In article , 
As one who professes to know where every booming Bittern is in the UK
one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been at this
conference to give the "experts" the benefit of his knowledge.

http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls

In a recent Internet exchange Dr Malcolm Ogilvie, a senior scientific
adviser boasts, "I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in
England". 
 
Angus Macmillan responded, "So where "precisely" do they breed in
England or do you only know where some breed?  The inference is you
know where they all breed.

Malcolm Ogilvie replied, "That is a correct inference".

As all the "experts'"  emails are shown on the above link why don't
you tell them where every breeding Bittern is in England to save the
bitterns  group from having to ask the public to report sightings or
hearings?  It would save them a lot of bother.

Or will I email them for you to advise them of your unqualified
knowledge?





Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>In article ,
>As one who professes to know where every booming Bittern is in the UK
>one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been at this
>conference to give the "experts" the benefit of his knowledge.
>
>http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls
>
>In a recent Internet exchange Dr Malcolm Ogilvie, a senior scientific
>adviser boasts, "I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in
>England".
>
>Angus Macmillan responded, "So where "precisely" do they breed in
>England or do you only know where some breed?  The inference is you
>know where they all breed.
>
>Malcolm Ogilvie replied, "That is a correct inference".
>
>As all the "experts'"  emails are shown on the above link why don't
>you tell them where every breeding Bittern is in England to save the
>bitterns  group from having to ask the public to report sightings or
>hearings?  It would save them a lot of bother.
>
>Or will I email them for you to advise them of your unqualified
>knowledge?
>
Bwahahahahaha!!

Realising that you've dug a deep hole for yourself by embarking on a 
discussion of Bitterns without knowing a thing about them, you decided 
to Google for information. But, typically, you are clearly unable to 
understand what you've come up with :-))

Even you may have noticed that there are over 20 members of RSPB staff 
in that list, but you very obviously failed to notice that several of 
them, as well as other people, are noted as being from various reserves. 
Why do you think those particular people from those particular places 
were at the conference, Angus?

And which organisation do you think organises the annual census of 
Bitterns? And how many reports from members of the public do you think 
are received from sites not already known to that organisation?

Your profound ignorance about Bitterns is just further exposed with this 
message. Still, do carry on, it's good to educate you, as I have to so 
often.

-- 
Malcolm

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:03:26 +0100, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>In article ,
>>As one who professes to know where every booming Bittern is in the UK
>>one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been at this
>>conference to give the "experts" the benefit of his knowledge.
>>
>>http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls
>>
>>In a recent Internet exchange Dr Malcolm Ogilvie, a senior scientific
>>adviser boasts, "I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in
>>England".
>>
>>Angus Macmillan responded, "So where "precisely" do they breed in
>>England or do you only know where some breed?  The inference is you
>>know where they all breed.
>>
>>Malcolm Ogilvie replied, "That is a correct inference".
>>
>>As all the "experts'"  emails are shown on the above link why don't
>>you tell them where every breeding Bittern is in England to save the
>>bitterns  group from having to ask the public to report sightings or
>>hearings?  It would save them a lot of bother.
>>
>>Or will I email them for you to advise them of your unqualified
>>knowledge?
>>
>Bwahahahahaha!!

Well are you going to email them or shall I? 

>
>Realising that you've dug a deep hole for yourself by embarking on a 
>discussion of Bitterns without knowing a thing about them, you decided 
>to Google for information. But, typically, you are clearly unable to 
>understand what you've come up with :-))
>
>Even you may have noticed that there are over 20 members of RSPB staff 
>in that list, but you very obviously failed to notice that several of 
>them, as well as other people, are noted as being from various reserves. 
>Why do you think those particular people from those particular places 
>were at the conference, Angus?

What I noticed were that most involved would be in the nature
exploitation industry.

>
>And which organisation do you think organises the annual census of 
>Bitterns? And how many reports from members of the public do you think 
>are received from sites not already known to that organisation?

So you admit that the organisations will not know of all the sites.
But you say you do.  So why not email them and tell them.  There's a
good boy. 

>
>Your profound ignorance about Bitterns is just further exposed with this 
>message. Still, do carry on, it's good to educate you, as I have to so 
>often.

Email them and tell them you know something no-one else does.

Or shall I?


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:03:26 +0100, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>In article ,
>>>As one who professes to know where every booming Bittern is in the UK
>>>one would at least think Dr Malcolm Ogilvie might have been at this
>>>conference to give the "experts" the benefit of his knowledge.
>>>
>>>http://www.bitterns.org.uk/files/attendeelogsheetdec2005conference.xls
>>>
>>>In a recent Internet exchange Dr Malcolm Ogilvie, a senior scientific
>>>adviser boasts, "I happen to know precisely where Bitterns breed in
>>>England".
>>>
>>>Angus Macmillan responded, "So where "precisely" do they breed in
>>>England or do you only know where some breed?  The inference is you
>>>know where they all breed.
>>>
>>>Malcolm Ogilvie replied, "That is a correct inference".
>>>
>>>As all the "experts'"  emails are shown on the above link why don't
>>>you tell them where every breeding Bittern is in England to save the
>>>bitterns  group from having to ask the public to report sightings or
>>>hearings?  It would save them a lot of bother.
>>>
>>>Or will I email them for you to advise them of your unqualified
>>>knowledge?
>>>
>>Bwahahahahaha!!
>
>Well are you going to email them or shall I?
>
See below.

>>
>>Realising that you've dug a deep hole for yourself by embarking on a
>>discussion of Bitterns without knowing a thing about them, you decided
>>to Google for information. But, typically, you are clearly unable to
>>understand what you've come up with :-))
>>
>>Even you may have noticed that there are over 20 members of RSPB staff
>>in that list, but you very obviously failed to notice that several of
>>them, as well as other people, are noted as being from various reserves.
>>Why do you think those particular people from those particular places
>>were at the conference, Angus?
>
>What I noticed were that most involved would be in the nature
>exploitation industry.
>
No, you didn't, because they aren't. You're lying again.
>>
>>And which organisation do you think organises the annual census of
>>Bitterns? And how many reports from members of the public do you think
>>are received from sites not already known to that organisation?
>
>So you admit that the organisations will not know of all the sites.

No I admit nothing of the sort. I asked you how many reports from 
members of the public do *you* think are received from sites not already 
known to the RSPB. Can't you work out the answer?

>But you say you do.

The RSPB does. I do. Many other people do.

> So why not email them and tell them.

Because they already know, though you seem incapable of working that out 
for yourself.

>>
>>Your profound ignorance about Bitterns is just further exposed with this
>>message. Still, do carry on, it's good to educate you, as I have to so
>>often.
>
>Email them and tell them you know something no-one else does.
>
Your powers of comprehension, never wonderful, appear to have left you 
altogether.

See above for information on who knows where all the breeding Bitterns 
are.

-- 
Malcolm