'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
8 June 2007

Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.

In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.

Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
June.

Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
"Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
as a result.

"It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
reduce their liabilities for their children."

Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
those names on the website and will make fun of those children.

"I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
in payment, not just humiliation."

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


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Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


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I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo

Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a fuck 
about children.

CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by the 
name 'Child support'

If the child lives in abject poverty, half staved and dressed in sack cloth 
and the mother spends all her money on drugs and drink the CSA couldn't give 
a shit so don't think that the idea of kids getting their heads kicked in at 
school is going to make any difference to this agency or to the government 
officials overseeing it for that matter or even the MP's that supposedly are 
responsible for it.


 wrote in message 
news:1181296267.658414.46870@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
> 'Deadbeat Dads' list is bad idea
> 8 June 2007
>
> Charities have said the Government's plans to name and shame people
> who default on child maintenance payments is an ill-conceived idea.
>
> In a new shake-up of the child maintenance payment system, the Child
> Support Agency (CSA) will start sending out letters to lone parents
> asking for permission to publish the names of former partners who have
> defaulted on child maintenance payments on the internet.
>
> Around 100 fathers who have been convicted of withholding information
> from the CSA during the first quarter of 2007 will be targeted in the
> first round, with the publication of names planned for the end of
> June.
>
> Chris Pond, Chief Executive of charity One Parent Families, warned:
> "Naming and shaming ''deadbeat dads'' may grab the headlines, but will
> make little difference to hardcore non-payers and could cause real
> distress to the children involved, who could face bullying at school
> as a result.
>
> "It's no substitute for concerted and systematic action to chase up
> missed payments and to pursue those who lie about their finances to
> reduce their liabilities for their children."
>
> Speaking on Channel 4 News, John Wheatley, Spokesman for Citizens
> Advice, also noted: "There is a risk that other children will see
> those names on the website and will make fun of those children.
>
> "I don't think that's the desired consequence, what we need is money
> in payment, not just humiliation."
>

Fletcher wrote:

>  Yes but Mr Pond forgets one very significant point, CSA don't give a
> fuck about children.
>  
>  CSA is about raking in cash and nothing else, maybe he was fooled by
> the name 'Child support'

Dead right Fletcher. I may actually be in the last half year of my
enslavement to the CSA (well apart from the random arrears figures
which they keep making up) as my daughter intends leaving school this
year as she has just got a job. I have been paying the CSA thousands
of pounds a year since 1993, and how much has my daughter had of that?
Not one penny!
So what happened to her right to 'share in her parents' wealth'? What
happened to ending child poverty? What happened to her right to enjoy
the best upbringing, education and social life which her parents could
provide? All taken from her by the CSA under the guise of 'child
support'. I can't believe that the British people sit back and allow
this abuse to happen :-(


-- 

I'm trying a new usenet client for Mac, Nemo OS X.
You can download it at http://www.malcom-mac.com/nemo