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date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:17:51 +0100,    group: uk.gov.social-security        back       
Re: fraud   
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Mike wrote:-

<snip>

>Unless you are absolutely stupid an annoymous letter is easy, just
>remember don't mention your name, address or that you live next door!
>To be extra safe drive 30 miles in any direction and post the letter
>in the first box you see.

Or just take it in to a local office and post it into their own internal
mail system. That way there's no postmark so making it very difficult to
track.

>Although ringing in might be the best way of providing the info (the
>trained investigator will ask for info you might not put in a letter)
>it may not be annoymous unless you inhibit the caller ID.  Many
>organisations including DWP offices have claller ID display and so I
>assume some LAs might.

If the council provide a telephone connected to their internal phone
system so you can contact the various departments, taking advantage of
that means the caller ID is going to either be non-existent or match one
of their own numbers.


Regards,
        David Bolt

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date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:17:51 +0100   author:   David Bolt

Re: fraud   
David Bolt wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Mike wrote:-
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> Unless you are absolutely stupid an annoymous letter is easy, just
>> remember don't mention your name, address or that you live next door!
>> To be extra safe drive 30 miles in any direction and post the letter
>> in the first box you see.
> 
> Or just take it in to a local office and post it into their own internal
> mail system. That way there's no postmark so making it very difficult to
> track.
> 
It would be perfectly safe to post it in a pillar-box directly ouside 
his front door. The only agencies potentially able to back-track the 
letter to know where it was posted would be the police, and MI5. They 
would only use these powers in detecting the most serious crimes. 
Knowing which box it was posted in would reveal nothing useful in a 
benefit fraud case.

>> Although ringing in might be the best way of providing the info (the
>> trained investigator will ask for info you might not put in a letter)
>> it may not be annoymous unless you inhibit the caller ID.  Many
>> organisations including DWP offices have claller ID display and so I
>> assume some LAs might.
> 
> If the council provide a telephone connected to their internal phone
> system so you can contact the various departments, taking advantage of
> that means the caller ID is going to either be non-existent or match one
> of their own numbers.
> 
Why not just withold the caller ID from his home phone?
Dial a prefix of 141 to do this. As I said though, the LA would not 
normally record the caller ID. If for some weird reason they did, this 
information would not be available to the alleged fraudster, even if 
they used their data-protection-act or freedom of information act rights.
date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:06:04 +0100   author:   anthonyberet lid

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