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date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:23:21 GMT,    group: uk.gov.agency.csa        back       
Arears??   
I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?

Ta
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 11:23:21 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:34 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
Suspension of debt is not what I was suggesting, although that is a 
possibility.

 wrote in message 
news:1181754034.969422.201190@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:24:39 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I am suggesting that you tread very carefully as, as is so often the
case with the CSA, not all is as it seams or what the CSA would often
have you believe.  Many of those the CSA employ are either poorly
trained, do not understand the legislation or how it applies in
practice (which is so complex and incomprehsible is perhaps no
surprise) or will tell you things that are not correct.

What you need from the CSA is a guarentee that the arrears have been
wiped out and to be supplied with the necessary documentation to
ensure that  you can apply to court to have the court record marked as
the debt being settled which will help to repair your credit rating.
Suspension of the arrears will not do that, then again as long as the
debt has not been paid in full it will remain on the record even if
the debt was incorrectly calculated.

In short, as long as the LO exists you are legally liable for it and
the CSA are legally entitled to take whatever steps are avaialable to
them in law to recover the debt.  This is a priority debt which takes
precidents over most other debts.  To my knowledge even bankrupcy will
not effect the persons liability which is not limited in the same way
that a Limited Company would be if it fell into debt when much of the
debt would simply be written off.   Even fathers who are sent to jail
are still liable for the debt - it is not a case of go to jail or pay
but go to jail and you still have to pay up.

However, if the mother instructs the CSA not to enforce collection
they may leave you alone are they have plenty of other cases to work
on.  There are many fathers who are victims of CSA incompetence who
would settle for that.   Do watch out in case it is a CSA ambush to
get you to unwittingly default on your payments.  This allows them to
re-classify you as a non-compliant (dead-beat) father giving them the
excuse to get heavy handed.

I do not wish to put a damper on it and I hope it works out for you.
However, it pays to be cautious where the CSA are concerned - few
things are what as they seem where they are concerned and if there is
one thing the CSA are competent at, it is deception.

Best of luck with it.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:50:06 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:34 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
Suspension of debt is not what I was suggesting, although that is a 
possibility.

 wrote in message 
news:1181754034.969422.201190@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:24:39 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I am suggesting that you tread very carefully as, as is so often the
case with the CSA, not all is as it seams or what the CSA would often
have you believe.  Many of those the CSA employ are either poorly
trained, do not understand the legislation or how it applies in
practice (which is so complex and incomprehsible is perhaps no
surprise) or will tell you things that are not correct.

What you need from the CSA is a guarentee that the arrears have been
wiped out and to be supplied with the necessary documentation to
ensure that  you can apply to court to have the court record marked as
the debt being settled which will help to repair your credit rating.
Suspension of the arrears will not do that, then again as long as the
debt has not been paid in full it will remain on the record even if
the debt was incorrectly calculated.

In short, as long as the LO exists you are legally liable for it and
the CSA are legally entitled to take whatever steps are avaialable to
them in law to recover the debt.  This is a priority debt which takes
precidents over most other debts.  To my knowledge even bankrupcy will
not effect the persons liability which is not limited in the same way
that a Limited Company would be if it fell into debt when much of the
debt would simply be written off.   Even fathers who are sent to jail
are still liable for the debt - it is not a case of go to jail or pay
but go to jail and you still have to pay up.

However, if the mother instructs the CSA not to enforce collection
they may leave you alone are they have plenty of other cases to work
on.  There are many fathers who are victims of CSA incompetence who
would settle for that.   Do watch out in case it is a CSA ambush to
get you to unwittingly default on your payments.  This allows them to
re-classify you as a non-compliant (dead-beat) father giving them the
excuse to get heavy handed.

I do not wish to put a damper on it and I hope it works out for you.
However, it pays to be cautious where the CSA are concerned - few
things are what as they seem where they are concerned and if there is
one thing the CSA are competent at, it is deception.

Best of luck with it.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:50:06 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:34 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
Suspension of debt is not what I was suggesting, although that is a 
possibility.

 wrote in message 
news:1181754034.969422.201190@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:24:39 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I am suggesting that you tread very carefully as, as is so often the
case with the CSA, not all is as it seams or what the CSA would often
have you believe.  Many of those the CSA employ are either poorly
trained, do not understand the legislation or how it applies in
practice (which is so complex and incomprehsible is perhaps no
surprise) or will tell you things that are not correct.

What you need from the CSA is a guarentee that the arrears have been
wiped out and to be supplied with the necessary documentation to
ensure that  you can apply to court to have the court record marked as
the debt being settled which will help to repair your credit rating.
Suspension of the arrears will not do that, then again as long as the
debt has not been paid in full it will remain on the record even if
the debt was incorrectly calculated.

In short, as long as the LO exists you are legally liable for it and
the CSA are legally entitled to take whatever steps are avaialable to
them in law to recover the debt.  This is a priority debt which takes
precidents over most other debts.  To my knowledge even bankrupcy will
not effect the persons liability which is not limited in the same way
that a Limited Company would be if it fell into debt when much of the
debt would simply be written off.   Even fathers who are sent to jail
are still liable for the debt - it is not a case of go to jail or pay
but go to jail and you still have to pay up.

However, if the mother instructs the CSA not to enforce collection
they may leave you alone are they have plenty of other cases to work
on.  There are many fathers who are victims of CSA incompetence who
would settle for that.   Do watch out in case it is a CSA ambush to
get you to unwittingly default on your payments.  This allows them to
re-classify you as a non-compliant (dead-beat) father giving them the
excuse to get heavy handed.

I do not wish to put a damper on it and I hope it works out for you.
However, it pays to be cautious where the CSA are concerned - few
things are what as they seem where they are concerned and if there is
one thing the CSA are competent at, it is deception.

Best of luck with it.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:50:06 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:34 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
Suspension of debt is not what I was suggesting, although that is a 
possibility.

 wrote in message 
news:1181754034.969422.201190@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:24:39 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I am suggesting that you tread very carefully as, as is so often the
case with the CSA, not all is as it seams or what the CSA would often
have you believe.  Many of those the CSA employ are either poorly
trained, do not understand the legislation or how it applies in
practice (which is so complex and incomprehsible is perhaps no
surprise) or will tell you things that are not correct.

What you need from the CSA is a guarentee that the arrears have been
wiped out and to be supplied with the necessary documentation to
ensure that  you can apply to court to have the court record marked as
the debt being settled which will help to repair your credit rating.
Suspension of the arrears will not do that, then again as long as the
debt has not been paid in full it will remain on the record even if
the debt was incorrectly calculated.

In short, as long as the LO exists you are legally liable for it and
the CSA are legally entitled to take whatever steps are avaialable to
them in law to recover the debt.  This is a priority debt which takes
precidents over most other debts.  To my knowledge even bankrupcy will
not effect the persons liability which is not limited in the same way
that a Limited Company would be if it fell into debt when much of the
debt would simply be written off.   Even fathers who are sent to jail
are still liable for the debt - it is not a case of go to jail or pay
but go to jail and you still have to pay up.

However, if the mother instructs the CSA not to enforce collection
they may leave you alone are they have plenty of other cases to work
on.  There are many fathers who are victims of CSA incompetence who
would settle for that.   Do watch out in case it is a CSA ambush to
get you to unwittingly default on your payments.  This allows them to
re-classify you as a non-compliant (dead-beat) father giving them the
excuse to get heavy handed.

I do not wish to put a damper on it and I hope it works out for you.
However, it pays to be cautious where the CSA are concerned - few
things are what as they seem where they are concerned and if there is
one thing the CSA are competent at, it is deception.

Best of luck with it.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:50:06 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

-- 
WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied and
is subject to errors and omissions
"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:34 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
Suspension of debt is not what I was suggesting, although that is a 
possibility.

 wrote in message 
news:1181754034.969422.201190@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 20:24:39 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I am suggesting that you tread very carefully as, as is so often the
case with the CSA, not all is as it seams or what the CSA would often
have you believe.  Many of those the CSA employ are either poorly
trained, do not understand the legislation or how it applies in
practice (which is so complex and incomprehsible is perhaps no
surprise) or will tell you things that are not correct.

What you need from the CSA is a guarentee that the arrears have been
wiped out and to be supplied with the necessary documentation to
ensure that  you can apply to court to have the court record marked as
the debt being settled which will help to repair your credit rating.
Suspension of the arrears will not do that, then again as long as the
debt has not been paid in full it will remain on the record even if
the debt was incorrectly calculated.

In short, as long as the LO exists you are legally liable for it and
the CSA are legally entitled to take whatever steps are avaialable to
them in law to recover the debt.  This is a priority debt which takes
precidents over most other debts.  To my knowledge even bankrupcy will
not effect the persons liability which is not limited in the same way
that a Limited Company would be if it fell into debt when much of the
debt would simply be written off.   Even fathers who are sent to jail
are still liable for the debt - it is not a case of go to jail or pay
but go to jail and you still have to pay up.

However, if the mother instructs the CSA not to enforce collection
they may leave you alone are they have plenty of other cases to work
on.  There are many fathers who are victims of CSA incompetence who
would settle for that.   Do watch out in case it is a CSA ambush to
get you to unwittingly default on your payments.  This allows them to
re-classify you as a non-compliant (dead-beat) father giving them the
excuse to get heavy handed.

I do not wish to put a damper on it and I hope it works out for you.
However, it pays to be cautious where the CSA are concerned - few
things are what as they seem where they are concerned and if there is
one thing the CSA are competent at, it is deception.

Best of luck with it.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:50:06 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the arrears 
on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on benefit - 
then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will continue to 
chase you for them.

Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
the debt accrued and over what period.

NACSA CHAIR

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Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
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"andy c"  wrote in message 
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>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for arrears?
>
> Ta
>
date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 20:13:08 GMT   author:   NACSA CHAIR

Re: Arears??   
From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now nearly 
£3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few payments (I 
repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)

Ta

Andy

"NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
> continue to chase you for them.
>
> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of how 
> the debt accrued and over what period.
>
> NACSA CHAIR
>
> -- 
> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 4454, 
> Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
> and
> is subject to errors and omissions
> "andy c"  wrote in message 
> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>arrears?
>>
>> Ta
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:04:52 GMT   author:   andy c

Re: Arears??   
If she's not on benefits, ask her to say that she's received the arrears as 
direct payments.

"andy c"  wrote in message 
news:UHZai.11314$sM1.10077@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> From what I gather she has never claimed benefits, and I have asked for an 
> accounts breakdown from them,  5 years  ago I had £1500 arrears, now 
> nearly £3000!!!! on phone they said it is because I have missed a few 
> payments (I repay £75 a month plus £20 arrears)
>
> Ta
>
> Andy
>
> "NACSA CHAIR"  wrote in message 
> news:oRDai.2271$p8.480@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> if the arrears are due to her then she can ask the CSA to cancel the 
>> arrears on the account.  If however the debt accrued whilst she was on 
>> benefit - then the debt is owed to the Treasury, and as such, CSA will 
>> continue to chase you for them.
>>
>> Have you verified the debt is correct - not many accounts are!!  if you 
>> dispute the amount, ask them to provide you with a full explanation of 
>> how the debt accrued and over what period.
>>
>> NACSA CHAIR
>>
>> -- 
>> WHEN CSA GET IT WRONG...NACSA PUT IT RIGHT!!! www.nacsa.co.uk PO BOX 
>> 4454, Dudley West Midlands, DY1 9AN  FAX 01384 343966
>> Disclaimer: the content of this email is based upon information supplied 
>> and
>> is subject to errors and omissions
>> "andy c"  wrote in message 
>> news:J4wai.8015$E9.5898@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>I have a lot of arrears, but if my ex (who is in full time employement) 
>>>tells CSA she does not want to carry on will I still be liable for 
>>>arrears?
>>>
>>> Ta
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 21:09:44 GMT   author:   Toffee

Re: Arears??   
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my house and give you £15,000 now in full
and final settlement.  The mother could say 'Yes I will agree to
that', and the day after you paid the £15,000 she could instruct the
CSA to collect the other £5,000 and they have to do just that.

The suggestion was there would be provision in the Bill currently
going through Parliament to address this but I do not know whether it
will.

In short, I believe you will need to obtain a legally recognised
statement from the CSA stating the debt has been irrevocably met/
cancelled - you will need some such statement to apply to Court to
have the official CCJ records marked as the debt  settled.  If you can
manage that then I do not belive they can have recourse to re-
establish it in the future.  That said, this is the CSA we are dealing
with and as many listing on this site prove - they can and will cook
up supposed arrears at will and there is no provision in the Legal
system to challenge them unless you have bottomless pockets.
date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:00:34 -0700   author:   unknown

Re: Arears??   
Suspension of debt is not what I was suggesting, although that is a 
possibility.

 wrote in message 
news:1181754034.969422.201190@g37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I anm not sure that the information here is wholly correct in Law.

If the debt has been established in Law by means of a Liability Order
then it cannot be simply written off in the way suggested.   It may be
that the PWC asks the CSA to suspend collection of it, but  that does
not mean it is written off.  If she falls on hard times or changes her
mind at sometime in the future the CSA (or its replacement) are
mandated to collect the debt outstanding.  This has, I understand,
been a long standing problem with the current Legislation because it
prevents negotiation/agreement.  For example, say you owed £20,000 .
You could say I will sell my h