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date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:12:58 +0100,
group: uk.gov.agency.csa
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Self-Employed - Failure to hand over balance sheets
Hi,
I am just seeking confirmation on how the CSA deals with self-employed
people. I have historically been informed that when on CS2 a self-employed
individual can refuse to hand over copies of the balance sheets ('the
books') and that they will get an interim assessment of £30 pw. Is this
correct as I have recently been told that this may not the case. If a
self-employed person on CS2 refuses to disclose their income what are the
penalties (if any?).
Cheers.
date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 13:12:58 +0100
author: Tony lid
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Re: Self-Employed - Failure to hand over balance sheets
The £30 amount is mainly used as a temporary figure for those who are
genuinely unable to provide accounts (e.g. new business just started
up). Once those accounts are available, everything is
converted/backdated using the standard calculation.
For those that refuse to supply the income.... In theory, they can take
you to court as failing to supply information is now a criminal offence.
However, it's far more likely that they'll just send a referral to the
Inland Revenue and get the relevant details from there. This can take a
few weeks though and so arrears could be a factor when it's finally done.
Tony wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am just seeking confirmation on how the CSA deals with self-employed
> people. I have historically been informed that when on CS2 a
> self-employed individual can refuse to hand over copies of the balance
> sheets ('the books') and that they will get an interim assessment of £30
> pw. Is this correct as I have recently been told that this may not the
> case. If a self-employed person on CS2 refuses to disclose their income
> what are the penalties (if any?).
>
>
> Cheers.
date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:14:26 +0100
author: Lee Phillips
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Re: Self-Employed - Failure to hand over balance sheets
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 17:14:26 +0100, Lee Phillips wrote:
> The £30 amount is mainly used as a temporary figure for those who are
> genuinely unable to provide accounts (e.g. new business just started
> up). Once those accounts are available, everything is
> converted/backdated using the standard calculation.
>
> For those that refuse to supply the income.... In theory, they can take
> you to court as failing to supply information is now a criminal offence.
> However, it's far more likely that they'll just send a referral to the
> Inland Revenue and get the relevant details from there. This can take a
> few weeks though and so arrears could be a factor when it's finally done.
That's helped clarify the uncertainty.
Many thanks.
> Tony wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I am just seeking confirmation on how the CSA deals with self-employed
>> people. I have historically been informed that when on CS2 a
>> self-employed individual can refuse to hand over copies of the balance
>> sheets ('the books') and that they will get an interim assessment of
>> £30 pw. Is this correct as I have recently been told that this may not
>> the case. If a self-employed person on CS2 refuses to disclose their
>> income what are the penalties (if any?).
>> Cheers.
date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:33:11 +0100
author: Tony lid
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Re: Self-Employed - Failure to hand over balance sheets
You have to provide info if they ask for it and you have it, if not you can
get £1000.00 for failing to provide info. They do prosecute and actual fines
range from £50.00 upwards.
Advise you to answer there questions in writing only, don't talk on the
phone.
"Tony" <on@request.invalid> wrote in message
news:op.udw77xhxwzzi51@development-lap.home...
> Hi,
>
> I am just seeking confirmation on how the CSA deals with self-employed
> people. I have historically been informed that when on CS2 a self-employed
> individual can refuse to hand over copies of the balance sheets ('the
> books') and that they will get an interim assessment of £30 pw. Is this
> correct as I have recently been told that this may not the case. If a
> self-employed person on CS2 refuses to disclose their income what are the
> penalties (if any?).
>
>
> Cheers.
date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 01:21:34 +0100
author: Fletcher
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