact you haven't for the last 3 to 4 years, from your postings here 
>> but how much further back does your unemployment go?
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> I told you when I last worked and you are still not happy, why is that. 
> Are you saying that it does not count as work. The JC was wasting my 
> time.....again.

You still avoid answering! You remind me of my dad - I never got a 
straight answer from him, he bullshitted most of his life - I hope you 
didn't die in a canoe accident otherwise I might think you're him coming 
back from the dead ;)
-- 
Robbie