Team,

For five years, my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us and the 
CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with us.  He has 
always said "they will never get me" and has now ramped up a notional 
arrears total of thosands of pounds (based on a CSA emergency assessment). 
What really rubs salt in the wounds is that he is paid in cash and makes no 
secret that he deals only in cash, flashing wads of the stuff whenever he 
can.

 We are sick and tired of phoning the CSA every 9-12 months only to be told 
that there is a new case worker or that the previous discussion had not been 
recorded! However, we believe that the baliffs have been round to matey's 
house but failed to secure anything as all goods are in his new partner's 
name.

Now we have something of a breakthrough and would like your opinions as to 
how best to proceed in order to secure the arrears and a reasonable payment 
going forward.

After many months of trying to put pieces of the jigsaw together, we have 
tracked down his employer and their address.  What's more is that the 
"owners" of the company have nominated wifes ex as the "proprietor" as they 
are dodgy characters who we believe are banned from directorships.  These 
guys are paying cash to all their employees and our mole suggests that they 
are paying themselves massive amounts of cash each week - bourn out by the 
aray of new TOTR cars.  The company is registered at my wife's ex's rented 
house.

The CSA asked us to let them know if we found out where he worked so we are 
ready to make this information available.  But what will they be able to do 
with this information?  Being the proprietor of the company does this give 
the CSA any more leverage and can they go after company assets?

Thanks

wrote:
>  my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us
>  and the CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with
>  us.

So you've got his wife and children, and you want him to pay you as
well? Don't want much do you?


-- 

I'm using an evaluation license of nemo since 103 days.
You should really try it!
http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

No, doubt it will make any difference at all. Although CSA can have the 
balifs take property they cant touch anything relating to his employment 
however if he's the 'owner' of a ltd then they can issue an order to deduct 
money from his wages which he must comply with or they'll have him over a 
barrell but you'll probably find he's a sole trader and nothing changes. The 
key issue here is what type of owner he legaly is, check the company 
register.


"PDES"  wrote in message 
news:MwXAi.189091$sR4.47976@fe08.news.easynews.com...
> Team,
>
> For five years, my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us and 
> the CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with us.  He 
> has always said "they will never get me" and has now ramped up a notional 
> arrears total of thosands of pounds (based on a CSA emergency assessment). 
> What really rubs salt in the wounds is that he is paid in cash and makes 
> no secret that he deals only in cash, flashing wads of the stuff whenever 
> he can.
>
> We are sick and tired of phoning the CSA every 9-12 months only to be told 
> that there is a new case worker or that the previous discussion had not 
> been recorded! However, we believe that the baliffs have been round to 
> matey's house but failed to secure anything as all goods are in his new 
> partner's name.
>
> Now we have something of a breakthrough and would like your opinions as to 
> how best to proceed in order to secure the arrears and a reasonable 
> payment going forward.
>
> After many months of trying to put pieces of the jigsaw together, we have 
> tracked down his employer and their address.  What's more is that the 
> "owners" of the company have nominated wifes ex as the "proprietor" as 
> they are dodgy characters who we believe are banned from directorships. 
> These guys are paying cash to all their employees and our mole suggests 
> that they are paying themselves massive amounts of cash each week - bourn 
> out by the aray of new TOTR cars.  The company is registered at my wife's 
> ex's rented house.
>
> The CSA asked us to let them know if we found out where he worked so we 
> are ready to make this information available.  But what will they be able 
> to do with this information?  Being the proprietor of the company does 
> this give the CSA any more leverage and can they go after company assets?
>
> Thanks
>

Thanks for that, as depressing as it is!  I don't think it is a limited 
company.  I think he is just a director  -  a bit like a bronze nameplate!

"Fletcher"  wrote in message 
news:ZYadncXn2tmHz0nbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
> No, doubt it will make any difference at all. Although CSA can have the 
> balifs take property they cant touch anything relating to his employment 
> however if he's the 'owner' of a ltd then they can issue an order to 
> deduct money from his wages which he must comply with or they'll have him 
> over a barrell but you'll probably find he's a sole trader and nothing 
> changes. The key issue here is what type of owner he legaly is, check the 
> company register.
>
>
> "PDES"  wrote in message 
> news:MwXAi.189091$sR4.47976@fe08.news.easynews.com...
>> Team,
>>
>> For five years, my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us and 
>> the CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with us.  He 
>> has always said "they will never get me" and has now ramped up a notional 
>> arrears total of thosands of pounds (based on a CSA emergency 
>> assessment). What really rubs salt in the wounds is that he is paid in 
>> cash and makes no secret that he deals only in cash, flashing wads of the 
>> stuff whenever he can.
>>
>> We are sick and tired of phoning the CSA every 9-12 months only to be 
>> told that there is a new case worker or that the previous discussion had 
>> not been recorded! However, we believe that the baliffs have been round 
>> to matey's house but failed to secure anything as all goods are in his 
>> new partner's name.
>>
>> Now we have something of a breakthrough and would like your opinions as 
>> to how best to proceed in order to secure the arrears and a reasonable 
>> payment going forward.
>>
>> After many months of trying to put pieces of the jigsaw together, we have 
>> tracked down his employer and their address.  What's more is that the 
>> "owners" of the company have nominated wifes ex as the "proprietor" as 
>> they are dodgy characters who we believe are banned from directorships. 
>> These guys are paying cash to all their employees and our mole suggests 
>> that they are paying themselves massive amounts of cash each week - bourn 
>> out by the aray of new TOTR cars.  The company is registered at my wife's 
>> ex's rented house.
>>
>> The CSA asked us to let them know if we found out where he worked so we 
>> are ready to make this information available.  But what will they be able 
>> to do with this information?  Being the proprietor of the company does 
>> this give the CSA any more leverage and can they go after company assets?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>

I can never understand why prats like you bother to write judgmental 
responses when you have no idea of the circumstances.



"redmelons"  wrote in message 
news:nemoTue082807054359@news.tiscali.co.uk...
>  wrote:
>>  my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us
>>  and the CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with
>>  us.
>
> So you've got his wife and children, and you want him to pay you as
> well? Don't want much do you?
>
> -- 
> I'm using an evaluation license of nemo since 103 days.
> You should really try it!
> http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo
>

wrote:
>  I can never understand why prats like you bother to write judgmental
> responses when you have no idea of the circumstances.

Because I've had it from the other side for the last 13 years
arsehole. Why not just think about how lucky you are and take
responsibilty for your new family?


-- 

I'm using an evaluation license of nemo since 103 days.
You should really try it!
http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

He'll do what my partners ex has done.

Got his 'employer' to send in letters and wage slips for a  low amount then 
have the rest made up in cash.


"PDES"  wrote in message 
news:vFYAi.191359$sR4.173882@fe08.news.easynews.com...
> Thanks for that, as depressing as it is!  I don't think it is a limited 
> company.  I think he is just a director  -  a bit like a bronze nameplate!
>
> "Fletcher"  wrote in message 
> news:ZYadncXn2tmHz0nbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>
>> No, doubt it will make any difference at all. Although CSA can have the 
>> balifs take property they cant touch anything relating to his employment 
>> however if he's the 'owner' of a ltd then they can issue an order to 
>> deduct money from his wages which he must comply with or they'll have him 
>> over a barrell but you'll probably find he's a sole trader and nothing 
>> changes. The key issue here is what type of owner he legaly is, check the 
>> company register.
>>
>>
>> "PDES"  wrote in message 
>> news:MwXAi.189091$sR4.47976@fe08.news.easynews.com...
>>> Team,
>>>
>>> For five years, my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us and 
>>> the CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with us.  He 
>>> has always said "they will never get me" and has now ramped up a 
>>> notional arrears total of thosands of pounds (based on a CSA emergency 
>>> assessment). What really rubs salt in the wounds is that he is paid in 
>>> cash and makes no secret that he deals only in cash, flashing wads of 
>>> the stuff whenever he can.
>>>
>>> We are sick and tired of phoning the CSA every 9-12 months only to be 
>>> told that there is a new case worker or that the previous discussion had 
>>> not been recorded! However, we believe that the baliffs have been round 
>>> to matey's house but failed to secure anything as all goods are in his 
>>> new partner's name.
>>>
>>> Now we have something of a breakthrough and would like your opinions as 
>>> to how best to proceed in order to secure the arrears and a reasonable 
>>> payment going forward.
>>>
>>> After many months of trying to put pieces of the jigsaw together, we 
>>> have tracked down his employer and their address.  What's more is that 
>>> the "owners" of the company have nominated wifes ex as the "proprietor" 
>>> as they are dodgy characters who we believe are banned from 
>>> directorships. These guys are paying cash to all their employees and our 
>>> mole suggests that they are paying themselves massive amounts of cash 
>>> each week - bourn out by the aray of new TOTR cars.  The company is 
>>> registered at my wife's ex's rented house.
>>>
>>> The CSA asked us to let them know if we found out where he worked so we 
>>> are ready to make this information available.  But what will they be 
>>> able to do with this information?  Being the proprietor of the company 
>>> does this give the CSA any more leverage and can they go after company 
>>> assets?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Thats a bit harsh?  I understand the heartache involved for those 
fathers that have their wife and kids tempted away by another man, but 
you dont know how this separation occurred.  The ex may well have been 
the one to walk - leaving "wife and kids" to fend for themselves?

redmelons wrote:
>  wrote:
>>  my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us
>>  and the CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with
>>  us.
> 
> So you've got his wife and children, and you want him to pay you as
> well? Don't want much do you?
> 
>

NACSA CHAIR  wrote:
>>   So you've got his wife and children, and you want him to pay you
>> as well? Don't want much do you?

>  Thats a bit harsh?

Perhaps, but I do like to turn the tables occasionally from the usual
'stop moaning about paying for your kids'. I actually believe that if
you take on a new family, you accept full responsibility and don't
expect an ex-partner to subsidise your relationship. Why is that any
worse than expecting biological parents to pay when they may be
completely excluded from the children's lives?


-- 

I'm using an evaluation license of nemo since 104 days.
You should really try it!
http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

No I don't agree that a new partner should automatically take any 
responsibility for Kids, I mean supposing the kid(s) were really bad, 
dangerous or crazy or made his life a misery.

I think it's certainly an admirable thing to do but no way should they be 
expected to accept full responsibility for the kids.

And if a father is neither paying nor taking anything to do with his kids 
then he's not only a deadbeat but he's a right bastard too. Different story 
if he's being denied access or not seeing them now is the result of having 
been denied access.

I won't comply with CSA but I do see, love and care for my kids, they want 
for nothing, spend time with me, go on holiday with me. I contribute 
directly to my kids, not my ex, not the government and I will almost 
certainly be jailed by this government for doing this. They will say that 
even although my son lived with me for almost the entire summer holiday I 
should still have paid the government! Not fucking likely. Anyway to my way 
of thinking it's one or the other, you either see your kids are ok or you 
accept the governments demands I just take extreme objection to doing both 
but anyone who does neither better have good reason or they indeed deadbeat 
bastards.

Also if I am contributing to my kids, I would be shocked if I were expected 
to also have to take financial responsibility for my partners kids all 
because I have a relationship with their mother, so I can fully understand 
the posters frustrations but consider how you feel about the kids if the NRP 
were dead, might help relieve some of the frustration.


"redmelons"  wrote in message 
news:nemoWed082907061655@news.tiscali.co.uk...
> NACSA CHAIR  wrote:
>>>   So you've got his wife and children, and you want him to pay you
>>> as well? Don't want much do you?
>
>>  Thats a bit harsh?
>
> Perhaps, but I do like to turn the tables occasionally from the usual
> 'stop moaning about paying for your kids'. I actually believe that if
> you take on a new family, you accept full responsibility and don't
> expect an ex-partner to subsidise your relationship. Why is that any
> worse than expecting biological parents to pay when they may be
> completely excluded from the children's lives?
>
> -- 
> I'm using an evaluation license of nemo since 104 days.
> You should really try it!
> http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo
>

On 28 Aug, 16:52, "PDES"  wrote:
> Team,
>
> For five years, my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us and the
> CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with us.  He has
> always said "they will never get me" and has now ramped up a notional
> arrears total of thosands of pounds (based on a CSA emergency assessment).
> What really rubs salt in the wounds is that he is paid in cash and makes no
> secret that he deals only in cash, flashing wads of the stuff whenever he
> can.
>
>  We are sick and tired of phoning the CSA every 9-12 months only to be told
> that there is a new case worker or that the previous discussion had not been
> recorded! However, we believe that the baliffs have been round to matey's
> house but failed to secure anything as all goods are in his new partner's
> name.
>
> Now we have something of a breakthrough and would like your opinions as to
> how best to proceed in order to secure the arrears and a reasonable payment
> going forward.
>
> After many months of trying to put pieces of the jigsaw together, we have
> tracked down his employer and their address.  What's more is that the
> "owners" of the company have nominated wifes ex as the "proprietor" as they
> are dodgy characters who we believe are banned from directorships.  These
> guys are paying cash to all their employees and our mole suggests that they
> are paying themselves massive amounts of cash each week - bourn out by the
> aray of new TOTR cars.  The company is registered at my wife's ex's rented
> house.
>
> The CSA asked us to let them know if we found out where he worked so we are
> ready to make this information available.  But what will they be able to do
> with this information?  Being the proprietor of the company does this give
> the CSA any more leverage and can they go after company assets?
>
> Thanks

Why not try to come to an arrangment with him and cut out the CSA
altogether? He may be avoiding them because he knows full well that
they'll bleed him dry once they have got their claws into him.

Don't kid yourself that the CSA is the answer to your problems. They
are an incompetent, shambolic and immoral organization. They don't
give a flying fuck about the welfare of you or your kids, they're only
interested in clawing in as much money as possible from the 'easy
targets', ie. men that work for a living and are traceable. They
aren't given the necessary resources for tracking down the ones that
don't pay, because it's cheaper and easier to compensate for the
'deadbeat dads' by extracting huge sums from the ones that do pay.

It sounds like the whole thing has become an obsession with you.
You've spent 'many months' doing detective work, but I can tell you
that this is time wasted. They already say he owes them thousands
under a 'notional' assessment. Even if you prove that he earns good
money, the amount he owes according to the CSA wouldn't increase
because he's already been assessed to the max.

To answer you question, the Limited Company is a seperate legal
entity. Under the new rules, the CSA have some power to investigate a
Limited Company if it's set up in the name of the 'absent parent'. If
this were the case, they couldn't touch the company assets but they
could probe into bank accounts and company records and assess his
maintainence based on their findings.

However, as the wife is registered as the propieter, they can only
request from them information relating to the amount of taxable income
he declares as an employee. And you can bet your life that he's paid
minimum wage. In fact, if you were to sucessfully get an assessment
based on his taxable salary, he'd probably end up paying around £20
per week.

I very much doubt that the Company is paying 'wads of cash' to their
employees. Cash is very hard to come by nowadays, and you certainly
don't buy TOFR cars with it! More likely they are offsetting their
profits through the purchase of expensive vehicles.

I don't know the full details of your situation. This man may be a
complete arsehole who doesn't give a damn about his kids. If that's
the case, don't waste another second worrying about him. You may
justifyably be angry at him, but trying to force money out of him via
the CSA is a waste of time. Even if he is forced to pay, this won't
compensate for his heartlessness. A bad father is a bad father,
whether he contributes money or not.

My own violent alcoholic father walked away from me and my four
younger sisters when is was twelve, leaving us all peniless. As he
left, he said "Son, you are the man of the house now". So I got the
job of looking after my four younger siblings and emotionally broken
mother. We ate jam and bread for lunch, and after the elctricity was
cut off I buried our milk in a hole in the garden to keep it cool.
Miserly State payouts were topped up by a leaflet distribution round I
did after school until ten o'clock every evening. We never got a penny
from the bastard. So don't think for a second that I'm defending
irresponsible fathers.

But if, unlike my own father, you think your ex may have an ounce of
decency, why not redirect your efforts into trying to build some kind
of amicable relationship for the sake of the children? The most
important thing for them is the relationship with their father, not
money. Get him involved in their lives, encourage him to share the
decisions and responsibility. Ask him to make reasonable contributions
towards their upkeep, instead of relying on the CSA to bully and
threaten him into compliance.

Gary.

Gaz,

Thanks for the reply.  Sorry to be so tardy replying.

I have to say that, like you, we have despaired at the inefficiency of the 
CSA but suddenly, they seem energised. They are actually calling us with 
progress reports!  Baliffs have been round and have secured cash and two 
court applications to recover arrears are being submitted this week.  We 
shall see!!!

To clarify a couple of points, the children's father is the proprietor of 
the company.  Don't feel sorry for him as an "easy touch".  He has been one 
of the elusive parents for four years, failing to provide residential 
address or company details. It is only through our diligence and 
investigation that he has been cornered.

He is not paying "to the max".  My wife was awarded a standard minimum 
emergecy payment of £40 per week when he refused to co-operate but none of 
this was paid.  He now owes a good few thousands even based on this 
emergency payment. One of the court applications is to get sight of his 
earnings so that a true assessment can be made.  (He is currently paying of 
his new car at £2000 per month so is hardly on the breadline!)

Currently, there is no great animosity between my wife and her ex and there 
has been a "private" agreement in place for a few months and which has been 
declared to the CSA but this does not come close to his true liability. From 
my part, I hate his guts and would be happy to make is life uncomfortabe 
whenever possible but you would need to understand the history to understand 
this loathing.


Rgds


"gaz"  wrote in message 
news:1189210065.137692.254010@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On 28 Aug, 16:52, "PDES"  wrote:
> Team,
>
> For five years, my wife's ex has been sticking two fingers up at us and 
> the
> CSA regarding payments for his two children who reside with us.  He has
> always said "they will never get me" and has now ramped up a notional
> arrears total of thosands of pounds (based on a CSA emergency assessment).
> What really rubs salt in the wounds is that he is paid in cash and makes 
> no
> secret that he deals only in cash, flashing wads of the stuff whenever he
> can.
>
>  We are sick and tired of phoning the CSA every 9-12 months only to be 
> told
> that there is a new case worker or that the previous discussion had not 
> been
> recorded! However, we believe that the baliffs have been round to matey's
> house but failed to secure anything as all goods are in his new partner's
> name.
>
> Now we have something of a breakthrough and would like your opinions as to
> how best to proceed in order to secure the arrears and a reasonable 
> payment
> going forward.
>
> After many months of trying to put pieces of the jigsaw together, we have
> tracked down his employer and their address.  What's more is that the
> "owners" of the company have nominated wifes ex as the "proprietor" as 
> they
> are dodgy characters who we believe are banned from directorships.  These
> guys are paying cash to all their employees and our mole suggests that 
> they
> are paying themselves massive amounts of cash each week - bourn out by the
> aray of new TOTR cars.  The company is registered at my wife's ex's rented
> house.
>
> The CSA asked us to let them know if we found out where he worked so we 
> are
> ready to make this information available.  But what will they be able to 
> do
> with this information?  Being the proprietor of the company does this give
> the CSA any more leverage and can they go after company assets?
>
> Thanks

Why not try to come to an arrangment with him and cut out the CSA
altogether? He may be avoiding them because he knows full well that
they'll bleed him dry once they have got their claws into him.

Don't kid yourself that the CSA is the answer to your problems. They
are an incompetent, shambolic and immoral organization. They don't
give a flying fuck about the welfare of you or your kids, they're only
interested in clawing in as much money as possible from the 'easy
targets', ie. men that work for a living and are traceable. They
aren't given the necessary resources for tracking down the ones that
don't pay, because it's cheaper and easier to compensate for the
'deadbeat dads' by extracting huge sums from the ones that do pay.

It sounds like the whole thing has become an obsession with you.
You've spent 'many months' doing detective work, but I can tell you
that this is time wasted. They already say he owes them thousands
under a 'notional' assessment. Even if you prove that he earns good
money, the amount he owes according to the CSA wouldn't increase
because he's already been assessed to the max.

To answer you question, the Limited Company is a seperate legal
entity. Under the new rules, the CSA have some power to investigate a
Limited Company if it's set up in the name of the 'absent parent'. If
this were the case, they couldn't touch the company assets but they
could probe into bank accounts and company records and assess his
maintainence based on their findings.

However, as the wife is registered as the propieter, they can only
request from them information relating to the amount of taxable income
he declares as an employee. And you can bet your life that he's paid
minimum wage. In fact, if you were to sucessfully get an assessment
based on his taxable salary, he'd probably end up paying around £20
per week.

I very much doubt that the Company is paying 'wads of cash' to their
employees. Cash is very hard to come by nowadays, and you certainly
don't buy TOFR cars with it! More likely they are offsetting their
profits through the purchase of expensive vehicles.

I don't know the full details of your situation. This man may be a
complete arsehole who doesn't give a damn about his kids. If that's
the case, don't waste another second worrying about him. You may
justifyably be angry at him, but trying to force money out of him via
the CSA is a waste of time. Even if he is forced to pay, this won't
compensate for his heartlessness. A bad father is a bad father,
whether he contributes money or not.

My own violent alcoholic father walked away from me and my four
younger sisters when is was twelve, leaving us all peniless. As he
left, he said "Son, you are the man of the house now". So I got the
job of looking after my four younger siblings and emotionally broken
mother. We ate jam and bread for lunch, and after the elctricity was
cut off I buried our milk in a hole in the garden to keep it cool.
Miserly State payouts were topped up by a leaflet distribution round I
did after school until ten o'clock every evening. We never got a penny
from the bastard. So don't think for a second that I'm defending
irresponsible fathers.

But if, unlike my own father, you think your ex may have an ounce of
decency, why not redirect your efforts into trying to build some kind
of amicable relationship for the sake of the children? The most
important thing for them is the relationship with their father, not
money. Get him involved in their lives, encourage him to share the
decisions and responsibility. Ask him to make reasonable contributions
towards their upkeep, instead of relying on the CSA to bully and
threaten him into compliance.

Gary.

On 24 Sep, 17:29, "PDES"  wrote:
> Gaz,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  Sorry to be so tardy replying.
>
> I have to say that, like you, we have despaired at the inefficiency of the
> CSA but suddenly, they seem energised. They are actually calling us with
> progress reports!  Baliffs have been round and have secured cash and two
> court applications to recover arrears are being submitted this week.  We
> shall see!!!
>
> To clarify a couple of points, the children's father is the proprietor of
> the company.  Don't feel sorry for him as an "easy touch".  He has been one
> of the elusive parents for four years, failing to provide residential
> address or company details. It is only through our diligence and
> investigation that he has been cornered.
>
> He is not paying "to the max".  My wife was awarded a standard minimum
> emergecy payment of £40 per week when he refused to co-operate but none of
> this was paid.  He now owes a good few thousands even based on this
> emergency payment. One of the court applications is to get sight of his
> earnings so that a true assessment can be made.  (He is currently paying of
> his new car at £2000 per month so is hardly on the breadline!)
>
> Currently, there is no great animosity between my wife and her ex and there
> has been a "private" agreement in place for a few months and which has been
> declared to the CSA but this does not come close to his true liability. From
> my part, I hate his guts and would be happy to make is life uncomfortabe
> whenever possible but you would need to understand the history to understand
> this loathing.
>
> Rgds


I can't say too much because I don't know the details of this case as
you say. But no matter how much you hate his guts, using the issue of
child maintenance to make his life uncomfortable isn't the way forward
in my humble opinion. That's because the only consideration should be
the welfare of the children. And the welfare of the kids isn't only
about the financial help they get from their fathers, it's also about
sustaining a good relationship with him. Once the CSA are involved
they WILL make his life very uncomfortable and they WILL make every
effort to bleed him dry. He may or may not deserve this, but I can
tell you from experience that when the CSA get involved the children
NEVER benefit, the relationship between NRP and offspring always
suffers and is sometimes destroyed.

I'm not sticking up for this man in any way, by the sounds of it he
needs to grow up and start taking responsibility. But the CSA won't
make him become a good father, they will just create turmoil.
Furthermore, they are so incompetent that it's doubtful you'll get the
results you want from them anyway, especially as he seems so
determined to dodge them. However, I do understand that if you've
tried every other avenue, the CSA may be the only choice left to you,
which is a shame.

I hope you don't think I'm lecturing, I'm just talking from
experience. I became involved in a war with my ex, not realising until
too late the damage this was doing to my son. With hindsight, I wish
I'd just swallowed my pride, bit my tongue and not let personal
feelings come before the happiness of my boy.

Regarding the Limited Company, it doesn't matter what you think he
earns, the CSA can only base their assessment on what they can PROVE
he earns. If he's pumping £2000 per month into the lease of a car,
chances are he's left with very little profit or earnings.
Unfortunately, the system allows people to manipulate the figures in
this way and avoid profit related liabilities and there is very little
the CSA can do about that. People avoid their liabailties to the
Inland Revenue in this way, and the IR is a huge and well financed
Government department. The CSA on the other hand is understaffed and
incompetent, so what chance do they stand?
Even with their powers relating to 'lifestyle incompatible with
income' and so on, this area if far too complex for an organization
like the CSA to deal with.

I'll say it again, the CSA is not the answer, they will create more
problems than they solve.

I wish you good luck, I hope it all gets resolved and I hope the kids
father wakes up and starts behaving like a responsible adult before
it's too late.

Gary.