On Sep 3, 11:21 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:06:24 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >On Sep 3, 12:29 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:09:48 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >On Sep 2, 4:27 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 05:04:18 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >On Sep 2, 12:43 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 23:09:44 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Sep 1, 10:41 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:40:27 +0100, Malcolm
>
> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >In article ,
> >> >> >> >> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >> >> >> >> >>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:35:37 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>On Aug 30, 11:15 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:56:07 +0100, Malcolm
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>>  wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >In article ,
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:33:19 +0100, "Bob Seago" 
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/news/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&cate
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>gory=News&tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=news&itemid=IPED28%20Aug%202008%20
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>17%3A06%3A59%3A443
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>All one line.
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Obviously to do with climate change since they're plentiful in warmer
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>climes.
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Bwahahahahaha!!
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >You do just love to expose your ignorance, don't you?
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Please elaborate on your "warmer climes". Which countries had you in
> >> >> >> >> >>>> >mind when you said that?
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> You're showing your ignorance, Malcolm.
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>> Bitterns breed in Europe, North Africa and central Asia.
>
> >> >> >> >> >>>Spain and N. Africa have very few, the latter at just one site. Sweden
> >> >> >> >> >>>has more than Britain - the limits of the world distribution are
> >> >> >> >> >>>roughly 40 N to 60 N. Hardly warmer climes. So who's showing their
> >> >> >> >> >>>ignorance, eh? Hint: look in the mirror.
>
> >> >> >> >> >>Bitterns breed in the following countries:
>
> >> >> >> >> >>Albania
> >> >> >> >> >>Austria
> >> >> >> >> >>Belarus
> >> >> >> >> >>Belarus
> >> >> >> >> >>Bosnia and Herzegovina
> >> >> >> >> >>Britain
> >> >> >> >> >>Bulgaria
> >> >> >> >> >>Croatia
> >> >> >> >> >>Czech Republic
> >> >> >> >> >>Denmark
> >> >> >> >> >>Estonia
> >> >> >> >> >>Finland
> >> >> >> >> >>France
> >> >> >> >> >>Germany
> >> >> >> >> >>Greece
> >> >> >> >> >>Hungary
> >> >> >> >> >>Italy
> >> >> >> >> >>Latvia
> >> >> >> >> >>Lithuania
> >> >> >> >> >>Macedonia
> >> >> >> >> >>Moldova
> >> >> >> >> >>Netherlands
> >> >> >> >> >>Poland
> >> >> >> >> >>Portugal
> >> >> >> >> >>Romania
> >> >> >> >> >>Russia
> >> >> >> >> >>Serbia and Montenegro
> >> >> >> >> >>Slovakia
> >> >> >> >> >>Slovenia
> >> >> >> >> >>Spain
> >> >> >> >> >>Sweden
> >> >> >> >> >>Turkey
> >> >> >> >> >>Ukraine
>
> >> >> >> >> >>Many a lot warmer than here.
>
> >> >> >> >Which ones in the above list are warmer than UK? Why have you left out
> >> >> >> >Belgium, despite the fact that Bitterns breed there?
>
> >> >> >> France for a start and you can add Belgium if you want.
>
> >> >> >Nope. Average winter temperatures are lower than any in Britain for
> >> >> >many localities in both countries.
>
> >> >> Like where?  Please be more specific.
>
> >> >How about Bourg-Madame, the town furthest south in France.
>
> >> Are there Bitterns there?
>
> >Yup. They live in caves, feeding on Isard, Marmot and the corpses of
> >skiers killed in avalanches.
>
> And out of date scientists, no doubt.

Nope. Bitterns are known to be very assiduous in checking the sell-by
dates of everything they eat.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:52:11 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
 wrote:

>On Sep 4, 12:01 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:29:01 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Sep 4, 12:46 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:20:17 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >On Sep 3, 4:49 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:46:57 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>>
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >On Sep 3, 11:21 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:06:24 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>>
>> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Sep 3, 12:29 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:09:48 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>>
>> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 2, 4:27 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 05:04:18 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 2, 12:43 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 23:09:44 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 1, 10:41 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:40:27 +0100, Malcolm
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >In article ,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:35:37 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>On Aug 30, 11:15 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:56:07 +0100, Malcolm
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>  wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >In article ,
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:33:19 +0100, "Bob Seago" 
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/news/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&cate
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>gory=News&tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=news&itemid=IPED28%20Aug%202008%20
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>17%3A06%3A59%3A443
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>All one line.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Obviously to do with climate change since they're plentiful in warmer
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>climes.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Bwahahahahaha!!
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >You do just love to expose your ignorance, don't you?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Please elaborate on your "warmer climes". Which countries had you in
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >mind when you said that?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> You're showing your ignorance, Malcolm.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Bitterns breed in Europe, North Africa and central Asia.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Spain and N. Africa have very few, the latter at just one site. Sweden
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>has more than Britain - the limits of the world distribution are
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>roughly 40 N to 60 N. Hardly warmer climes. So who's showing their
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>ignorance, eh? Hint: look in the mirror.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bitterns breed in the following countries:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Albania
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Austria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Belarus
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Belarus
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bosnia and Herzegovina
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Britain
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bulgaria
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Croatia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Czech Republic
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Denmark
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Estonia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Finland
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>France
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Germany
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Greece
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hungary
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Italy
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Latvia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Lithuania
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Macedonia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Moldova
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Netherlands
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Poland
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Portugal
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Romania
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Russia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Serbia and Montenegro
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Slovakia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Slovenia
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Spain
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Sweden
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Turkey
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Ukraine
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Many a lot warmer than here.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Which ones in the above list are warmer than UK? Why have you left out
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Belgium, despite the fact that Bitterns breed there?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> France for a start and you can add Belgium if you want.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >Nope. Average winter temperatures are lower than any in Britain for
>> >> >> >> >> >> >many localities in both countries.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Like where?  Please be more specific.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >How about Bourg-Madame, the town furthest south in France.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Are there Bitterns there?
>>
>> >> >> >> >Yup. They live in caves, feeding on Isard, Marmot and the corpses of
>> >> >> >> >skiers killed in avalanches.
>>
>> >> >> >> And out of date scientists, no doubt.
>>
>> >> >> >Nope. Bitterns are known to be very assiduous in checking the sell-by
>> >> >> >dates of everything they eat.
>>
>> >> >> Count your blessings at being past your sell-by date.
>>
>> >> >Yup. They're savage bugg*rs when they're roused. I heard the US State
>> >> >Dept. tried to hire one to get King Kong off the top of the Empire
>> >> >State building. But as you doubtless know, the job had to be done in
>> >> >the end by Navy fly-boys.
>>
>> >> I heard the Bitterns got there first.
>>
>> >> And by the way, what's this with "yup and nope"?  Do you have an
>> >> English language problem?
>>
>> >> Let's get serious.  Where are the Bitterns in France?  Are you hiding
>> >> behind a facade of nonsense
>>
>> >I'll now leave that to you, as I cannot hope to compete with you on
>> >level terms in this regard, however silly I make my posts.
>>
>> You don't have to try to make them silly - they all are.
>
>In as much as they all contain quotes of your idiotic rambling, this
>must be an obvious truth.

What quotes?

>
>> >> to hide your inability to confirm that
>> >> they might only habit warmer parts?    Seems to me that reed beds will
>> >> only be in the lower and warmer areas in France, perhaps like the
>> >> Carmargue.
>>
>> >So you have finally decided it is time to read up on the natural
>> >history of the Bittern. About time too.
>>
>> Not me.  More to do with my time.
>
>OK. That's fine. But you should not be posting on subjects about which
>to are ignorant, should you? So off you go and good riddance.
>

Seems I'm in good company with you and MO who seem to share that
ignorance :-)


>> > Now you need to read up on the
>> >natural history of 'Phragmites australis'
>>
>> Not me.  More to do with my time.
>
>OK. That's fine. But you should not be posting on subjects about which
>to are ignorant, should you? So off you go and good riddance.


See above.

What about nope and yup?  


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Sep 4, 11:54 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 11:52:11 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >On Sep 4, 12:01 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 00:29:01 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >On Sep 4, 12:46 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 11:20:17 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >On Sep 3, 4:49 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 06:46:57 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >> >On Sep 3, 11:21 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:06:24 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 3, 12:29 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 08:09:48 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 2, 4:27 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 05:04:18 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 2, 12:43 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 23:09:44 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Sep 1, 10:41 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:40:27 퍝, Malcolm
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >In article ,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 01:35:37 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>On Aug 30, 11:15 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:56:07 퍝, Malcolm
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>  wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >In article ,
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:33:19 퍝, "Bob Seago" 
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>http://www.eadt.co.uk/content/eadt/news/story.aspx?brand=EADOnline&cate
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>gory=News&tBrand=EADOnline&tCategory=news&itemid=IPED28%20Aug%202008%20
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>17%3A06%3A59%3A443
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>All one line.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >> Obviously to do with climate change since they're plentiful in warmer
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>climes.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Bwahahahahaha!!
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >You do just love to expose your ignorance, don't you?
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >Please elaborate on your "warmer climes". Which countries had you in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >mind when you said that?
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> You're showing your ignorance, Malcolm.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> Bitterns breed in Europe, North Africa and central Asia.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>Spain and N. Africa have very few, the latter at just one site. Sweden
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>has more than Britain - the limits of the world distribution are
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>roughly 40 N to 60 N. Hardly warmer climes. So who's showing their
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>ignorance, eh? Hint: look in the mirror.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bitterns breed in the following countries:
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Albania
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Austria
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Belarus
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Belarus
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bosnia and Herzegovina
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Britain
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bulgaria
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Croatia
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Czech Republic
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Denmark
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Estonia
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Finland
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>France
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Germany
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Greece
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Hungary
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Italy
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Latvia
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Lithuania
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Macedonia
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Moldova
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Netherlands
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Poland
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Portugal
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Romania
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Russia
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Serbia and Montenegro
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Slovakia
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Slovenia
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Spain
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Sweden
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Turkey
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Ukraine
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Many a lot warmer than here.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Which ones in the above list are warmer than UK? Why have you left out
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Belgium, despite the fact that Bitterns breed there> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> France for a start and you can add Belgium if you want.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Nope. Average winter temperatures are lower than any in Britain for
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >many localities in both countries.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Like where?  Please be more specific.
>
> >> >> >> >> >> >How about Bourg-Madame, the town furthest south in France> >> >> >> >> >> Are there Bitterns there?
>
> >> >> >> >> >Yup. They live in caves, feeding on Isard, Marmot and the corpses of
> >> >> >> >> >skiers killed in avalanches.
>
> >> >> >> >> And out of date scientists, no doubt.
>
> >> >> >> >Nope. Bitterns are known to be very assiduous in checking the sell-by
> >> >> >> >dates of everything they eat.
>
> >> >> >> Count your blessings at being past your sell-by date.
>
> >> >> >Yup. They're savage bugg*rs when they're roused. I heard the US State
> >> >> >Dept. tried to hire one to get King Kong off the top of the Empire
> >> >> >State building. But as you doubtless know, the job had to be done in
> >> >> >the end by Navy fly-boys.
>
> >> >> I heard the Bitterns got there first.
>
> >> >> And by the way, what's this with "yup and nope"?  Do you have an
> >> >> English language problem?
>
> >> >> Let's get serious.  Where are the Bitterns in France?  Are you hiding
> >> >> behind a facade of nonsense
>
> >> >I'll now leave that to you, as I cannot hope to compete with you on
> >> >level terms in this regard, however silly I make my posts.
>
> >> You don't have to try to make them silly - they all are.
>
> >In as much as they all contain quotes of your idiotic rambling, this
> >must be an obvious truth.
>
> What quotes?
>
>
>
> >> >> to hide your inability to confirm that
> >> >> they might only habit warmer parts?    Seems to me that reed beds will
> >> >> only be in the lower and warmer areas in France, perhaps like the
> >> >> Carmargue.
>
> >> >So you have finally decided it is time to read up on the natural
> >> >history of the Bittern. About time too.
>
> >> Not me.  More to do with my time.
>
> >OK. That's fine. But you should not be posting on subjects about which
> >to are ignorant, should you? So off you go and good riddance.
>
> Seems I'm in good company with you and MO who seem to share that
> ignorance :-)
>
> >> > Now you need to read up on the
> >> >natural history of 'Phragmites australis'
>
> >> Not me.  More to do with my time.
>
> >OK. That's fine. But you should not be posting on subjects about which
> >to are ignorant, should you? So off you go and good riddance.
>
> See above.
>
> What about nope and yup?

Excellent substitutes for 'no' and 'yes' when one wants to distinguish
a jocular response from a serious one on Usenet. Emoticons are getting
a bit 'passé', don't you think?

Real language evolves. That's what makes it interesting - not the
awful, tedious, grammatical farting and tap dancing we had to learn at
school. As much as we love to hate American mangling of English
language, there is no doubt they have brought new life to the way it
is used colloquially.