On Aug 27, 8:35 am, Malcolm  wrote:
> In article
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> John M.  writes
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> >On Aug 25, 11:05 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
> >> In article ,
> >> amacmil...@aol.com writes
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> >> >On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:36:29 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
> >> > wrote:
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> >> >>On Aug 25, 5:23 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:33:12 -0700 (PDT), "John M."
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> >> >>> >Explain how these trips are more damaging to the Arctic environment
> >> >>> >than the trans-Alaska pipeline, which carries the oil for gas-guzzling
> >> >>> >cars such as Range Rovers..
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> >> >>> They're probably not but only crooks would try to make money out of
> >> >>> then under the "conservation" banner.
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> >> >>It's a business like any other.
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> >> >Yes I agree.  But many are masquerading under the charity banner and
> >> >claim not to be "a business like any other".  How many times has
> >> >Malcolm Ogilvie said they're not businesses but charities.  Pleased to
> >> >see you disagree with him.  You're getting there.
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> >> >> It has its codes of conduct ,and all
> >> >>business is ethically reviewed to some degree by the powers that be.
> >> >>So are you saying that all business people are crooks?
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> >> >No I'm not.  But those even you think are "businesses like any other"
> >> >should be subject to the same rules as other "businesses like any
> >> >other" with regard to misrepresentation.  And misrepresentation in
> >> >business is crooked and seen as such.
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> >> Says Angus, after a typical piece of misrepresentation :-(
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> >Isn't it interesting that we have got this far in the discussion and
> >he has yet to invoke Godwin's Law.
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> Perhaps my telling him repeatedly that he is obsessed has had an effect
> :-))
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> But perhaps not!

The crucial point about obsession is that the obsessed cannot know
that they have a problem. Cultural institutions like revealed religion
make billions of people partially or totally obsessed. These belief
systems are carefully crafted, or have evolved with time, to do just
that. Compulsive behaviour linked to the obsession reinforces it on a
daily or even hourly basis. Visit any flavour of temple to see this in
action.