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date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:50:49 -0700,    group: uk.gov.agency.csa        back       
criminal compliance???   
OK so I finally get a letter from "Barry Porter Investigations manager
CSA S.E. area" asking me to attend an informal interview ( which I
have no problem with )

Quoting the letter " The CSA has conducted an investigation into your
maintenance assessment.As a result of this investigation I have some
questions that I would like to ask you comment on"

So I phoned up to ask if it was anything I could deal with on the
phone...they answer the phone "criminal compliance" (!) and would not
give any further information.

I find this all a bit baffling as they used to just send a
reassessment form out,you fill it in,they send you a payment book,you
make the payments...end of story.

They have access to all of my income details with or without me so
what's the big deal?

If I am to pay anything or owe anything I will pay no problem.I have
never understood the system of CSA payments and have always found it
completely baffling

Any advice appreciated

Best

SmokeyMo

Any advice appreciated
date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:50:49 -0700   author:   SmokeyMo

Re: criminal compliance???   
The Government want all fathers to feel like criminals, whether you pay or 
not. This is not a new thing, Stalin invented it. It was called 'Rule by 
Terror' the aim being to keep the target group in a state of fear. In this 
state they are much more compliant. The aim of course here being to get 
every penny they can get out of you.

Just as a foot note this policy of rule by terror is doomed to fail as did 
Stalin's but it will probably wreck the lives of many families long before 
it is finally put to rest. We have a government now demonising men, removing 
driving licences curtailing their abilities to earn, Jailing loving fathers 
so they can neither earn nor provide care for their families and insanely 
the debt continues to climb while they are incarcerated. They wish to 
stigmatise dad by name and shame, to discriminate against him in favour of 
mother and now they want to discriminate against him in law by removing his 
passport while any foreign nationals living in the uk cannot have their 
ability to travel stopped, so foreign nationals can travel overseas to watch 
a football or cricket match but UK dad could'nt go to the funeral of his 
dying mother overseas!

The Bastard Hutton also wanted to remove dads home, making him and no doubt 
his children homeless, selling his home to fill the treasury coffers. They 
already steal thousands from fathers and deprive children with the same blow 
by taking the difference collected from dad and money paid to ex's on 
benefit

This is rule by terror make no mistake.

We will have a generation of children who will not fear the state at all, 
they will learn from their fathers to hate the state and the generation 
after them might pull it all down.

All because the government are so pig headed that their last two failed 
systems were correct and should work. You would think after 14 years they 
would realise that the fundamentals are wrong and you would thin it obvious 
that they should put the child at the centre of any support plan but no the 
benefit book is first, the treasury is second the benefits agency is third, 
the ex partner is next and finally in 5th place is the child but even then 
this so called support system has absolutely no interest in whether the 
child is actually supported at all.

Vote ever MP currently in office out at the next election

Some where there must be people who could be MP's and could actually 
organise a piss up in a brewery but the current shower certainly can't.

As to your meeting be sure to take a voice recorder, one it give you proof 
of whats said and secondly they hate it and if they screw up it might end up 
on http://www.onwww.co.uk feel free to send in any more tapes guys.


"SmokeyMo"  wrote in message 
news:1186926649.767331.304680@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> OK so I finally get a letter from "Barry Porter Investigations manager
> CSA S.E. area" asking me to attend an informal interview ( which I
> have no problem with )
>
> Quoting the letter " The CSA has conducted an investigation into your
> maintenance assessment.As a result of this investigation I have some
> questions that I would like to ask you comment on"
>
> So I phoned up to ask if it was anything I could deal with on the
> phone...they answer the phone "criminal compliance" (!) and would not
> give any further information.
>
> I find this all a bit baffling as they used to just send a
> reassessment form out,you fill it in,they send you a payment book,you
> make the payments...end of story.
>
> They have access to all of my income details with or without me so
> what's the big deal?
>
> If I am to pay anything or owe anything I will pay no problem.I have
> never understood the system of CSA payments and have always found it
> completely baffling
>
> Any advice appreciated
>
> Best
>
> SmokeyMo
>
> Any advice appreciated
>
date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:53:07 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: criminal compliance???   
SmokeyMo wrote:
> OK so I finally get a letter from "Barry Porter Investigations manager
> CSA S.E. area" asking me to attend an informal interview ( which I
> have no problem with )
> 
> Quoting the letter " The CSA has conducted an investigation into your
> maintenance assessment.As a result of this investigation I have some
> questions that I would like to ask you comment on"
> 
> So I phoned up to ask if it was anything I could deal with on the
> phone...they answer the phone "criminal compliance" (!) and would not
> give any further information.
> 
> I find this all a bit baffling as they used to just send a
> reassessment form out,you fill it in,they send you a payment book,you
> make the payments...end of story.
> 
> They have access to all of my income details with or without me so
> what's the big deal?
> 
> If I am to pay anything or owe anything I will pay no problem.I have
> never understood the system of CSA payments and have always found it
> completely baffling
> 
> Any advice appreciated
> 
> Best
> 
> SmokeyMo
> 
> Any advice appreciated
> 

Do not attend alone.  Have someone to take notes, and if you feel 
pressured, ask for a break.

Do not answer any questions unless you are 100% sure of the answers.

Marag
date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:44:30 +0100   author:   Marag Dubh

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