As one who professes to know precisely where every Bittern is breeding
in the UK one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been
good enough to attend this conference to give the "experts" the
benefit of  unqualified knowledge. 

http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls

The following is an Internet exchange which took place on 31/08/08 on
the uk.environment.conservation newsgroup between Dr Malcolm Ogilvie,
a senior scientific adviser to Scottish Natural Heritage, and Angus
Macmillan.

Dr Ogilvie:
"I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in England".

Angus Macmillan:
"So where "precisely" do they breed in England or do you only know
where some breed?  The inference is you know where they all breed."

Dr Ogilvie:
"That is a correct inference"

The link above gives the email addresses of experts who have missed
out so perhaps Dr Ogilvie would be kind enough to reveal to them the
benefit of his knowledge and save the Bittern organisation the bother
of having to ask the public for details of sighting or hearings.

If not, I shall be delighted to forward this post the to the "experts"
and the Bittern organisation themselves.  


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>
>As one who professes to know precisely where every Bittern is breeding
>in the UK one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been
>good enough to attend this conference to give the "experts" the
>benefit of  unqualified knowledge.
>
>http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls
>
>The following is an Internet exchange which took place on 31/08/08 on
>the uk.environment.conservation newsgroup between Dr Malcolm Ogilvie,
>a senior scientific adviser to Scottish Natural Heritage, and Angus
>Macmillan.
>
>Dr Ogilvie:
>"I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in England".
>
>Angus Macmillan:
>"So where "precisely" do they breed in England or do you only know
>where some breed?  The inference is you know where they all breed."
>
>Dr Ogilvie:
>"That is a correct inference"
>
>The link above gives the email addresses of experts who have missed
>out so perhaps Dr Ogilvie would be kind enough to reveal to them the
>benefit of his knowledge and save the Bittern organisation the bother
>of having to ask the public for details of sighting or hearings.
>
>If not, I shall be delighted to forward this post the to the "experts"
>and the Bittern organisation themselves.
>
>
Oh look, old age is fast catching up on Angus, such that he has posted 
two different versions of the same message within an hour and a half!!

Perhaps you should have gone to bed earlier :-))

-- 
Malcolm

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:58:14 +0100, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>
>>As one who professes to know precisely where every Bittern is breeding
>>in the UK one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been
>>good enough to attend this conference to give the "experts" the
>>benefit of  unqualified knowledge.
>>
>>http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls
>>
>>The following is an Internet exchange which took place on 31/08/08 on
>>the uk.environment.conservation newsgroup between Dr Malcolm Ogilvie,
>>a senior scientific adviser to Scottish Natural Heritage, and Angus
>>Macmillan.
>>
>>Dr Ogilvie:
>>"I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in England".
>>
>>Angus Macmillan:
>>"So where "precisely" do they breed in England or do you only know
>>where some breed?  The inference is you know where they all breed."
>>
>>Dr Ogilvie:
>>"That is a correct inference"
>>
>>The link above gives the email addresses of experts who have missed
>>out so perhaps Dr Ogilvie would be kind enough to reveal to them the
>>benefit of his knowledge and save the Bittern organisation the bother
>>of having to ask the public for details of sighting or hearings.
>>
>>If not, I shall be delighted to forward this post the to the "experts"
>>and the Bittern organisation themselves.
>>
>>
>Oh look, old age is fast catching up on Angus, such that he has posted 
>two different versions of the same message within an hour and a half!!
>
>Perhaps you should have gone to bed earlier :-))

I posted one that didn't go through so I did another and lo and behold
they both appeared this morning :-)

cyberspace mystery.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:58:14 +0100, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>
>>>As one who professes to know precisely where every Bittern is breeding
>>>in the UK one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been
>>>good enough to attend this conference to give the "experts" the
>>>benefit of  unqualified knowledge.
>>>
>>>http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls
>>>
>>>The following is an Internet exchange which took place on 31/08/08 on
>>>the uk.environment.conservation newsgroup between Dr Malcolm Ogilvie,
>>>a senior scientific adviser to Scottish Natural Heritage, and Angus
>>>Macmillan.
>>>
>>>Dr Ogilvie:
>>>"I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in England".
>>>
>>>Angus Macmillan:
>>>"So where "precisely" do they breed in England or do you only know
>>>where some breed?  The inference is you know where they all breed."
>>>
>>>Dr Ogilvie:
>>>"That is a correct inference"
>>>
>>>The link above gives the email addresses of experts who have missed
>>>out so perhaps Dr Ogilvie would be kind enough to reveal to them the
>>>benefit of his knowledge and save the Bittern organisation the bother
>>>of having to ask the public for details of sighting or hearings.
>>>
>>>If not, I shall be delighted to forward this post the to the "experts"
>>>and the Bittern organisation themselves.
>>>
>>>
>>Oh look, old age is fast catching up on Angus, such that he has posted
>>two different versions of the same message within an hour and a half!!
>>
>>Perhaps you should have gone to bed earlier :-))
>
>I posted one that didn't go through so I did another and lo and behold
>they both appeared this morning :-)
>
>cyberspace mystery.
>
No mystery, just old age :-))

-- 
Malcolm

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 16:47:49 +0100, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:58:14 +0100, Malcolm
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>
>>>>As one who professes to know precisely where every Bittern is breeding
>>>>in the UK one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been
>>>>good enough to attend this conference to give the "experts" the
>>>>benefit of  unqualified knowledge.
>>>>
>>>>http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls
>>>>
>>>>The following is an Internet exchange which took place on 31/08/08 on
>>>>the uk.environment.conservation newsgroup between Dr Malcolm Ogilvie,
>>>>a senior scientific adviser to Scottish Natural Heritage, and Angus
>>>>Macmillan.
>>>>
>>>>Dr Ogilvie:
>>>>"I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in England".
>>>>
>>>>Angus Macmillan:
>>>>"So where "precisely" do they breed in England or do you only know
>>>>where some breed?  The inference is you know where they all breed."
>>>>
>>>>Dr Ogilvie:
>>>>"That is a correct inference"
>>>>
>>>>The link above gives the email addresses of experts who have missed
>>>>out so perhaps Dr Ogilvie would be kind enough to reveal to them the
>>>>benefit of his knowledge and save the Bittern organisation the bother
>>>>of having to ask the public for details of sighting or hearings.
>>>>
>>>>If not, I shall be delighted to forward this post the to the "experts"
>>>>and the Bittern organisation themselves.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Oh look, old age is fast catching up on Angus, such that he has posted
>>>two different versions of the same message within an hour and a half!!
>>>
>>>Perhaps you should have gone to bed earlier :-))
>>
>>I posted one that didn't go through so I did another and lo and behold
>>they both appeared this morning :-)
>>
>>cyberspace mystery.
>>
>No mystery, just old age :-))

You've a bilge full of prejudice, Malcolm.

You're prejudiced against non-natives, people with low academic
qualification, menial task workers and old age.

You really are a bagful of joy.

You'll be old yourself someday in the past :-))

 
Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)