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date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:06:30 +0100,    group: uk.gov.agency.csa        back       
happy fathers day   
Hi all,

Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
£20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
further.
  
Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
of their kids. Thanks

David
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 05:06:30 +0100   author:   David

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

Re: happy fathers day   
Sorry to hear you lost contact but maybe when he's older he'll come back to 
you. I'm lucky, I have a great relationship with my kids. They understand 
all about CSA, how crazy it is and how its all so very very wrong, they have 
lived through this hell with me every step of the way. They understand and 
support my stance on all of this.

Somebody must put his head above the parapet and in here at least, that 
seems to be me.

Joe public is going to have to be fully informed as to how everybody is 
being swindled by this mob, not only for cash but you for the love of your 
child. It's a crime, it's legally justified crime and it's foul and 
disgusting. No doubt I'll get whacked down and crushed, I'm up against the 
government here but maybe behind me the supporting NRPs, the pissed of PWCs, 
the thousands of children, maybe some legal people too will all come and at 
last some of us might get to put to this to rights. Oh if only we had MP's 
with foresight and a spine.

"David"  wrote in message 
news:pan.2007.06.18.04.06.30.29812@hotmail.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Happy fathers day to those of you with no contact with your kids. Day's
> like today are not the easiest I'm sure. -I myself don't see my son
> anymore.  It's quite true that the family courts really don't hold any
> value in the role or purpose of non resident fathers.  After 2 years and
> £20k legal costs on top of maintenance since 2000, I could get no
> further.
>
> Fletcher, I read your posts because they show enthusiasm and energy
> against a huge uphill struggle for dads having to deal with the CSA and
> mothers who care more for their ciggs and wine rather than the interests
> of their kids. Thanks
>
> David
>
>
>
date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:08:14 +0100   author:   Fletcher

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