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date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:21:38 -0700,    group: uk.gov.agency.csa        back       
Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
- see BBC profile

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm

Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 10:21:38 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Personally I think that this is an unspired choice...

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:02:40 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
inspired or uninspired?

If inspired why?
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 11:49:08 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Will he have the balls to scrap this stupid insane N&S idea?
Will he have the common to understand if one side starts throwing dung we 
all end up in a pile of manure?

Hutton obviously hasn't the brains to realise where all this is going to go. 
The gov want to keep family courts secret, keep paedophiles and rapists 
secret yet they want to name shame and jail loving fathers for what fucking 
money huh!. Did he (they) really think 1.8 million men are going to sit back 
and just simply accept this with no reaction. Hutton isn't fit to be in any 
cabinet if his thinking is that limited.

The question is does Hain think the same? Can he remove this section which 
would be a snub to Hutton but would certainly deescalate what is certainly 
going to be a very intrusive name and shame campaign by us dads, fathers as 
a combined entity. ANYONE REMOTELY CONNECTED WITH CSA is going to have to 
live like an angel and sure as hell better hope they don't have any 
skeletons in their cupboards because it's all going to get dug up and 
spattered on the net. We are rapidly building the vehicle with (shameless 
plug) http://www.onwww.co.uk and its going to be very photographic.

So the ball is firmly in Peters park.

 wrote in message 
news:1183051298.043117.30010@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> As prediced John Hutton moves on, having served his time in the
> Goverment Departtment for Incompetence.  The new man through the
> revolving door is Peter Hain whose biography makes interesting reading
> - see BBC profile
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4037709.stm
>
> Apparently renound for dropping clangers, there is always a chance he
> could slip up and suggest not all dads are deadbeats and
> acknolnowledge that it is he and his fellow MPs who are to blame for
> creating the shambles that is the CSA in the first place..
>
date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:02:11 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: Peter Hain takes over 'The Department of Incompetence'   
Oops.  Uninspired...

 wrote in message 
news:1183056548.407975.213360@q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> inspired or uninspired?
>
> If inspired why?
>
date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:23:35 GMT   author:   Toffee

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