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date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:08 +0100 (BST),    group: uk.gov.local        back       
Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Camden LBC, Haverstock
LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.

Craven DC, Cowling
Con 351 (64.3;+47.4), Ratepayer 136 (24.9;+24.9), Ind 59 (10.8;-34.3),
[Ind (0.0; -38.1)]
Majority 215. Turnout 31.2%. Con gain from Ind. Last fought 2004.

Hounslow LBC, Hanworth Park
Con 1054 (41.1;-3.3), Lab 729 (28.4;+2.1), LD 507 (19.8;+4.2), 
Ind 201 (7.8;-5.9), Green 73 (2.8;+2.8)
Majority 325. Turnout 32.3%. Con hold. Last fought 2006.

Kent CC, Maidstone North East
LD 1620 (56.2;+12.5), Con 831 (28.8;-1.3), Green 187 (6.5;+2.5), 
Lab 164 (5.7;-12.5), UKIP 81 (2.8;-1.3)
Majority 789. Turnout 24.3%. LD hold. Last fought 2005.

Kidsgrove TC, Kidsgrove
Lab 231 (43.8), LD 171 (32.4), UKIP 126 (23.9)
Majority 60. Turnout 10.1%. Lab gain from Ind. 

Newcastle Under Lyme BC, Westlands
Con 696 (60.9;+1.2), LD 229 (20.0;+5.2), Lab 126 (11.0;-2.9), 
UKIP 92 (8.0;-3.5)
Majority 467. Turnout 24.8%. Con hold. Last fought 2007.

Rotherham MBC, Valley
Lab 781 (43.8;-1.5), BNP 348 (19.5;+2.0), Ind 308 (17.3;+17.3), 
Con 197 (11.0;-10.4), LD 150 (8.4; -7.4)
Majority 433. Turnout 19.5%. Lab hold. Last fought 2007.

Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
Con 1067 (41.9;+7.8), LD 1005 (39.5;+6.6), Lab 268 (10.5;-13.9), 
UKIP 204 (8.0;+4.7)
[Green (0.0;-5.3)]
Majority 62. Turnout 20.4%. Con hold. Last fought 2005.

Wells City TC, Central
Ind 282 (54.2), LD 238 (45.8)
Majority 44. Turnout 31.4%. Ind hold.


Information courtesy of the Association of Liberal Democrat Councillors
www: http://www.aldc.org. 
Also available at http://www.gwydir.demon.co.uk/byelections/
-- 
Cllr. Colin Rosenstiel
Cambridge
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 01:08 +0100 (BST)   author:   (Colin Rosenstiel)

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Andrew Fenyo wrote a load of nonsense!  Please ignore previous posting - 
a sad case of pre-senile dementia obviously!
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:14:43 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Andrew Fenyo wrote a load of nonsense!  Please ignore previous posting - 
a sad case of pre-senile dementia obviously!
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:14:43 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Andrew Fenyo wrote a load of nonsense!  Please ignore previous posting - 
a sad case of pre-senile dementia obviously!
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:14:43 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Andrew Fenyo wrote a load of nonsense!  Please ignore previous posting - 
a sad case of pre-senile dementia obviously!
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:14:43 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Andrew Fenyo wrote a load of nonsense!  Please ignore previous posting - 
a sad case of pre-senile dementia obviously!
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:14:43 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :
>Paul Hyett wrote:
>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>> wrote :
>>>
>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>
>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>
>11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:54:53 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Paul Hyett wrote:
> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> wrote :
>> Paul Hyett wrote:
>>> In uk.politics.electoral on Sat, 14 Jul 2007, Colin Rosenstiel 
>>>  wrote :
>>>>
>>>> Kent CC, Maidstone North East
>>>  Very large ward (11,800) if that turnout figure is correct!
>>>>
>>>> Staffordshire CC, Keele and Westlands
>>>  This one even bigger (12,500)!
>>
>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought so 
>> it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.
> 
> In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.

But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions? How many 
electors do you have? Here is Birmingham many Wards have 17000 or more 
electors. Anyone else approaching that?

To drop a leaflet into every letterbox in the Ward in which I live means 
a print-run of 10000. Which then takes some delivering!
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 09:16:27 +0100   author:   John ks

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
In uk.politics.electoral on Sun, 15 Jul 2007, John <john@no.thanks> 
wrote :

>Paul Hyett wrote:
>>>
>>> 11800? 12500? They are of course County Council seats being fought 
>>>so  it would not be surprising if there were so many electors.

>>  In Cheltenham, CC wards are the same size as BC ones.
>
>But folks how big are your Wards, or your Electoral Divisions?

7-8k.

>How many electors do you have?

70-80k
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:21:54 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Colin Rosenstiel wrote:
> Camden LBC, Haverstock
> LD 1160 (43.4;-0.2), Lab 1000 (37.4;+3.0), Green 299 (11.2;+0.4), 
> Con 213 (8.0;-3.2)
> Majority 160. Turnout 34.1%. LD gain from Lab. Last fought 2006.
> 

If the LD sharee is down, and the Labour vote up, how was it a gain?
date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:01:35 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

Re: Local Authority Byelection Results: Thursday 12th July 2007   
Andrew Fenyo wrote a load of nonsense!  Please ignore previous posting - 
a sad case of pre-senile dementia obviously!
date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:14:43 +0100   author:   Andrew Fenyo

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