Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

On 2 Nov, 22:10, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:

<snip>

Last time you wanted people to send you sleeping meds and before that
you posted a very similar question to this latest one, about taking
part in medical trials. Just stop trolling, eh? We're not that dumb.

On 2 Nov, 22:26, BoredToTears  wrote:
> On 2 Nov, 22:10, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Last time you wanted people to send you sleeping meds and before that
> you posted a very similar question to this latest one, about taking
> part in medical trials. Just stop trolling, eh? We're not that dumb.

First off,kudos to you for being able to remember my old posts. But I
really am not a troll at all. I suffer from severe OCD and
depression,almost every waking moment is very uncomfortable, I simply
don't have the energy to engage in such childish persuits as trolling.

_/ zaman_2756@yahoo.com  wrote \_
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

If you cancel your internet access, you'll have more money.

-- 
 -slunky

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:36:47 -0700, zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:

>On 2 Nov, 22:26, BoredToTears  wrote:
>> On 2 Nov, 22:10, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Last time you wanted people to send you sleeping meds and before that
>> you posted a very similar question to this latest one, about taking
>> part in medical trials. Just stop trolling, eh? We're not that dumb.
>
>First off,kudos to you for being able to remember my old posts. But I
>really am not a troll at all. I suffer from severe OCD and
>depression,almost every waking moment is very uncomfortable, I simply
>don't have the energy to engage in such childish persuits as trolling.

Use your energy to get better. Go and see someone at citizens advice
about your money problems. Stop spending money you don't have.
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http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:10:19 -0700, zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:

>Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
>on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
>into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
>I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
>500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
>The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
>can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
>I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
>depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
>So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
>making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

 As a person who had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome for all my life I know
exactly the problems you face.  In my case 10 years ago (I'm retired
now) I found by chance that I am food intolerant to soy, gluten,
legumes and a few more common foods that in others would trigger an
allergic reaction. 

I'll skip the discovery process and get straight down to the "cure"
you may try.  Avoid intolerance foods. Look up WIKI on "The Leaky
Gut".  Avoid medications especially over the counter comfort "cures."
Two years after my "discovery"  I attended a public lecture out of
curiosity and discovered what I was suffering from had a name.  Look
up the Internet on CFS.  The CFS guide  describes the story of my life
to a tee.  I was flabbergasted and yet relieved that I had a real
disease and it wasn't "in my head."

The first thing I discovered was that I enjoyed a good night's sleep,
something I had not experienced for years.  I could wake up feeling
fresh.  Or at least fresher than I had felt for years.  If all it took
was to avoid intolerance foods to get a good night's sleep who cares
what the explanation or theories were not that I was aware of any.
Over the months many of the CFS problems I had began to clear up.
Many problems I didn't even know I had also cleared up.  Things like
bloating, a swollen tongue and undefinable uncomfortable GI tract, dry
mouth, dandruff and dry skin cleared up.  That feeling of lack of
control of one's wellbeing decreased.   I had always looked in the
pink of health and rarely if ever ill with something a doctor can
prescribe something for and fix.  Therefore no one ever suspected I
had CFS. There wasn't even a medical recognition or definition until
1987.

With intolerance foods our body's immune system is cranked all the way
up to fight the "toxins".    That means our metabolism is elevated and
never allowed to  achieve basal rate - I feel toasty all the time.
That's my theory why we do not get restful sleep.

Your severe depression is a consequence of the lack of restful sleep.
You can sleep many hours, more than is good for you.  Yet you will
wake up feeling very tired, have a headache and quite incapable of
doing doing even the simplest household chore like making a meal.
Been there.

Use the common allergen foods as your reference point.  This may
include the "health foods" such as tofu,  liver, kidneys and a few
other exotic stuff food faddists will swear by.  Another good
reference point is foods some kid hate such as cabbage-brocolli, peas,
spinach. Remove them from your meals.  I won't confuse you with my
theories as to why.   Try for two months at least to eat the simplest
foods that agree with you.   Fresh meat and veggies.  Plain carbs such
as rice, oats or wheat flour.  Avoid processed foods.  They all have
soy flour or oil added and spices.  For me that's practically toxic.
They taste darn good though.  Now that I am resensitized even a cube
of tofu in soup will give me an instant cold sore on my inner lip.  As
an oriental there was soy in every meal and you see why I had an
undiscovered  lifelong problem until late in life.  This brings up the
point that you must use minimal salt and no other condiments or
sauces.  

If you can't stand all this plain food by all means go beck to your
regular diet for a meal or two.  It won't kill you or make you
violently ill..   Then go back to the plain foods.  As your body is
resensitized to intolerance foods you will be able to discern what
foods you should avoid and work out your own diet.. 

If this regimen bring you some improvement I have helped you.  If it
doesn't I haven't harmed you or made you spend unecessary money.  And
I haven't given you spurious medical advice.  Good luck.

On Nov 2, 6:10 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

The benefits system is much more generous in England than in other
countries posters on this thread are in.  Apply for DLA.  And be
grateful your situation isn't worse, as it is for folks like us in
Canada, the US, and Australia.

Good luck.

On 3 Nov, 04:58, Michelle la Belle  wrote:
> On Nov 2, 6:10 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> > on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> > into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> > I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> > 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> > The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> > can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> > I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> > depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> > So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> > making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> The benefits system is much more generous in England than in other
> countries posters on this thread are in.  Apply for DLA.  And be
> grateful your situation isn't worse, as it is for folks like us in
> Canada, the US, and Australia.
>
> Good luck.

Yes,you're right,that I should be grateful I'm in the UK,instead of
the US or Canada. But this is not about me being grateful for the
amount of money I'm getting,but instead all that I wanted to now is of
a realatively easy way of making extra money to cover the debts I'm
facing.
I've considered completing online surveys,but they pay a very small
amount per completed survey. So,once again,if anyone knows of any ways
of getting some extra money I'd be interested in hearing it.
Bye friends.

On 3 Nov, 10:56, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 04:58, Michelle la Belle  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 2, 6:10 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> > > on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> > > into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> > > I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> > > 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> > > The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> > > can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> > > I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> > > depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> > > So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> > > making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> > The benefits system is much more generous in England than in other
> > countries posters on this thread are in.  Apply for DLA.  And be
> > grateful your situation isn't worse, as it is for folks like us in
> > Canada, the US, and Australia.
>
> > Good luck.
>
> Yes,you're right,that I should be grateful I'm in the UK,instead of
> the US or Canada. But this is not about me being grateful for the
> amount of money I'm getting,but instead all that I wanted to now is of
> a realatively easy way of making extra money to cover the debts I'm
> facing.
> I've considered completing online surveys,but they pay a very small
> amount per completed survey. So,once again,if anyone knows of any ways
> of getting some extra money I'd be interested in hearing it.
> Bye friends.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Work is a relatively easy way of making money.
Or selling some of what you have - on ebay, car boot, local market or
wherever.
Selling body parts has been known to work, though I won't personally
recommend it. Or volunteering for medical trials, though depends on
what your body and its chemicals is like.

Delivering free papers is a regular way of getting money to cover
debts too. All weathers, but even £20 or £30 a week adds up. And
always seem to be vacancies.

Martin  <><

In article ,
 zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
 
> Yes,you're right,that I should be grateful I'm in the UK,instead of
> the US or Canada. But this is not about me being grateful for the
> amount of money I'm getting,but instead all that I wanted to now is of
> a realatively easy way of making extra money to cover the debts I'm
> facing.
> I've considered completing online surveys,but they pay a very small
> amount per completed survey. So,once again,if anyone knows of any ways
> of getting some extra money I'd be interested in hearing it.
> Bye friends.

You might try discussing your situation with a local social services 
worker or job placement service to see if they have any ideas. Also, 
can't you get drug treatment for your depression? I just had dinner a 
few days ago with a relative who lives in the UK and he was extolling 
the virtues of their socialized medical system, so I imagine if you do 
need drug therapy that it would probably be free or very low cost.

I know someone in her early 40's who has severe bipolar depression. I 
have known this person since she was a baby. She takes medicine for her 
depression and she undergoes weekly psychological therapy. Her treatment 
helps her immensely. Finding the right medicine for her took several 
years, but she functions great, to the point where she owns a thriving 
business and is helping her husband start up a second business.

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 03:56:07 -0700, zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:


>
>Yes,you're right,that I should be grateful I'm in the UK,instead of
>the US or Canada. But this is not about me being grateful for the
>amount of money I'm getting,but instead all that I wanted to now is of
>a realatively easy way of making extra money to cover the debts I'm
>facing.
>I've considered completing online surveys,but they pay a very small
>amount per completed survey. So,once again,if anyone knows of any ways
>of getting some extra money I'd be interested in hearing it.
>Bye friends.

You earn more money you'll get less benefits. If you're well enough to
work you shouldn't be on benefits. 

What skills do you have? Can you write short articles? Can you
research? There are job opportunities out there for people with lots
of skills but if you are not fit to work then you should just stop
spending money and get some debt advice.

If you can write stunningly good articles you could sell them or work
for someone for cash but then you'd have to declare your earnings.
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http://www.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free

On 3 Nov, 12:14, Shawn Hirn  wrote:
> In article ,
>
>  zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Yes,you're right,that I should be grateful I'm in the UK,instead of
> > the US or Canada. But this is not about me being grateful for the
> > amount of money I'm getting,but instead all that I wanted to now is of
> > a realatively easy way of making extra money to cover the debts I'm
> > facing.
> > I've considered completing online surveys,but they pay a very small
> > amount per completed survey. So,once again,if anyone knows of any ways
> > of getting some extra money I'd be interested in hearing it.
> > Bye friends.
>
> You might try discussing your situation with a local social services
> worker or job placement service to see if they have any ideas. Also,
> can't you get drug treatment for your depression? I just had dinner a
> few days ago with a relative who lives in the UK and he was extolling
> the virtues of their socialized medical system, so I imagine if you do
> need drug therapy that it would probably be free or very low cost.
>
> I know someone in her early 40's who has severe bipolar depression. I
> have known this person since she was a baby. She takes medicine for her
> depression and she undergoes weekly psychological therapy. Her treatment
> helps her immensely. Finding the right medicine for her took several
> years, but she functions great, to the point where she owns a thriving
> business and is helping her husband start up a second business.

Someone extolling the virtues of the national health service (NHS)?
Seriously, its not bad. Drugs are set price (about £6.50 per item on
prescription for those that have to pay) or free to those on certain
benefits.
Doctors and hospital visits are free - even dentists if you can find
one covering NHS patients (there are still a few).

The problems come with different standards, different drugs (one area
may be willing to pay for a drug thats not given in another area -
known as a postcode lottery) and not enough time.
I've met some wonderful doctors. And some crap ones. Some will simply
authorise drugs without trying to get to the root of the problem,
others will go a step further but takes more time and resources.

Getting decent therapy can be a bit harder. Some are hardly helped at
all, others get a session only when there's resources to handle them.
Could be every few months for some.
The health service has been known to cut services to balance its
books. Basically its a big financial black hole that can always spend
more money than its given, but it does do a good job compared to some
countries health services.

Martin  <><

wrote in message 
news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,


I would have thought working should help with depression. Its better to have 
a job earning good money rather than sitting around all day doing nothing.





And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt.


Now that IS depressing.


>Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?


I do not know about easy, I suppose if you can come up with a good idea or 
invention, it can make you rich.



> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.


They cant all be life threatening or no one would take part.




> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>

There is no easy way to earn money as such unless begging becomes a 
recognised occupation. Even then you have to make some effort to get out 
there otherwise your situation is not going to improve.

It would be good for you to be around people and get out of the house, so...

Why don't you go to where rich people are in your area, stand outside, and 
ask people for a moment of their time. Tell them you are learning and would 
like to know if they could suggest ways for you to make money.

Some people may not give you the time of day. Others may tell you to get a 
job. BUT maybe a few will take some time and listen to you. Perhaps one of 
them will give you some good advice. Maybe someone would need some help 
typing something up? Who knows??? At least you will get out of the house and 
get some exercise. This is good!

 wrote in message
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>

On 3 Nov, 14:29, "Niteawk"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Due to severe depression I am unable to work,
>
> I would have thought working should help with depression. Its better to have
> a job earning good money rather than sitting around all day doing nothing.
>
> And the benefits I'm
>
> > on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> > into debt.
>
> Now that IS depressing.
>
> >Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
>
> I do not know about easy, I suppose if you can come up with a good idea or
> invention, it can make you rich.
>
> > I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> > 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> > The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> > can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
>
> They cant all be life threatening or no one would take part.
>
> > I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> > depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> > So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> > making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> There is no easy way to earn money as such unless begging becomes a
> recognised occupation. Even then you have to make some effort to get out
> there otherwise your situation is not going to improve.

We have beggars in our nearby town. Not all are actually penniless.
Can earn £30 in a day. And get beaten up, weed on, get very cold and
have people buying them food. Or can earn just a few quid.
At risk from other beggars from taking their spot or their custom.

Martin  <><

wrote in message 
news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>

Since you're depressed you probably have a hard time doing anything.

So the easiest way to make "extra" money is to do even less.

Do less by cutting back on your lifestyle until you are living within
your means. That is the surest way to get "extra" money. You don't
have to compete for the job and no one can fire you.

Once your lifestyle stabilizes and matches your income, you will find
yourself less stressed.  Then you can have something to look forward
to by considering what else you can do to improve your life without
being under pressure to pay your bills.

Don

zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.

Unless these things work differently in the UK than they do in the US,
you've ruled them out before learning enough about them.

In the US, medical trials do sometimes involve testing an experimental
drug, but there are also other types.  For example, there are trials
where they test the effectiveness or dosage of an existing (and known
to be safe) drug for a new purpose.  As a college student, I needed to
have my wisdom teeth removed and learned about a study where they would
remove the teeth (that I needed removed anyway) and test the
effectiveness of a certain dosage of a pain medication.  It was a drug
that had already got government approval; they just wanted to do
research to know what dosage to recommend for wisdom tooth extraction.

Having said that, I doubt if medical studies are going to be a reliable,
steady income source.  They might help you knock out some of the debt,
but they aren't a long-term or even a medium-term solution.  There just
aren't going to be that many of them that you qualify for and that are
low-risk.

> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.

It doesn't seem like a great way to make a lot of money.  But anything
you do is going to require you to exert some energy, and probably get
out of the house, sometimes when you aren't feeling like it.

Speaking of energy, I cannot recommend physical exercise enough.  I
didn't believe it myself, actually, until I tried it, but in the last
few years, I have started exercising regularly for the first time in
my life, and I've learned that it makes a big difference in your
energy level.  It doesn't magically solve all your problems, but it
can sometimes eliminate that "all I really want to do right now is
lie on the couch for a bit" feeling (that you might have all day
long sometimes, at least I do) and replace it with a feeling of
having a nice, decent amount of energy physically.

Exercise may not change your mental state, but having your physical
energy level increased is still worthwhile.  Then again, it can even
affect your mental state.  Especially heavy-duty cardio (like running
5 miles) can do that.  You've heard of a "runner's high", probably,
and that does exist, but exercise can also sometimes allow a sort of
emotional release where you can let go of your stress and other
negative stuff that's floating around in your head and not doing
you any good.

> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

Odd jobs?  It would depend on what kind of skills you have.  I don't
know what the laws are in England, but here in the US, you can often
work small, one-time jobs for individuals on a cash-only basis and
nobody is going crack down on that make such people report that income
to the government.  I'm talking about helping people move stuff, paint
their house, or whatever.  It's not glamorous, but I guess it would
work, and it would have the advantage that you wouldn't need to commit
to anything if your mental state isn't conducive to being bound to show
up M-F at the same time, week after week.

Of course, there are many ways to make money.  If you're a computer
programmer, you can write some shareware software and post that on
the internet and make a trickle of income off of that.  It just depends
on what you're good at, what resources you have available to you, and
what ideas you have.

   - Logan

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Don K wrote:

>  wrote in message
> news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
>> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
>> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
>> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
>> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
>> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
>> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
>> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
>> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
>> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
>> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>>
>
> Since you're depressed you probably have a hard time doing anything.
>
> So the easiest way to make "extra" money is to do even less.
>
> Do less by cutting back on your lifestyle until you are living within
> your means. That is the surest way to get "extra" money. You don't
> have to compete for the job and no one can fire you.
>
> Once your lifestyle stabilizes and matches your income, you will find
> yourself less stressed.  Then you can have something to look forward
> to by considering what else you can do to improve your life without
> being under pressure to pay your bills.

why is he looking to earn more, when the clear solution is to spend less?
aka, eliminate or reduce the goods and services that are sending you all 
these "bills".  If he doesn't go anywhere, what more than food, shelter 
and utilities can he be spending on?

"barbie gee"  wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0711031509100.32166@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz...
>
>
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Don K wrote:
>
> >  wrote in message
> > news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> >> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> >> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> >> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you
upto
> >> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the
net.
> >> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs
which
> >> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them
out.
> >> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> >> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> >> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> >> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
> >>
> >
> > Since you're depressed you probably have a hard time doing anything.
> >
> > So the easiest way to make "extra" money is to do even less.
> >
> > Do less by cutting back on your lifestyle until you are living
within
> > your means. That is the surest way to get "extra" money. You don't
> > have to compete for the job and no one can fire you.
> >
> > Once your lifestyle stabilizes and matches your income, you will
find
> > yourself less stressed.  Then you can have something to look forward
> > to by considering what else you can do to improve your life without
> > being under pressure to pay your bills.
>
> why is he looking to earn more, when the clear solution is to spend
less?
> aka, eliminate or reduce the goods and services that are sending you
all
> these "bills".  If he doesn't go anywhere, what more than food,
shelter
> and utilities can he be spending on?


curvy women

On 3 Nov, 20:14, "%"  wrote:
> "barbie gee"  wrote in message
>
> news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0711031509100.32166@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Don K wrote:
>
> > >  wrote in message
> > >news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > >> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> > >> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> > >> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> > >> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you
> upto
> > >> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the
> net.
> > >> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs
> which
> > >> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them
> out.
> > >> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> > >> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> > >> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> > >> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> > > Since you're depressed you probably have a hard time doing anything.
>
> > > So the easiest way to make "extra" money is to do even less.
>
> > > Do less by cutting back on your lifestyle until you are living
> within
> > > your means. That is the surest way to get "extra" money. You don't
> > > have to compete for the job and no one can fire you.
>
> > > Once your lifestyle stabilizes and matches your income, you will
> find
> > > yourself less stressed.  Then you can have something to look forward
> > > to by considering what else you can do to improve your life without
> > > being under pressure to pay your bills.
>
> > why is he looking to earn more, when the clear solution is to spend
> less?
> > aka, eliminate or reduce the goods and services that are sending you
> all
> > these "bills".  If he doesn't go anywhere, what more than food,
> shelter
> > and utilities can he be spending on?
>
> curvy women- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give me
free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich people in
my area and asking them advice on making money!
That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my psychaiatrist
is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a given anti-
depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if it's not
working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given antidepressant
should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not it's working,and then
changed to a different one. However my doctor refuses to change to a
different antidepressant no matter what. This man must be responsible
for hundreds of poor people leading miserable lifes. But I am worried
or reporting him to the NHS, because he's such a smooth talker,and so
intelligent that I'm sure he'd talk himself out of any investigation
by NHS auditors.
Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England, I
am resgined to my fate.
I didn't consider the idea that not all medical drug trials will lead
to cancer and other serious effects on my body. So, I am reconsdering
going for them,but there's still a nagging thought in the back of my
mind that these pharmaceuticals being tested are serious chemicals
with a real risk of causing damage to my body,and that fact is keeping
me from signing up with a company doing the trials in the UK.
I have also considered a company i saw on the web that lets you work
as an extra on tv. But am too embarrasaed by the fact that my
relatives will see me on tv reduced to working as an extra.
If anyone else has any good ways of making easy money please let me
know.
Bye friends.

On 3 Nov, 20:40, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 20:14, "%"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "barbie gee"  wrote in message
>
> >news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0711031509100.32166@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz...
>
> > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Don K wrote:
>
> > > >  wrote in message
> > > >news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> > > >> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> > > >> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> > > >> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you
> > upto
> > > >> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the
> > net.
> > > >> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs
> > which
> > > >> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them
> > out.
> > > >> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> > > >> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> > > >> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> > > >> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> > > > Since you're depressed you probably have a hard time doing anything.
>
> > > > So the easiest way to make "extra" money is to do even less.
>
> > > > Do less by cutting back on your lifestyle until you are living
> > within
> > > > your means. That is the surest way to get "extra" money. You don't
> > > > have to compete for the job and no one can fire you.
>
> > > > Once your lifestyle stabilizes and matches your income, you will
> > find
> > > > yourself less stressed.  Then you can have something to look forward
> > > > to by considering what else you can do to improve your life without
> > > > being under pressure to pay your bills.
>
> > > why is he looking to earn more, when the clear solution is to spend
> > less?
> > > aka, eliminate or reduce the goods and services that are sending you
> > all
> > > these "bills".  If he doesn't go anywhere, what more than food,
> > shelter
> > > and utilities can he be spending on?
>
> > curvy women- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give me
> free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich people in
> my area and asking them advice on making money!
> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
> male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my psychaiatrist
> is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a given anti-
> depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if it's not
> working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given antidepressant
> should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not it's working,and then
> changed to a different one. However my doctor refuses to change to a
> different antidepressant no matter what. This man must be responsible
> for hundreds of poor people leading miserable lifes. But I am worried
> or reporting him to the NHS, because he's such a smooth talker,and so
> intelligent that I'm sure he'd talk himself out of any investigation
> by NHS auditors.
> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England, I
> am resgined to my fate.
> I didn't consider the idea that not all medical drug trials will lead
> to cancer and other serious effects on my body. So, I am reconsdering
> going for them,but there's still a nagging thought in the back of my
> mind that these pharmaceuticals being tested are serious chemicals
> with a real risk of causing damage to my body,and that fact is keeping
> me from signing up with a company doing the trials in the UK.
> I have also considered a company i saw on the web that lets you work
> as an extra on tv. But am too embarrasaed by the fact that my
> relatives will see me on tv reduced to working as an extra.
> If anyone else has any good ways of making easy money please let me
> know.
> Bye friends.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Ummmm....hate to point this out.
But any drugs you are prescribed are serious chemicals with a real
risk of causing damage to your body.
Medical trials usually involve animals, then groups of humans (often
more than one set of tests) before being released. But then have a
wide range of effects that mean what you are given could be really bad
for you, but great for someone else.
I had prozac for a month, lost well over a stone. Throwing up will do
that to me. Yet it helps other people with things other than weight
loss.  :)


No guarantees with any drug that the long term effects on you will be
exactly as the medical profession would want. But can be better than
no drugs.

Just be aware that if you do get extra income, it may affect your
benefits by the same amount.

Martin  <><

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give me
> free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich people in
> my area and asking them advice on making money!
> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
> male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my psychaiatrist
> is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a given anti-
> depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if it's not
> working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given antidepressant
> should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not it's working,and then
> changed to a different one. However my doctor refuses to change to a
> different antidepressant no matter what. This man must be responsible
> for hundreds of poor people leading miserable lifes. But I am worried
> or reporting him to the NHS, because he's such a smooth talker,and so
> intelligent that I'm sure he'd talk himself out of any investigation
> by NHS auditors.
> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England, I
> am resgined to my fate.

Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general 
practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a 
psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with him as 
well?

On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give me
> > free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich people in
> > my area and asking them advice on making money!
> > That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
> > male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
> > My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my psychaiatrist
> > is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a given anti-
> > depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if it's not
> > working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given antidepressant
> > should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not it's working,and then
> > changed to a different one. However my doctor refuses to change to a
> > different antidepressant no matter what. This man must be responsible
> > for hundreds of poor people leading miserable lifes. But I am worried
> > or reporting him to the NHS, because he's such a smooth talker,and so
> > intelligent that I'm sure he'd talk himself out of any investigation
> > by NHS auditors.
> > Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England, I
> > am resgined to my fate.
>
> Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
> practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
> psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with him as
> well?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he can
prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your GP can
change you to a different set of antidepressant pills. However,I
haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my Psychiatrists
prescription.
If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone days
people who were ill would often state they felt better after having
blood removed.

zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give
>>> me free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich
>>> people in my area and asking them advice on making money!
>>> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
>>> male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
>>> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my
>>> psychaiatrist is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a
>>> given anti- depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if
>>> it's not working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given
>>> antidepressant should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not
>>> it's working,and then changed to a different one. However my doctor
>>> refuses to change to a different antidepressant no matter what.
>>> This man must be responsible for hundreds of poor people leading
>>> miserable lifes. But I am worried or reporting him to the NHS,
>>> because he's such a smooth talker,and so intelligent that I'm sure
>>> he'd talk himself out of any investigation by NHS auditors.
>>> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England,
>>> I am resgined to my fate.
>>
>> Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
>> practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
>> psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with
>> him as well?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he can
> prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your GP can
> change you to a different set of antidepressant pills. However,I
> haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my Psychiatrists
> prescription.
> If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
> donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone days
> people who were ill would often state they felt better after having
> blood removed.

That was just the placebo effect.

Plenty claimed to feel better after taking snake oil and homeopathic
'remedys' which cant possibly have had any active ingredients too.

On 3 Nov, 23:40, "Rod Speed"  wrote:
> zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
> >> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give
> >>> me free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich
> >>> people in my area and asking them advice on making money!
> >>> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
> >>> male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
> >>> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my
> >>> psychaiatrist is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a
> >>> given anti- depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if
> >>> it's not working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given
> >>> antidepressant should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not
> >>> it's working,and then changed to a different one. However my doctor
> >>> refuses to change to a different antidepressant no matter what.
> >>> This man must be responsible for hundreds of poor people leading
> >>> miserable lifes. But I am worried or reporting him to the NHS,
> >>> because he's such a smooth talker,and so intelligent that I'm sure
> >>> he'd talk himself out of any investigation by NHS auditors.
> >>> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England,
> >>> I am resgined to my fate.
>
> >> Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
> >> practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
> >> psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with
> >> him as well?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he can
> > prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your GP can
> > change you to a different set of antidepressant pills. However,I
> > haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my Psychiatrists
> > prescription.
> > If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
> > donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone days
> > people who were ill would often state they felt better after having
> > blood removed.
>
> That was just the placebo effect.
>
> Plenty claimed to feel better after taking snake oil and homeopathic
> 'remedys' which cant possibly have had any active ingredients too.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, it could have been the placebo effect, since I read in a science
mag a few weeks ago that the placebo effect was very powerful,and that
the placebo effect lighted up the brain when an MRI scan was done
after ppl were given dummy sugar placebo pills.
Back to the topic of making quick money, I just had the idea of going
to one of those sperm donation places. But for a number of reasons I'm
reluctant to do so. Firstly I am in need of money badly right now, but
the idea of that meaning me fathering a child just to get a few money
notes,is not really viable. Why should a child be bought into the
world,just so that I can pay off my debts?
Also, in the future there might be retrospective legislation making it
possible for children conceived via sperm donation to track down their
fathers,and even get financial support from them. This also puts me
off becoming a sperm donator.

On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:40:03 +1100, "Rod Speed"
 wrote:

>zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give
>>>> me free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich
>>>> people in my area and asking them advice on making money!
>>>> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
>>>> male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
>>>> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my
>>>> psychaiatrist is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a
>>>> given anti- depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if
>>>> it's not working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given
>>>> antidepressant should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not
>>>> it's working,and then changed to a different one. However my doctor
>>>> refuses to change to a different antidepressant no matter what.
>>>> This man must be responsible for hundreds of poor people leading
>>>> miserable lifes. But I am worried or reporting him to the NHS,
>>>> because he's such a smooth talker,and so intelligent that I'm sure
>>>> he'd talk himself out of any investigation by NHS auditors.
>>>> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England,
>>>> I am resgined to my fate.
>>>
>>> Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
>>> practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
>>> psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with
>>> him as well?- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he can
>> prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your GP can
>> change you to a different set of antidepressant pills. However,I
>> haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my Psychiatrists
>> prescription.
>> If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
>> donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone days
>> people who were ill would often state they felt better after having
>> blood removed.
>
>That was just the placebo effect.
>
>Plenty claimed to feel better after taking snake oil and homeopathic
>'remedys' which cant possibly have had any active ingredients too. 
>


Unless the person has polycythemia.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000589.htm#Treatment

zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 23:40, "Rod Speed"  wrote:
>> zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to
>>>>> give me free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich
>>>>> people in my area and asking them advice on making money!
>>>>> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as
>>>>> a male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
>>>>> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my
>>>>> psychaiatrist is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a
>>>>> given anti- depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if
>>>>> it's not working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given
>>>>> antidepressant should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not
>>>>> it's working,and then changed to a different one. However my
>>>>> doctor refuses to change to a different antidepressant no matter
>>>>> what. This man must be responsible for hundreds of poor people
>>>>> leading miserable lifes. But I am worried or reporting him to the
>>>>> NHS, because he's such a smooth talker,and so intelligent that
>>>>> I'm sure he'd talk himself out of any investigation by NHS
>>>>> auditors.
>>>>> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of
>>>>> birmingham,England, I am resgined to my fate.
>>
>>>> Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
>>>> practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
>>>> psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with
>>>> him as well?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>> No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he
>>> can prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your
>>> GP can change you to a different set of antidepressant pills.
>>> However,I haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my
>>> Psychiatrists prescription.
>>> If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
>>> donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone
>>> days people who were ill would often state they felt better after
>>> having blood removed.
>>
>> That was just the placebo effect.
>>
>> Plenty claimed to feel better after taking snake oil and homeopathic
>> 'remedys' which cant possibly have had any active ingredients too.-

> Yes, it could have been the placebo effect, since I read in a science
> mag a few weeks ago that the placebo effect was very powerful,
> and that the placebo effect lighted up the brain when an MRI scan
> was done after ppl were given dummy sugar placebo pills.

> Back to the topic of making quick money, I just had the idea of going
> to one of those sperm donation places. But for a number of reasons
> I'm reluctant to do so. Firstly I am in need of money badly right now,
> but the idea of that meaning me fathering a child just to get a few
> money notes,is not really viable. Why should a child be bought
> into the world,just so that I can pay off my debts?

And when your problem could well have a genetic component too.

> Also, in the future there might be retrospective legislation
> making it possible for children conceived via sperm donation
> to track down their fathers,and even get financial support
> from them. This also puts me off becoming a sperm donator.

Prostitution has always been one quick money route some have chosen to go.

Charles  wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Nov 2007 10:40:03 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>  wrote:
>
>> zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to
>>>>> give me free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich
>>>>> people in my area and asking them advice on making money!
>>>>> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as
>>>>> a male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
>>>>> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my
>>>>> psychaiatrist is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a
>>>>> given anti- depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if
>>>>> it's not working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given
>>>>> antidepressant should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not
>>>>> it's working,and then changed to a different one. However my
>>>>> doctor refuses to change to a different antidepressant no matter
>>>>> what. This man must be responsible for hundreds of poor people
>>>>> leading miserable lifes. But I am worried or reporting him to the
>>>>> NHS, because he's such a smooth talker,and so intelligent that
>>>>> I'm sure he'd talk himself out of any investigation by NHS
>>>>> auditors.
>>>>> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of
>>>>> birmingham,England, I am resgined to my fate.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
>>>> practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
>>>> psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with
>>>> him as well?- Hide quoted text -
>>>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>
>>> No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he
>>> can prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your
>>> GP can change you to a different set of antidepressant pills.
>>> However,I haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my
>>> Psychiatrists prescription.
>>> If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
>>> donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone
>>> days people who were ill would often state they felt better after
>>> having blood removed.
>>
>> That was just the placebo effect.
>>
>> Plenty claimed to feel better after taking snake oil and homeopathic
>> 'remedys' which cant possibly have had any active ingredients too.

> Unless the person has polycythemia.

> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000589.htm#Treatment

That wouldnt necessarily make them feel better after the donation.

LETS DO THE CROSSPOST AGAIN

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 16:51:41 -0700, zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:

>Back to the topic of making quick money,


I had the telly on and somehow this topic came up.  House Sitter.
People who go on extended holidays need someone to do simple chores in
their empty house -  such as watering the house plants, feed the pets,
walk the dogs, clear the mailbox, mow the lawn or clear the snow,
phone forwarding,  have someone to phone to to ask about the empty
house, etc.  I don't know what the pay rate is though.  I am very
lucky to have a friendly and helpful neighbor who waters my house
plants, no pets, clear the mail and clear the snow (gas snow thrower).

On your shrink's pill prescription one of the characteristics of CFS
is that all medications, except antibiotics, are ineffective.   The
first dose works.  The body quickly adapts and the rest of the
prescription is as good as useless.  My personal doc, and he is a good
friend, doesn't believe there is even such a thing as CFS in the first
place.  Your shrink is probably one of those.  If he can't figure out
what makes you sick you are not sick.

zaman_2756@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> I've considered completing online surveys,but they pay a very small
> amount per completed survey. So,once again,if anyone knows of any ways
> of getting some extra money I'd be interested in hearing it.
> Bye friends.


I suspect there'd be something  "wrong" with any money-making suggestions.
Obviously,*work* is out, after all,  you're severely depressed.

Seems to me, even if you did get financially healthy,
you'd still be left with the problem of being severely depressed and 
unable to work.
So I guess you're stuck.


I kinda think you're enjoying the perks of being "disabled".
People tend to treat you gently, expect very little, hold you less 
accountable,.......
after all, you're under psychiatric care......

LETS DO THE CROSS POST AGAIN

On Nov 3, 1:25 pm, Logan Shaw  wrote:
> zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> > on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> > into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> > I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> > 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> > The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> > can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
>
> Unless these things work differently in the UK than they do in the US,
> you've ruled them out before learning enough about them.
>
> In the US, medical trials do sometimes involve testing an experimental
> drug, but there are also other types.  For example, there are trials
> where they test the effectiveness or dosage of an existing (and known
> to be safe) drug for a new purpose.  As a college student, I needed to
> have my wisdom teeth removed and learned about a study where they would
> remove the teeth (that I needed removed anyway) and test the
> effectiveness of a certain dosage of a pain medication.  It was a drug
> that had already got government approval; they just wanted to do
> research to know what dosage to recommend for wisdom tooth extraction.
>
> Having said that, I doubt if medical studies are going to be a reliable,
> steady income source.  They might help you knock out some of the debt,
> but they aren't a long-term or even a medium-term solution.  There just
> aren't going to be that many of them that you qualify for and that are
> low-risk.
>
> > I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> > depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
>
> It doesn't seem like a great way to make a lot of money.  But anything
> you do is going to require you to exert some energy, and probably get
> out of the house, sometimes when you aren't feeling like it.
>
> Speaking of energy, I cannot recommend physical exercise enough.  I
> didn't believe it myself, actually, until I tried it, but in the last
> few years, I have started exercising regularly for the first time in
> my life, and I've learned that it makes a big difference in your
> energy level.  It doesn't magically solve all your problems, but it
> can sometimes eliminate that "all I really want to do right now is
> lie on the couch for a bit" feeling (that you might have all day
> long sometimes, at least I do) and replace it with a feeling of
> having a nice, decent amount of energy physically.
>
> Exercise may not change your mental state, but having your physical
> energy level increased is still worthwhile.  Then again, it can even
> affect your mental state.  Especially heavy-duty cardio (like running
> 5 miles) can do that.  You've heard of a "runner's high", probably,
> and that does exist, but exercise can also sometimes allow a sort of
> emotional release where you can let go of your stress and other
> negative stuff that's floating around in your head and not doing
> you any good.

My experience disagrees with you.  I tried exercise - walking,
running, cycling, badminton - nothing gave me more energy.  Yoga
helped relax me.  It was not until last year when I was a lot better
that I got anything like a good feeling from exercise.  I started
working out at a gym and I was amazed at how good it made me feel.
For the clinically depressed, I'd say, exercise in moderation and get
as much relaxation as you can.
>
> > So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> > making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> Odd jobs?  It would depend on what kind of skills you have.  I don't
> know what the laws are in England, but here in the US, you can often
> work small, one-time jobs for individuals on a cash-only basis and
> nobody is going crack down on that make such people report that income
> to the government.  I'm talking about helping people move stuff, paint
> their house, or whatever.  It's not glamorous, but I guess it would
> work, and it would have the advantage that you wouldn't need to commit
> to anything if your mental state isn't conducive to being bound to show
> up M-F at the same time, week after week.
>
> Of course, there are many ways to make money.  If you're a computer
> programmer, you can write some shareware software and post that on
> the internet and make a trickle of income off of that.  It just depends
> on what you're good at, what resources you have available to you, and
> what ideas you have.
>
>    - Logan

On Nov 3, 3:40 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 20:14, "%"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "barbie gee"  wrote in message
>
> >news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0711031509100.32166@sghcrg.sghcrg.pbz...
>
> > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Don K wrote:
>
> > > >  wrote in message
> > > >news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> > > >> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> > > >> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> > > >> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you
> > upto
> > > >> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the
> > net.
> > > >> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs
> > which
> > > >> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them
> > out.
> > > >> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> > > >> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> > > >> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> > > >> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> > > > Since you're depressed you probably have a hard time doing anything.
>
> > > > So the easiest way to make "extra" money is to do even less.
>
> > > > Do less by cutting back on your lifestyle until you are living
> > within
> > > > your means. That is the surest way to get "extra" money. You don't
> > > > have to compete for the job and no one can fire you.
>
> > > > Once your lifestyle stabilizes and matches your income, you will
> > find
> > > > yourself less stressed.  Then you can have something to look forward
> > > > to by considering what else you can do to improve your life without
> > > > being under pressure to pay your bills.
>
> > > why is he looking to earn more, when the clear solution is to spend
> > less?
> > > aka, eliminate or reduce the goods and services that are sending you
> > all
> > > these "bills".  If he doesn't go anywhere, what more than food,
> > shelter
> > > and utilities can he be spending on?
>
> > curvy women- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give me
> free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich people in
> my area and asking them advice on making money!
> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
> male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my psychaiatrist
> is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a given anti-
> depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if it's not
> working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given antidepressant
> should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not it's working,and then
> changed to a different one. However my doctor refuses to change to a
> different antidepressant no matter what.

I don't think 6 weeks is long enough.  In any case,
The second method is not to change medication, but to up the dose.
Once the dose is maximized, and you're still not getting benefit from
it, that is the time to consider changing meds.
Dr. Michelle

This man must be responsible
> for hundreds of poor people leading miserable lifes. But I am worried
> or reporting him to the NHS, because he's such a smooth talker,and so
> intelligent that I'm sure he'd talk himself out of any investigation
> by NHS auditors.
> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England, I
> am resgined to my fate.

Try your GP.


> I didn't consider the idea that not all medical drug trials will lead
> to cancer and other serious effects on my body. So, I am reconsdering
> going for them,but there's still a nagging thought in the back of my
> mind that these pharmaceuticals being tested are serious chemicals
> with a real risk of causing damage to my body,and that fact is keeping
> me from signing up with a company doing the trials in the UK.
> I have also considered a company i saw on the web that lets you work
> as an extra on tv. But am too embarrasaed by the fact that my
> relatives will see me on tv reduced to working as an extra.
> If anyone else has any good ways of making easy money please let me
> know.
> Bye friends.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

what

On Nov 3, 6:08 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give me
> > > free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich people in
> > > my area and asking them advice on making money!
> > > That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
> > > male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
> > > My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my psychaiatrist
> > > is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a given anti-
> > > depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if it's not
> > > working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given antidepressant
> > > should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not it's working,and then
> > > changed to a different one. However my doctor refuses to change to a
> > > different antidepressant no matter what. This man must be responsible
> > > for hundreds of poor people leading miserable lifes. But I am worried
> > > or reporting him to the NHS, because he's such a smooth talker,and so
> > > intelligent that I'm sure he'd talk himself out of any investigation
> > > by NHS auditors.
> > > Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England, I
> > > am resgined to my fate.
>
> > Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
> > practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
> > psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with him as
> > well?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he can
> prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your GP can
> change you to a different set of antidepressant pills. However,I
> haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my Psychiatrists
> prescription.
> If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
> donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone days
> people who were ill would often state they felt better after having
> blood removed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I don't know why they stopped the "drill a hole through the top of
your head" technique.  That was supposed to relieve all kinds of
things.  As for blood-letting - who knows?  I've never lost enough
blood to try it out.  Are you sick enough for ECT?  Again, I've not
tried it but it works for some people.

On Nov 3, 6:51 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 23:40, "Rod Speed"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give
> > >>> me free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich
> > >>> people in my area and asking them advice on making money!
> > >>> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
> > >>> male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
> > >>> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my
> > >>> psychaiatrist is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a
> > >>> given anti- depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if
> > >>> it's not working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given
> > >>> antidepressant should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not
> > >>> it's working,and then changed to a different one. However my doctor
> > >>> refuses to change to a different antidepressant no matter what.
> > >>> This man must be responsible for hundreds of poor people leading
> > >>> miserable lifes. But I am worried or reporting him to the NHS,
> > >>> because he's such a smooth talker,and so intelligent that I'm sure
> > >>> he'd talk himself out of any investigation by NHS auditors.
> > >>> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England,
> > >>> I am resgined to my fate.
>
> > >> Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
> > >> practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
> > >> psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with
> > >> him as well?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he can
> > > prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your GP can
> > > change you to a different set of antidepressant pills. However,I
> > > haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my Psychiatrists
> > > prescription.
> > > If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
> > > donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone days
> > > people who were ill would often state they felt better after having
> > > blood removed.
>
> > That was just the placebo effect.
>
> > Plenty claimed to feel better after taking snake oil and homeopathic
> > 'remedys' which cant possibly have had any active ingredients too.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yes, it could have been the placebo effect, since I read in a science
> mag a few weeks ago that the placebo effect was very powerful,and that
> the placebo effect lighted up the brain when an MRI scan was done
> after ppl were given dummy sugar placebo pills.
> Back to the topic of making quick money, I just had the idea of going
> to one of those sperm donation places. But for a number of reasons I'm
> reluctant to do so. Firstly I am in need of money badly right now, but
> the idea of that meaning me fathering a child just to get a few money
> notes,is not really viable. Why should a child be bought into the
> world,just so that I can pay off my debts?
> Also, in the future there might be retrospective legislation making it
> possible for children conceived via sperm donation to track down their
> fathers,and even get financial support from them. This also puts me
> off becoming a sperm donator.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Are you serious?
You are coming up with all these ridiculous ways of avoiding getting a
job.  I know, I've been there.  I've considered everything right down
to prostitution.  The answer is to get a job.  I know.  I've been
there.

On Nov 3, 3:11 pm, barbie gee  wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Don K wrote:
> >  wrote in message
> >news:1194041419.873824.7490@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> >> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> >> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> >> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> >> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> >> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> >> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> >> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> >> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> >> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> >> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).
>
> > Since you're depressed you probably have a hard time doing anything.
>
> > So the easiest way to make "extra" money is to do even less.
>
> > Do less by cutting back on your lifestyle until you are living within
> > your means. That is the surest way to get "extra" money. You don't
> > have to compete for the job and no one can fire you.
>
> > Once your lifestyle stabilizes and matches your income, you will find
> > yourself less stressed.  Then you can have something to look forward
> > to by considering what else you can do to improve your life without
> > being under pressure to pay your bills.
>
> why is he looking to earn more, when the clear solution is to spend less?
> aka, eliminate or reduce the goods and services that are sending you all
> these "bills".  If he doesn't go anywhere, what more than food, shelter
> and utilities can he be spending on?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But how would he be able to live without his magic mushrooms and phone
sex?  come on!  The guy needs SOME pleasure in life!! ;)

On 3 Nov, 23:51, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 23:40, "Rod Speed"  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On 3 Nov, 21:39, barbie gee  wrote:
> > >> On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >>> I can't belive so many people have been kind hearted enough to give
> > >>> me free advice. I particularly liked the tip of going to rich
> > >>> people in my area and asking them advice on making money!
> > >>> That gave me the thought,if I was good looking enough,wqorking as a
> > >>> male escort would be a nice,pleasurable way of making money.
> > >>> My problem is not that I'm work shy or lazy,but that my
> > >>> psychaiatrist is uttelry incompetent. I mean,once he starts a a
> > >>> given anti- depressant,he refuses to change to another one,even if
> > >>> it's not working. Most guidelines on the net say that a given
> > >>> antidepressant should be given 6 weeks to assess whether or not
> > >>> it's working,and then changed to a different one. However my doctor
> > >>> refuses to change to a different antidepressant no matter what.
> > >>> This man must be responsible for hundreds of poor people leading
> > >>> miserable lifes. But I am worried or reporting him to the NHS,
> > >>> because he's such a smooth talker,and so intelligent that I'm sure
> > >>> he'd talk himself out of any investigation by NHS auditors.
> > >>> Since, he's the only psychiatrist in my area of birmingham,England,
> > >>> I am resgined to my fate.
>
> > >> Not sure how the NHS system works, but could you just have general
> > >> practitioner or internist prescribe you mood meds?  Must it be a
> > >> psychiatrist?  Or are you also engaged in heavy "talk therapy" with
> > >> him as well?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he can
> > > prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your GP can
> > > change you to a different set of antidepressant pills. However,I
> > > haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my Psychiatrists
> > > prescription.
> > > If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
> > > donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone days
> > > people who were ill would often state they felt better after having
> > > blood removed.
>
> > That was just the placebo effect.
>
> > Plenty claimed to feel better after taking snake oil and homeopathic
> > 'remedys' which cant possibly have had any active ingredients too.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Yes, it could have been the placebo effect, since I read in a science
> mag a few weeks ago that the placebo effect was very powerful,and that
> the placebo effect lighted up the brain when an MRI scan was done
> after ppl were given dummy sugar placebo pills.
> Back to the topic of making quick money, I just had the idea of going
> to one of those sperm donation places. But for a number of reasons I'm
> reluctant to do so. Firstly I am in need of money badly right now, but
> the idea of that meaning me fathering a child just to get a few money
> notes,is not really viable. Why should a child be bought into the
> world,just so that I can pay off my debts?
> Also, in the future there might be retrospective legislation making it
> possible for children conceived via sperm donation to track down their
> fathers,and even get financial support from them. This also puts me
> off becoming a sperm donator.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Its either already law or will soon be - the legislation allowing kids
to track down sperm donor fathers.
If done officially, at the moment there is still no child support to
pay.
And those using a sperm bank to get pregnant will do so, regardless of
your sperm being there or not.

Martin  <><

On 4 Nov, 05:36, Jon v Leipzig  wrote:
> zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > I've considered completing online surveys,but they pay a very small
> > amount per completed survey. So,once again,if anyone knows of any ways
> > of getting some extra money I'd be interested in hearing it.
> > Bye friends.
>
> I suspect there'd be something  "wrong" with any money-making suggestions.
> Obviously,*work* is out, after all,  you're severely depressed.
>
> Seems to me, even if you did get financially healthy,
> you'd still be left with the problem of being severely depressed and
> unable to work.
> So I guess you're stuck.
>
> I kinda think you're enjoying the perks of being "disabled".
> People tend to treat you gently, expect very little, hold you less
> accountable,.......
> after all, you're under psychiatric care......

There are 'perks' to being disabled?
Damn, must have missed them.

Martin  <><

Michelle la Belle wrote:
> On Nov 3, 6:08 pm, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:

>> No,here in the Uk, once you're referred to a psychiatrist,only he can
>> prescribe pills. But I do recall scomeone telling me that your GP can
>> change you to a different set of antidepressant pills. However,I
>> haven't checked if my GP is willing to overide my Psychiatrists
>> prescription.
>> If only the blood donation service gave you financial rewards for
>> donating blood! Also, i remeber reading somewhere that in bygone days
>> people who were ill would often state they felt better after having
>> blood removed.- Hide quoted text -
>>
> 
> I don't know why they stopped the "drill a hole through the top of
> your head" technique.  That was supposed to relieve all kinds of
> things.  
> 

Too messy.
Drugs "drill" thru the blood-brain barrier, accomplish the same thing.

The "scienc" behind both methods is about the same.

On 2 Nov, 22:10, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
> on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
> into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
> I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
> 500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
> The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
> can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
> I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
> depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
> So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
> making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

run up as much debt as you can(apply for zillions of credit/store
cards)

then declare yourself bankrup.

easy peasy,

lemon squeezy.

On 3 Nov, 23:51, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On 3 Nov, 23:40, "Rod Speed"  wrote:
>