I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
but no.

I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
without my knowledge.  

Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ? 


WhiteDwarf

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.

This might get you started http://www.adoptiontrace.co.uk/

Technically I think one parent is 'supposed' to inform the other parent but 
I believe it's quite easy to fudge, like everything else in this crazy 
country.

As an adult you can call yourself what you like, I think for you child that 
would be 16 or certainly by 18

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?

"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
> but no.
>
> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
> without my knowledge.
>
> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>
>
> WhiteDwarf

I did.  No reply.

I asked only 2 things before handing over the cash:

1) Original birth certificate.
2) Passport.

I got a lot of evasion and then silence.  Birth cert & passport seem
pretty easy to supply - if there is no doubt about your identity.

Last week, I got the result of a DNA test ordered by the MOTHER
proving that daughter 'b' was the full sister of daughter 'a'.  I'm
almost certainly the father of daughter 'a', so the corollary is that
I'm the father of daughter 'b'.  I don't know if the DNA lab sent the
result to me by accident.  I have not disputed that I am the
biological father of daughter 'b', hence getting crucified by the CSA
for the last 19 years, even though the mother cynically moved both
daughters to the other end of the country to frustrate access - a
common enough story.

If the mother can spend £350 on a DNA test, but the daughter cannot
supply a birth cert, what is going on ?

If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).



On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 18:59:46 GMT, "Toffee" 
wrote:

>Can't you just ask her?  She's 19 now?  Wouldn't she know?
>
>"WhiteDwarf"  wrote in message 
>news:a3o5631lkseiidm8rsnj986qbf0rp19gk4@4ax.com...
>> I've been a victim of these incompetent parasites for nearly 19 years
>> now,.  You would think I would be rejoicing at the end of my sentence,
>> but no.
>>
>> I have just had some information which leads me to suspect that the
>> daughter I have been paying for all these years may have been adopted
>> without my knowledge.
>>
>> Does anyone know how to check if a person has been adopted ?
>>
>>
>> WhiteDwarf 
>

> If the girl was adopted, then the thousands I  have sent the CSA were
> probably obtained fraudulently - and I will be looking for payback
> from the mother (although that won't happen, because I'm a bloke).

Still being a bloke has its benefits

Why Are Men Happier

Men Are Just Happier People-- Your last name stays put. The garage is all 
yours. Wedding plans take care of themselves. Chocolate is just another 
snack.
You can never be pregnant. You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. You 
can wear NO shirt to a water park. Car mechanics tell you the truth.

The world is your urinal. You never have to drive to another petrol station 
toilet because this one is just too icky. You don't have to stop and think 
of which way to turn a nut on a bolt. Same work, more pay. Wrinkles add 
character. Wedding dress £2000. Tux rental-£100.

People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.

The occasional well-rendered belch is practically expected. New shoes don't 
cut, blister, or mangle your feet. One mood all the time.  Phone 
conversations are over in 30 seconds flat. You know stuff about tanks.

A five-day holiday requires only one suitcase. You can open all your own 
jars. You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.

If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your friend.

Your underwear is £4.95 for a three-pack. Three pairs of shoes are more than 
enough. You almost never have strap problems in public. You are unable to 
see wrinkles in your clothes. Everything on your face stays its original 
colour. The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.

You only have to shave your face and neck.

You can play with toys all your life. One wallet and one pair of shoes one 
colour for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs look.

You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. You have freedom of choice 
concerning growing a moustache..

You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 minutes.

No wonder men are happier.