How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I was 
given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this can't be 
right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody council tax 
is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to live on 
£3068 per year.

Kevin

On 2 Nov, 00:43, "Zen83237"  wrote:
> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I was
> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this can't be
> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody council tax
> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to live on
> £3068 per year.
>
> Kevin

Hmmm...£59 sounds right for you.
For the kids, someone told me its child tax credit these days plus
child benefit.
Council tax you shouldn't be paying anyway - council tax benefit
should pay that. Apply for it if no application made yet.

Umm...whats this £3 per day less?

Martin  <><

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:43:44 +0000, Zen83237 wrote:

> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I
> was given just 59 per week, less that 3 per day each. Surely this can't
> be right. I am expected to live on less that 3 per day. My bloody
> council tax is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be
> expected to live on 3068 per year.
> 
> Kevin

See:
http://www.entitledto.co.uk/

Zen83237 wrote:
> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I was 
> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this can't be 
> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody council tax 
> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to live on 
> £3068 per year.
> 
> Kevin 
> 

Income Support is only paid for adults - you have to get child tax 
credits for what used to be the part of IS that was paid for children.

You also need to claim Council Tax Benefit.


-- 
Robbie

"Zen83237"  wrote in message
news:472a72c9$0$21095$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get.
I was
> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this
can't be
> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody
council tax
> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to
live on
> £3068 per year.

IS is just the tip of the iceberg for single parents' benefits. IS is
now just for support of the adult(s).

You need to claim child tax credit (and child benefit) for the
children (you'll get about £110 a week in CTC plus child benefit).

You also should be able to get council tax benefit to pay your council
tax in full, unless your property is band F or above.

Plus housing benefit to pay your rent in full or ISMI to pay your
mortgage interest, subject to limits.

--
Andy

wrote in message 
news:1193990498.527949.196820@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On 2 Nov, 00:43, "Zen83237"  wrote:
> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I was
> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this can't be
> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody council 
> tax
> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to live on
> £3068 per year.
>
> Kevin

Hmmm...£59 sounds right for you.
For the kids, someone told me its child tax credit these days plus
child benefit.
Council tax you shouldn't be paying anyway - council tax benefit
should pay that. Apply for it if no application made yet.

Umm...whats this £3 per day less?

Martin  <><
 But HMRC wont pay any tax credits so how do I put a sufficiently large 
rocket up their backsides to pay some credits. So what options are their for 
help, bloody useless labour mp is no help. I don't think that you can appeal 
non payment of tax credits so what options are open if they wont pay up. 
They refused to consider my claim because get this, I don't have a child 
benefit number, it is being transferred from the wife who left 4 weeks 
before and I can't give them the name of my employer. That would be because 
I am unemployed you useless dickheads.
So I don't get IS for the kids, I get tax credits, but I don't get tax 
credits because I am unemployed. What has this f**king country come to.

Kevin

Zen83237 wrote:
>  wrote in message 
> news:1193990498.527949.196820@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On 2 Nov, 00:43, "Zen83237"  wrote:
>> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I was
>> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this can't be
>> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody council 
>> tax
>> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to live on
>> £3068 per year.
>>
>> Kevin
> 
> Hmmm...£59 sounds right for you.
> For the kids, someone told me its child tax credit these days plus
> child benefit.
> Council tax you shouldn't be paying anyway - council tax benefit
> should pay that. Apply for it if no application made yet.
> 
> Umm...whats this £3 per day less?
> 
> Martin  <><
>  But HMRC wont pay any tax credits so how do I put a sufficiently large 
> rocket up their backsides to pay some credits. So what options are their for 
> help, bloody useless labour mp is no help. I don't think that you can appeal 
> non payment of tax credits so what options are open if they wont pay up. 
> They refused to consider my claim because get this, I don't have a child 
> benefit number, it is being transferred from the wife who left 4 weeks 
> before and I can't give them the name of my employer. That would be because 
> I am unemployed you useless dickheads.
> So I don't get IS for the kids, I get tax credits, but I don't get tax 
> credits because I am unemployed. What has this f**king country come to.
> 
> Kevin 
> 
> 

Your problem lies with your ex-wife - you need to get child benefit for 
the kids - you've been told that before. Until then she will get the 
Child tax credits.

Why aren't you getting Child benefit? And can you answer without 
biting... some of us are trying to help with our answers.

I can understand your frustration but you don't help yourself by biting 
at anyone and everyone - the answer lies closer to home - your wife.

-- 
Robbie

"Robbie"  wrote in message 
news:5p6uhfFprv4gU1@mid.individual.net...
> Zen83237 wrote:
>>  wrote in message 
>> news:1193990498.527949.196820@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> On 2 Nov, 00:43, "Zen83237"  wrote:
>>> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I 
>>> was
>>> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this can't be
>>> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody council 
>>> tax
>>> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to live on
>>> £3068 per year.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>
>> Hmmm...£59 sounds right for you.
>> For the kids, someone told me its child tax credit these days plus
>> child benefit.
>> Council tax you shouldn't be paying anyway - council tax benefit
>> should pay that. Apply for it if no application made yet.
>>
>> Umm...whats this £3 per day less?
>>
>> Martin  <><
>>  But HMRC wont pay any tax credits so how do I put a sufficiently large 
>> rocket up their backsides to pay some credits. So what options are their 
>> for help, bloody useless labour mp is no help. I don't think that you can 
>> appeal non payment of tax credits so what options are open if they wont 
>> pay up. They refused to consider my claim because get this, I don't have 
>> a child benefit number, it is being transferred from the wife who left 4 
>> weeks before and I can't give them the name of my employer. That would be 
>> because I am unemployed you useless dickheads.
>> So I don't get IS for the kids, I get tax credits, but I don't get tax 
>> credits because I am unemployed. What has this f**king country come to.
>>
>> Kevin
>
> Your problem lies with your ex-wife - you need to get child benefit for 
> the kids - you've been told that before. Until then she will get the Child 
> tax credits.
>
> Why aren't you getting Child benefit? And can you answer without biting... 
> some of us are trying to help with our answers.
>
> I can understand your frustration but you don't help yourself by biting at 
> anyone and everyone - the answer lies closer to home - your wife.
>
> -- 
> Robbie

You have the wrong end of the stick. I got the child tax credits anyway but 
HMRC closed to claim as soon as I became a single parent and now the new 
claim has been stopped because I don't have a child benefit number, guess 
who is sitting on that, you've guessed, HMRC and the fact that I am 
unemployed.
Why am I not getting child benefit, well I am now just took HMRC 2 months to 
extract their finger from their backside.
In the mean time I get no benefit but answer me this. How do Polish workers 
get tax credits and asylem seekers get benefit and I can't.
There is still something odd here.
When I signed on the Job Centre asked if I had dependents and they pushed me 
into the IS route rather than the JSA route but now I can't get benefit for 
the kids and to boot I now have the f**ing CSA harassing me.
I am not biting at everyone but I don't see how the Government can escape 
paying benefit because I am out of work or tax credits and it is all down to 
my wife. Non of this is her fault, she just happened to walk out 3 weeks 
before I became unemployed.
Do we now really live in a society where somebody can't get benefit for 
children if they don't get child benefit. I come back to my question about 
benfits for asylum seekers, how do they get beneifit for kids.
I am just trying to find out how much I am entitled to so that I can put in 
the correct appeal.

Kevin

Zen83237 wrote:
> "Robbie"  wrote in message 
> news:5p6uhfFprv4gU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Zen83237 wrote:
>>>  wrote in message 
>>> news:1193990498.527949.196820@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> On 2 Nov, 00:43, "Zen83237"  wrote:
>>>> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I 
>>>> was
>>>> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this can't be
>>>> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody council 
>>>> tax
>>>> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to live on
>>>> £3068 per year.
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
>>> Hmmm...£59 sounds right for you.
>>> For the kids, someone told me its child tax credit these days plus
>>> child benefit.
>>> Council tax you shouldn't be paying anyway - council tax benefit
>>> should pay that. Apply for it if no application made yet.
>>>
>>> Umm...whats this £3 per day less?
>>>
>>> Martin  <><
>>>  But HMRC wont pay any tax credits so how do I put a sufficiently large 
>>> rocket up their backsides to pay some credits. So what options are their 
>>> for help, bloody useless labour mp is no help. I don't think that you can 
>>> appeal non payment of tax credits so what options are open if they wont 
>>> pay up. They refused to consider my claim because get this, I don't have 
>>> a child benefit number, it is being transferred from the wife who left 4 
>>> weeks before and I can't give them the name of my employer. That would be 
>>> because I am unemployed you useless dickheads.
>>> So I don't get IS for the kids, I get tax credits, but I don't get tax 
>>> credits because I am unemployed. What has this f**king country come to.
>>>
>>> Kevin
>> Your problem lies with your ex-wife - you need to get child benefit for 
>> the kids - you've been told that before. Until then she will get the Child 
>> tax credits.
>>
>> Why aren't you getting Child benefit? And can you answer without biting... 
>> some of us are trying to help with our answers.
>>
>> I can understand your frustration but you don't help yourself by biting at 
>> anyone and everyone - the answer lies closer to home - your wife.
>>
>> -- 
>> Robbie
> 
> You have the wrong end of the stick. I got the child tax credits anyway but 
> HMRC closed to claim as soon as I became a single parent and now the new 
> claim has been stopped because I don't have a child benefit number, guess 
> who is sitting on that, you've guessed, HMRC and the fact that I am 
> unemployed.
> Why am I not getting child benefit, well I am now just took HMRC 2 months to 
> extract their finger from their backside.
> In the mean time I get no benefit but answer me this. How do Polish workers 
> get tax credits and asylem seekers get benefit and I can't.
> There is still something odd here.
> When I signed on the Job Centre asked if I had dependents and they pushed me 
> into the IS route rather than the JSA route but now I can't get benefit for 
> the kids and to boot I now have the f**ing CSA harassing me.
> I am not biting at everyone but I don't see how the Government can escape 
> paying benefit because I am out of work or tax credits and it is all down to 
> my wife. Non of this is her fault, she just happened to walk out 3 weeks 
> before I became unemployed.
> Do we now really live in a society where somebody can't get benefit for 
> children if they don't get child benefit. I come back to my question about 
> benfits for asylum seekers, how do they get beneifit for kids.
> I am just trying to find out how much I am entitled to so that I can put in 
> the correct appeal.
> 
> Kevin 
> 
> 

Right, I'm going to say something to you that I've wanted to say for 
ages then i will help you:

Every catastrophe that can befall man has happened to you. You were 
caught up in the tsunami in 2004 - don't deny you said it, it's posted 
on usenet - you lost papers that proved you had a property that was lost 
because your papers were washed away. You growled about that for a few 
weeks in early 2005. Then you had several tax credits that were right / 
wrong / too large / too small / you had several more problems that 
befelled you.

Now, let's consider that everything that can happen to a man has 
happened to you, and you've taken most of them with a growl and an 
insult thrown out here and there, now I'll answer your question.

But just before that, you still whinged, early 2006, you insulted the 
Social Security people for various reasons that could keep me up all 
night and make me miss the bus for work if I was to repeat them all.

But hey, welcome to the farm, you've learned that life can be shit!

So, now to answer:

Get your wife off child benefit and you'll get the problem sorted out. 
The Child Reference Number is on the papers she has and you will get 
when she has her benefit ceased. Until then,you can't do anything.

-- 
Robbie

On 5 Nov, 00:49, Robbie  wrote:
> Zen83237 wrote:
> > "Robbie"  wrote in message
> >news:5p6uhfFprv4gU1@mid.individual.net...
> >> Zen83237 wrote:
> >>>  wrote in message
> >>>news:1193990498.527949.196820@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> >>> On 2 Nov, 00:43, "Zen83237"  wrote:
> >>>> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. I
> >>>> was
> >>>> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this can't be
> >>>> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody council
> >>>> tax
> >>>> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to live on
> >>>> £3068 per year.
>
> >>>> Kevin
> >>> Hmmm...£59 sounds right for you.
> >>> For the kids, someone told me its child tax credit these days plus
> >>> child benefit.
> >>> Council tax you shouldn't be paying anyway - council tax benefit
> >>> should pay that. Apply for it if no application made yet.
>
> >>> Umm...whats this £3 per day less?
>
> >>> Martin  <><
> >>>  But HMRC wont pay any tax credits so how do I put a sufficiently large
> >>> rocket up their backsides to pay some credits. So what options are their
> >>> for help, bloody useless labour mp is no help. I don't think that you can
> >>> appeal non payment of tax credits so what options are open if they wont
> >>> pay up. They refused to consider my claim because get this, I don't have
> >>> a child benefit number, it is being transferred from the wife who left 4
> >>> weeks before and I can't give them the name of my employer. That would be
> >>> because I am unemployed you useless dickheads.
> >>> So I don't get IS for the kids, I get tax credits, but I don't get tax
> >>> credits because I am unemployed. What has this f**king country come to.
>
> >>> Kevin
> >> Your problem lies with your ex-wife - you need to get child benefit for
> >> the kids - you've been told that before. Until then she will get the Child
> >> tax credits.
>
> >> Why aren't you getting Child benefit? And can you answer without biting...
> >> some of us are trying to help with our answers.
>
> >> I can understand your frustration but you don't help yourself by biting at
> >> anyone and everyone - the answer lies closer to home - your wife.
>
> >> --
> >> Robbie
>
> > You have the wrong end of the stick. I got the child tax credits anyway but
> > HMRC closed to claim as soon as I became a single parent and now the new
> > claim has been stopped because I don't have a child benefit number, guess
> > who is sitting on that, you've guessed, HMRC and the fact that I am
> > unemployed.
> > Why am I not getting child benefit, well I am now just took HMRC 2 months to
> > extract their finger from their backside.
> > In the mean time I get no benefit but answer me this. How do Polish workers
> > get tax credits and asylem seekers get benefit and I can't.
> > There is still something odd here.
> > When I signed on the Job Centre asked if I had dependents and they pushed me
> > into the IS route rather than the JSA route but now I can't get benefit for
> > the kids and to boot I now have the f**ing CSA harassing me.
> > I am not biting at everyone but I don't see how the Government can escape
> > paying benefit because I am out of work or tax credits and it is all down to
> > my wife. Non of this is her fault, she just happened to walk out 3 weeks
> > before I became unemployed.
> > Do we now really live in a society where somebody can't get benefit for
> > children if they don't get child benefit. I come back to my question about
> > benfits for asylum seekers, how do they get beneifit for kids.
> > I am just trying to find out how much I am entitled to so that I can put in
> > the correct appeal.
>
> > Kevin
>

I want to apologise for the answer I sent earlier and which I've
snipped here - I was out of order and shouldn't have posted what I
did. It was unhelpful.

>
> Get your wife off child benefit and you'll get the problem sorted out.
> The Child Reference Number is on the papers she has and you will get
> when she has her benefit ceased. Until then,you can't do anything.

This bit is still correct though - you need to get your wife to stop
claiming child benefit. You'll have to keep chasing up the issue with
the child benefit centre but eventually they will stop her claim then
you'll get the child reference numbers you need.

Again, sorry for my earlier reply, it was out of order.

Good luck.
> --
> Robbie

I replied to Robbie personally when I should have replied to the group.

Kevin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zen83237" 
To: "Robbie" 
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Income Support


>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robbie" 
> Newsgroups: uk.gov.social-security
> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Income Support
>
>
> On 5 Nov, 00:49, Robbie  wrote:
>> Zen83237 wrote:
>> > "Robbie"  wrote in message
>> >news:5p6uhfFprv4gU1@mid.individual.net...
>> >> Zen83237 wrote:
>> >>>  wrote in message
>> >>>news:1193990498.527949.196820@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> >>> On 2 Nov, 00:43, "Zen83237"  wrote:
>> >>>> How much income support should a single parent with 2 children get. 
>> >>>> I
>> >>>> was
>> >>>> given just £59 per week, less that £3 per day each. Surely this 
>> >>>> can't
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> right. I am expected to live on less that £3 per day. My bloody
>> >>>> council
>> >>>> tax
>> >>>> is more than that. How on earth can a family of 3 be expected to 
>> >>>> live
>> >>>> on
>> >>>> £3068 per year.
>>
>> >>>> Kevin
>> >>> Hmmm...£59 sounds right for you.
>> >>> For the kids, someone told me its child tax credit these days plus
>> >>> child benefit.
>> >>> Council tax you shouldn't be paying anyway - council tax benefit
>> >>> should pay that. Apply for it if no application made yet.
>>
>> >>> Umm...whats this £3 per day less?
>>
>> >>> Martin  <><
>> >>>  But HMRC wont pay any tax credits so how do I put a sufficiently
>> >>> large
>> >>> rocket up their backsides to pay some credits. So what options are
>> >>> their
>> >>> for help, bloody useless labour mp is no help. I don't think that you
>> >>> can
>> >>> appeal non payment of tax credits so what options are open if they
>> >>> wont
>> >>> pay up. They refused to consider my claim because get this, I don't
>> >>> have
>> >>> a child benefit number, it is being transferred from the wife who 
>> >>> left
>> >>> 4
>> >>> weeks before and I can't give them the name of my employer. That 
>> >>> would
>> >>> be
>> >>> because I am unemployed you useless dickheads.
>> >>> So I don't get IS for the kids, I get tax credits, but I don't get 
>> >>> tax
>> >>> credits because I am unemployed. What has this f**king country come
>> >>> to.
>>
>> >>> Kevin
>> >> Your problem lies with your ex-wife - you need to get child benefit 
>> >> for
>> >> the kids - you've been told that before. Until then she will get the
>> >> Child
>> >> tax credits.
>>
>> >> Why aren't you getting Child benefit? And can you answer without
>> >> biting...
>> >> some of us are trying to help with our answers.
>>
>> >> I can understand your frustration but you don't help yourself by 
>> >> biting
>> >> at
>> >> anyone and everyone - the answer lies closer to home - your wife.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Robbie
>>
>> > You have the wrong end of the stick. I got the child tax credits anyway
>> > but
>> > HMRC closed to claim as soon as I became a single parent and now the 
>> > new
>> > claim has been stopped because I don't have a child benefit number,
>> > guess
>> > who is sitting on that, you've guessed, HMRC and the fact that I am
>> > unemployed.
>> > Why am I not getting child benefit, well I am now just took HMRC 2
>> > months to
>> > extract their finger from their backside.
>> > In the mean time I get no benefit but answer me this. How do Polish
>> > workers
>> > get tax credits and asylem seekers get benefit and I can't.
>> > There is still something odd here.
>> > When I signed on the Job Centre asked if I had dependents and they
>> > pushed me
>> > into the IS route rather than the JSA route but now I can't get benefit
>> > for
>> > the kids and to boot I now have the f**ing CSA harassing me.
>> > I am not biting at everyone but I don't see how the Government can
>> > escape
>> > paying benefit because I am out of work or tax credits and it is all
>> > down to
>> > my wife. Non of this is her fault, she just happened to walk out 3 
>> > weeks
>> > before I became unemployed.
>> > Do we now really live in a society where somebody can't get benefit for
>> > children if they don't get child benefit. I come back to my question
>> > about
>> > benfits for asylum seekers, how do they get beneifit for kids.
>> > I am just trying to find out how much I am entitled to so that I can 
>> > put
>> > in
>> > the correct appeal.
>>
>> > Kevin
>>
>
> I want to apologise for the answer I sent earlier and which I've
> snipped here - I was out of order and shouldn't have posted what I
> did. It was unhelpful.
>
>>
>> Get your wife off child benefit and you'll get the problem sorted out.
>> The Child Reference Number is on the papers she has and you will get
>> when she has her benefit ceased. Until then,you can't do anything.
>
> This bit is still correct though - you need to get your wife to stop
> claiming child benefit. You'll have to keep chasing up the issue with
> the child benefit centre but eventually they will stop her claim then
> you'll get the child reference numbers you need.
>
> Again, sorry for my earlier reply, it was out of order.
>
> Good luck.
>> --
>> RobbieReally
>
> Really done your reasearch haven't you. In the same week that the 
> Government
> was warned that it would not meet its target for child poverty I have been
> slagged off because I had 4 weeks of unemployment with 2 kids to support
> with fuck all support from the Government, no IS, no JSA, no child 
> benefit,
> no tax credits.
> Of course had I come into the country in the back of a lorry or I was a
> muslim it would be different. And exactly what had the tsunami got to do
> with it.
> I would just like to have the same respect from the Job Centre, HMRC that
> immigrants and homosexuals get. Is that ok.
>
> Kevin
>
>