On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:08:49 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
 wrote:

>On Sep 5, 10:40 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 00:13:23 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Sep 4, 11:54 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:52:11 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >On Sep 4, 12:01 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:29:01 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >On Sep 4, 12:46 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:20:17 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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>> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Sep 3, 4:49 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:46:57 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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>> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 3, 11:21 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:06:24 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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>> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 3, 12:29 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:09:48 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 2, 4:27 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 05:04:18 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 2, 12:43 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 23:09:44 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 1, 10:41 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:40:27 +0100, Malcolm
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >In article ,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:35:37 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>On Aug 30, 11:15 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:56:07 +0100, Malcolm
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>  wrote:
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >In article ,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:33:19 +0100, "Bob Seago" 
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>wrote:
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/news/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&cate
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>gory=News&tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=news&itemid=IPED28%20Aug%202008%20
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>17%3A06%3A59%3A443
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>All one line.
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Obviously to do with climate change since they're plentiful in warmer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>climes.
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Bwahahahahaha!!
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >You do just love to expose your ignorance, don't you?
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Please elaborate on your "warmer climes". Which countries had you in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >mind when you said that?
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> You're showing your ignorance, Malcolm.
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Bitterns breed in Europe, North Africa and central Asia.
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Spain and N. Africa have very few, the latter at just one site. Sweden
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>has more than Britain - the limits of the world distribution are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>roughly 40 N to 60 N. Hardly warmer climes. So who's showing their
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>ignorance, eh? Hint: look in the mirror.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bitterns breed in the following countries:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Albania
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Austria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Belarus
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Belarus
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bosnia and Herzegovina
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Britain
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bulgaria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Croatia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Czech Republic
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Denmark
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Estonia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Finland
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>France
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Germany
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Greece
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hungary
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Italy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Latvia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Lithuania
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Macedonia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Moldova
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Netherlands
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Poland
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Portugal
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Romania
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Russia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Serbia and Montenegro
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Slovakia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Slovenia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Spain
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Sweden
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Turkey
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Ukraine
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>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Many a lot warmer than here.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Which ones in the above list are warmer than UK? Why have you left out
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Belgium, despite the fact that Bitterns breed there?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> France for a start and you can add Belgium if you want.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nope. Average winter temperatures are lower than any in Britain for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >many localities in both countries.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like where?  Please be more specific.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >How about Bourg-Madame, the town furthest south in France.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Are there Bitterns there?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Yup. They live in caves, feeding on Isard, Marmot and the corpses of
>> >> >> >> >> >> >skiers killed in avalanches.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> And out of date scientists, no doubt.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >Nope. Bitterns are known to be very assiduous in checking the sell-by
>> >> >> >> >> >dates of everything they eat.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Count your blessings at being past your sell-by date.
>>
>> >> >> >> >Yup. They're savage bugg*rs when they're roused. I heard the US State
>> >> >> >> >Dept. tried to hire one to get King Kong off the top of the Empire
>> >> >> >> >State building. But as you doubtless know, the job had to be done in
>> >> >> >> >the end by Navy fly-boys.
>>
>> >> >> >> I heard the Bitterns got there first.
>>
>> >> >> >> And by the way, what's this with "yup and nope"?  Do you have an
>> >> >> >> English language problem?
>>
>> >> >> >> Let's get serious.  Where are the Bitterns in France?  Are you hiding
>> >> >> >> behind a facade of nonsense
>>
>> >> >> >I'll now leave that to you, as I cannot hope to compete with you on
>> >> >> >level terms in this regard, however silly I make my posts.
>>
>> >> >> You don't have to try to make them silly - they all are.
>>
>> >> >In as much as they all contain quotes of your idiotic rambling, this
>> >> >must be an obvious truth.
>>
>> >> What quotes?
>>
>> >> >> >> to hide your inability to confirm that
>> >> >> >> they might only habit warmer parts?    Seems to me that reed beds will
>> >> >> >> only be in the lower and warmer areas in France, perhaps like the
>> >> >> >> Carmargue.
>>
>> >> >> >So you have finally decided it is time to read up on the natural
>> >> >> >history of the Bittern. About time too.
>>
>> >> >> Not me.  More to do with my time.
>>
>> >> >OK. That's fine. But you should not be posting on subjects about which
>> >> >to are ignorant, should you? So off you go and good riddance.
>>
>> >> Seems I'm in good company with you and MO who seem to share that
>> >> ignorance :-)
>>
>> >> >> > Now you need to read up on the
>> >> >> >natural history of 'Phragmites australis'
>>
>> >> >> Not me.  More to do with my time.
>>
>> >> >OK. That's fine. But you should not be posting on subjects about which
>> >> >to are ignorant, should you? So off you go and good riddance.
>>
>> >> See above.
>>
>> >> What about nope and yup?
>>
>> >Excellent substitutes for 'no' and 'yes' when one wants to distinguish
>> >a jocular response from a serious one on Usenet. Emoticons are getting
>> >a bit 'passé', don't you think?
>>
>> Perhaps for people like you.
>>
>>
>>
>> >Real language evolves. That's what makes it interesting - not the
>> >awful, tedious, grammatical farting and tap dancing we had to learn at
>> >school. As much as we love to hate American mangling of English
>> >language, there is no doubt they have brought new life to the way it
>> >is used colloquially.
>>
>> Of course it evolves like everything we do but it's definitely not for
>> the better.  May kids now leave school hardly able to make themselves
>> understood.
>>
>> Angus Macmillanwww.roots-of-blood.org.ukwww.killhunting.orgwww.con-servation.org.uk
>>
>> All truth passes through three stages:
>> First, it is ridiculed;
>> Second, it is violently opposed; and
>> Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
>> -- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)


So you spotted my typo?

:-)))))))))))))))))


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)