On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 04:05:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
 wrote:

>On Jun 2, 9:51 pm, TonyMorgan  wrote:
>> In message
>> , OM
>> SHIVA!108  writes
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Jun 2, 10:14 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >On Jun 2, 8:03 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Percy Picacity
>>
>> >> >> <k...@under.the.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> >"OM SHIVA!108"  wrote in
>> >> >> >news:1d3bbe4d-d66c-4f8e-be02-e9063f55de41
>> >> >> >@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>
>> >> >> >> So its an elected dicatorship - changes are needed.
>>
>> >> >> >> 1/ Bias towards wilderness/natural biodiversity in national parks,
>> >> >> >> and not he maintainance of sheep raches and deer parks...think of
>> >> >> >> Snowdonia for example - a scappy waste, a shithole - a disgrace
>> >> >> >> basically. Deeply boring wankers make these decisions, and
>> >> >> >> perpetuate this sort of complete and total fuking rubbish.
>>
>> >> >> >> 2/ Change to planning regs to allow the redevelopment of ex
>> >> >> >> dwellings for local occupancy - again more of a serious issue in
>> >> >> >> Snowdonia than Scotland - you seem to have different planning
>> >> >> >> policy there. Again its sick and sad to sea Snowdonia maintained
>> >> >> >> as a sheep ranched playground for british bastards 1-2-3. Many
>> >> >> >> empty derelicts, eco-conservation permaculture designs could be
>> >> >> >> enacted quite easily. Will you people have either respect for this
>> >> >> >> aewareness or the will to enact it? Of course not. Why? Because
>> >> >> >> you're a bunch of total and complete fuking wankers who are
>> >> >> >> permitting these war criminal perverts to enact a police state.
>> >> >> >> You kowtow to their sick order. You are worthless weak scum...in
>> >> >> >> wales, north wales, they are obsessed with language issue to the
>> >> >> >> exclusion of just about everything else. Its (you are) pathetic
>> >> >> >> Welsh. Sentimental weak creeps.
>>
>> >> >> >> PISS OFF
>>
>> >> >> >Unfortunately, since most "local" people won't go in for
>> >> >> >permaculture even if they say they will, your 2 would most likely
>> >> >> >make your 1 rather ineffective.
>>
>> >> >> Please don't confuse the troglodytes.
>>
>> >> >Its you thats trolling, cross posting and spamming, ALF wierdo.
>>
>> >> You could do with educating you gnome!
>>
>> >Taking to yourself egoiser.
>>
>> What a erudite response.......
>>
>> Poor thing, he thinks that inventing new words compensates for his
>> abysmal grasp of language, as well as the complete absence of a single
>> coherent thought.
>>
>> If Matt Lucas and David Walliams had have met this guy, he would have
>> been a star on a TV sketch.
>
>This guy (Morgan) hates me 'cos 

You're an arse? Yes we do know that anyway. Still don't fret the
situation is not irreversible but the change needs to come from
within. We wait with bated breath.

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:44:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
 wrote:

>On Jun 3, 12:14 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 04:05:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Jun 2, 9:51 pm, TonyMorgan  wrote:
>> >> In message
>> >> , OM
>> >> SHIVA!108  writes
>>
>> >> >On Jun 2, 10:14 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >On Jun 2, 8:03 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Percy Picacity
>>
>> >> >> >> <k...@under.the.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >"OM SHIVA!108"  wrote in
>> >> >> >> >news:1d3bbe4d-d66c-4f8e-be02-e9063f55de41
>> >> >> >> >@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>
>> >> >> >> >> So its an elected dicatorship - changes are needed.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> 1/ Bias towards wilderness/natural biodiversity in national parks,
>> >> >> >> >> and not he maintainance of sheep raches and deer parks...think of
>> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia for example - a scappy waste, a shithole - a disgrace
>> >> >> >> >> basically. Deeply boring wankers make these decisions, and
>> >> >> >> >> perpetuate this sort of complete and total fuking rubbish.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> 2/ Change to planning regs to allow the redevelopment of ex
>> >> >> >> >> dwellings for local occupancy - again more of a serious issue in
>> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia than Scotland - you seem to have different planning
>> >> >> >> >> policy there. Again its sick and sad to sea Snowdonia maintained
>> >> >> >> >> as a sheep ranched playground for british bastards 1-2-3. Many
>> >> >> >> >> empty derelicts, eco-conservation permaculture designs could be
>> >> >> >> >> enacted quite easily. Will you people have either respect for this
>> >> >> >> >> aewareness or the will to enact it? Of course not. Why? Because
>> >> >> >> >> you're a bunch of total and complete fuking wankers who are
>> >> >> >> >> permitting these war criminal perverts to enact a police state.
>> >> >> >> >> You kowtow to their sick order. You are worthless weak scum...in
>> >> >> >> >> wales, north wales, they are obsessed with language issue to the
>> >> >> >> >> exclusion of just about everything else. Its (you are) pathetic
>> >> >> >> >> Welsh. Sentimental weak creeps.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> PISS OFF
>>
>> >> >> >> >Unfortunately, since most "local" people won't go in for
>> >> >> >> >permaculture even if they say they will, your 2 would most likely
>> >> >> >> >make your 1 rather ineffective.
>>
>> >> >> >> Please don't confuse the troglodytes.
>>
>> >> >> >Its you thats trolling, cross posting and spamming, ALF wierdo.
>>
>> >> >> You could do with educating you gnome!
>>
>> >> >Taking to yourself egoiser.
>>
>> >> What a erudite response.......
>>
>> >> Poor thing, he thinks that inventing new words compensates for his
>> >> abysmal grasp of language, as well as the complete absence of a single
>> >> coherent thought.
>>
>> >> If Matt Lucas and David Walliams had have met this guy, he would have
>> >> been a star on a TV sketch.
>>
>> >This guy (Morgan) hates me 'cos
>>
>> You're an arse?
>
>we are the
>righteous white skinned wankers!)

I agree you are but don't be so harsh on yourself.

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:46:42 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
 wrote:

>On Jun 3, 12:14 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 04:05:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Jun 2, 9:51 pm, TonyMorgan  wrote:
>> >> In message
>> >> , OM
>> >> SHIVA!108  writes
>>
>> >> >On Jun 2, 10:14 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >On Jun 2, 8:03 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Percy Picacity
>>
>> >> >> >> <k...@under.the.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >"OM SHIVA!108"  wrote in
>> >> >> >> >news:1d3bbe4d-d66c-4f8e-be02-e9063f55de41
>> >> >> >> >@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>
>> >> >> >> >> So its an elected dicatorship - changes are needed.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> 1/ Bias towards wilderness/natural biodiversity in national parks,
>> >> >> >> >> and not he maintainance of sheep raches and deer parks...think of
>> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia for example - a scappy waste, a shithole - a disgrace
>> >> >> >> >> basically. Deeply boring wankers make these decisions, and
>> >> >> >> >> perpetuate this sort of complete and total fuking rubbish.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> 2/ Change to planning regs to allow the redevelopment of ex
>> >> >> >> >> dwellings for local occupancy - again more of a serious issue in
>> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia than Scotland - you seem to have different planning
>> >> >> >> >> policy there. Again its sick and sad to sea Snowdonia maintained
>> >> >> >> >> as a sheep ranched playground for british bastards 1-2-3. Many
>> >> >> >> >> empty derelicts, eco-conservation permaculture designs could be
>> >> >> >> >> enacted quite easily. Will you people have either respect for this
>> >> >> >> >> aewareness or the will to enact it? Of course not. Why? Because
>> >> >> >> >> you're a bunch of total and complete fuking wankers who are
>> >> >> >> >> permitting these war criminal perverts to enact a police state.
>> >> >> >> >> You kowtow to their sick order. You are worthless weak scum...in
>> >> >> >> >> wales, north wales, they are obsessed with language issue to the
>> >> >> >> >> exclusion of just about everything else. Its (you are) pathetic
>> >> >> >> >> Welsh. Sentimental weak creeps.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> PISS OFF
>>
>> >> >> >> >Unfortunately, since most "local" people won't go in for
>> >> >> >> >permaculture even if they say they will, your 2 would most likely
>> >> >> >> >make your 1 rather ineffective.
>>
>> >> >> >> Please don't confuse the troglodytes.
>>
>> >> >> >Its you thats trolling, cross posting and spamming, ALF wierdo.
>>
>> >> >> You could do with educating you gnome!
>>
>> >> >Taking to yourself egoiser.
>>
>> >> What a erudite response.......
>>
>> >> Poor thing, he thinks that inventing new words compensates for his
>> >> abysmal grasp of language, as well as the complete absence of a single
>> >> coherent thought.
>>
>> >> If Matt Lucas and David Walliams had have met this guy, he would have
>> >> been a star on a TV sketch.
>>
>> >This guy (Morgan) hates me 'cos
>>
>> You're an arse? Yes we do know that anyway. Still don't fret the
>> situation is not irreversible but the change needs to come from
>> within. We wait with bated breath.
>
>Have some respect 

I have. You're an arse!

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:46:42 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108" 
wrote:

>On Jun 3, 12:14 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 04:05:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Jun 2, 9:51 pm, TonyMorgan  wrote:
>> >> In message
>> >> , OM
>> >> SHIVA!108  writes
>>
>> >> >On Jun 2, 10:14 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >On Jun 2, 8:03 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Percy Picacity
>>
>> >> >> >> <k...@under.the.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >"OM SHIVA!108"  wrote in
>> >> >> >> >news:1d3bbe4d-d66c-4f8e-be02-e9063f55de41
>> >> >> >> >@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>
>> >> >> >> >> So its an elected dicatorship - changes are needed.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> 1/ Bias towards wilderness/natural biodiversity in national parks,
>> >> >> >> >> and not he maintainance of sheep raches and deer parks...think of
>> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia for example - a scappy waste, a shithole - a disgrace
>> >> >> >> >> basically. Deeply boring wankers make these decisions, and
>> >> >> >> >> perpetuate this sort of complete and total fuking rubbish.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> 2/ Change to planning regs to allow the redevelopment of ex
>> >> >> >> >> dwellings for local occupancy - again more of a serious issue in
>> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia than Scotland - you seem to have different planning
>> >> >> >> >> policy there. Again its sick and sad to sea Snowdonia maintained
>> >> >> >> >> as a sheep ranched playground for british bastards 1-2-3. Many
>> >> >> >> >> empty derelicts, eco-conservation permaculture designs could be
>> >> >> >> >> enacted quite easily. Will you people have either respect for this
>> >> >> >> >> aewareness or the will to enact it? Of course not. Why? Because
>> >> >> >> >> you're a bunch of total and complete fuking wankers who are
>> >> >> >> >> permitting these war criminal perverts to enact a police state.
>> >> >> >> >> You kowtow to their sick order. You are worthless weak scum...in
>> >> >> >> >> wales, north wales, they are obsessed with language issue to the
>> >> >> >> >> exclusion of just about everything else. Its (you are) pathetic
>> >> >> >> >> Welsh. Sentimental weak creeps.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> PISS OFF
>>
>> >> >> >> >Unfortunately, since most "local" people won't go in for
>> >> >> >> >permaculture even if they say they will, your 2 would most likely
>> >> >> >> >make your 1 rather ineffective.
>>
>> >> >> >> Please don't confuse the troglodytes.
>>
>> >> >> >Its you thats trolling, cross posting and spamming, ALF wierdo.
>>
>> >> >> You could do with educating you gnome!
>>
>> >> >Taking to yourself egoiser.
>>
>> >> What a erudite response.......
>>
>> >> Poor thing, he thinks that inventing new words compensates for his
>> >> abysmal grasp of language, as well as the complete absence of a single
>> >> coherent thought.
>>
>> >> If Matt Lucas and David Walliams had have met this guy, he would have
>> >> been a star on a TV sketch.
>>
>> >This guy (Morgan) hates me 'cos
>>
>> You're an arse? Yes we do know that anyway. Still don't fret the
>> situation is not irreversible but the change needs to come from
>> within. We wait with bated breath.
>
>Have some respect for what I just wrote in the last post, ALF prick.

A note of explanation might just be in order here.
Read the following post through. It might help.

You have posted  to a newsgroup set up by
the government to plug the gaps created by the abysmal
failure of their Psychiatric Care in the Community Policy. 
The uk.local hierarchy was devised to provide an outlet for
individuals who would otherwise spending their days sitting
at home wearing an aluminium foil hat waiting for a full moon
to rise. It was hoped that this would reduce the incidence
of nutters out there howling at the moon and frightening the
shit out of their neighbours. Another of HMGs aims and 
objectives was to provide a distraction to take their minds
of the problem of who they were going to knife to death next.
Unfortunately, this group has been taken over by the 
articulate lower middle classes who have succeeding in 
driving HMGs target audience away.Independant research has
shown that it was the amount and quality of the inane drivel,
called small talk which the middle classes are adept at, which
had the effect of doing their heads in. They left to
protect what was left of their sanity. Saddly this has happened
to the whole of uk.local. hierarchy.  

This newsgroup is a very good example of another HMG failure.

------------------------>DISCLAIMER<------------------------

The views expressed in this post are not those of the author.
Indeed they may not be held by any right thinking person.
Should you be moved to engage with the ideas expressed
you would be best advised to consult a very good
practicing Psychiatrist should such a thing exist.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:14:58 +0100, Old Codger 
wrote:

>On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:46:42 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
> wrote:
>
>>On Jun 3, 12:14 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 04:05:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >On Jun 2, 9:51 pm, TonyMorgan  wrote:
>>> >> In message
>>> >> , OM
>>> >> SHIVA!108  writes
>>>
>>> >> >On Jun 2, 10:14 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>>> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>>
>>> >> >>  wrote:
>>> >> >> >On Jun 2, 8:03 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Percy Picacity
>>>
>>> >> >> >> <k...@under.the.invalid> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> >"OM SHIVA!108"  wrote in
>>> >> >> >> >news:1d3bbe4d-d66c-4f8e-be02-e9063f55de41
>>> >> >> >> >@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> So its an elected dicatorship - changes are needed.
>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> 1/ Bias towards wilderness/natural biodiversity in national parks,
>>> >> >> >> >> and not he maintainance of sheep raches and deer parks...think of
>>> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia for example - a scappy waste, a shithole - a disgrace
>>> >> >> >> >> basically. Deeply boring wankers make these decisions, and
>>> >> >> >> >> perpetuate this sort of complete and total fuking rubbish.
>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> 2/ Change to planning regs to allow the redevelopment of ex
>>> >> >> >> >> dwellings for local occupancy - again more of a serious issue in
>>> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia than Scotland - you seem to have different planning
>>> >> >> >> >> policy there. Again its sick and sad to sea Snowdonia maintained
>>> >> >> >> >> as a sheep ranched playground for british bastards 1-2-3. Many
>>> >> >> >> >> empty derelicts, eco-conservation permaculture designs could be
>>> >> >> >> >> enacted quite easily. Will you people have either respect for this
>>> >> >> >> >> aewareness or the will to enact it? Of course not. Why? Because
>>> >> >> >> >> you're a bunch of total and complete fuking wankers who are
>>> >> >> >> >> permitting these war criminal perverts to enact a police state.
>>> >> >> >> >> You kowtow to their sick order. You are worthless weak scum...in
>>> >> >> >> >> wales, north wales, they are obsessed with language issue to the
>>> >> >> >> >> exclusion of just about everything else. Its (you are) pathetic
>>> >> >> >> >> Welsh. Sentimental weak creeps.
>>>
>>> >> >> >> >> PISS OFF
>>>
>>> >> >> >> >Unfortunately, since most "local" people won't go in for
>>> >> >> >> >permaculture even if they say they will, your 2 would most likely
>>> >> >> >> >make your 1 rather ineffective.
>>>
>>> >> >> >> Please don't confuse the troglodytes.
>>>
>>> >> >> >Its you thats trolling, cross posting and spamming, ALF wierdo.
>>>
>>> >> >> You could do with educating you gnome!
>>>
>>> >> >Taking to yourself egoiser.
>>>
>>> >> What a erudite response.......
>>>
>>> >> Poor thing, he thinks that inventing new words compensates for his
>>> >> abysmal grasp of language, as well as the complete absence of a single
>>> >> coherent thought.
>>>
>>> >> If Matt Lucas and David Walliams had have met this guy, he would have
>>> >> been a star on a TV sketch.
>>>
>>> >This guy (Morgan) hates me 'cos
>>>
>>> You're an arse? Yes we do know that anyway. Still don't fret the
>>> situation is not irreversible but the change needs to come from
>>> within. We wait with bated breath.
>>
>>Have some respect 
>
>I have. You're an arse!

.
Hee Hee Hee <SMIRK> Tee Hee Hee.....

On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 09:31:32 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
 wrote:

>On Jun 3, 4:14 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:46:42 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Jun 3, 12:14 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 04:05:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >On Jun 2, 9:51 pm, TonyMorgan  wrote:
>> >> >> In message
>> >> >> , OM
>> >> >> SHIVA!108  writes
>>
>> >> >> >On Jun 2, 10:14 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Jun 2, 8:03 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Percy Picacity
>>
>> >> >> >> >> <k...@under.the.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >"OM SHIVA!108"  wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >news:1d3bbe4d-d66c-4f8e-be02-e9063f55de41
>> >> >> >> >> >@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> So its an elected dicatorship - changes are needed.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> 1/ Bias towards wilderness/natural biodiversity in national parks,
>> >> >> >> >> >> and not he maintainance of sheep raches and deer parks...think of
>> >> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia for example - a scappy waste, a shithole - a disgrace
>> >> >> >> >> >> basically. Deeply boring wankers make these decisions, and
>> >> >> >> >> >> perpetuate this sort of complete and total fuking rubbish.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> 2/ Change to planning regs to allow the redevelopment of ex
>> >> >> >> >> >> dwellings for local occupancy - again more of a serious issue in
>> >> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia than Scotland - you seem to have different planning
>> >> >> >> >> >> policy there. Again its sick and sad to sea Snowdonia maintained
>> >> >> >> >> >> as a sheep ranched playground for british bastards 1-2-3. Many
>> >> >> >> >> >> empty derelicts, eco-conservation permaculture designs could be
>> >> >> >> >> >> enacted quite easily. Will you people have either respect for this
>> >> >> >> >> >> aewareness or the will to enact it? Of course not. Why? Because
>> >> >> >> >> >> you're a bunch of total and complete fuking wankers who are
>> >> >> >> >> >> permitting these war criminal perverts to enact a police state.
>> >> >> >> >> >> You kowtow to their sick order. You are worthless weak scum...in
>> >> >> >> >> >> wales, north wales, they are obsessed with language issue to the
>> >> >> >> >> >> exclusion of just about everything else. Its (you are) pathetic
>> >> >> >> >> >> Welsh. Sentimental weak creeps.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> PISS OFF
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately, since most "local" people won't go in for
>> >> >> >> >> >permaculture even if they say they will, your 2 would most likely
>> >> >> >> >> >make your 1 rather ineffective.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Please don't confuse the troglodytes.
>>
>> >> >> >> >Its you thats trolling, cross posting and spamming, ALF wierdo.
>>
>> >> >> >> You could do with educating you gnome!
>>
>> >> >> >Taking to yourself egoiser.
>>
>> >> >> What a erudite response.......
>>
>> >> >> Poor thing, he thinks that inventing new words compensates for his
>> >> >> abysmal grasp of language, as well as the complete absence of a single
>> >> >> coherent thought.
>>
>> >> >> If Matt Lucas and David Walliams had have met this guy, he would have
>> >> >> been a star on a TV sketch.
>>
>> >> >This guy (Morgan) hates me 'cos
>>
>> >> You're an arse? Yes we do know that anyway. Still don't fret the
>> >> situation is not irreversible but the change needs to come from
>> >> within. We wait with bated breath.
>>
>> >Have some respect
>>
>> I have. You're an arse!
>
>So you don't have awareness about the masons presumably then matey?
>
>Stop performing for the crowd Old Codger and take a step back. Morgans
>been around on uk.local north-wales for several years and is firmly in
>the pocket of the police state pervert clique (essentially the
>masons). And so in your single minded pursuit of animal rights, you
>will collaborate with these fuking vermin?
>
>Oh and by the way, the Makah do have the right to hunt whale both in
>terms of statute and natural tribal law. I

How did I get caught up in this parallel universe of yours! Where's
the exit?

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008 06:45:42 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
 wrote:

>On Jun 3, 4:14 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:44:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Jun 3, 12:14 pm, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 04:05:49 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >On Jun 2, 9:51 pm, TonyMorgan  wrote:
>> >> >> In message
>> >> >> , OM
>> >> >> SHIVA!108  writes
>>
>> >> >> >On Jun 2, 10:14 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 01:14:54 -0700 (PDT), "OM SHIVA!108"
>>
>> >> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >On Jun 2, 8:03 am, Old Codger  wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 06:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Percy Picacity
>>
>> >> >> >> >> <k...@under.the.invalid> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >"OM SHIVA!108"  wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >news:1d3bbe4d-d66c-4f8e-be02-e9063f55de41
>> >> >> >> >> >@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> So its an elected dicatorship - changes are needed.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> 1/ Bias towards wilderness/natural biodiversity in national parks,
>> >> >> >> >> >> and not he maintainance of sheep raches and deer parks...think of
>> >> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia for example - a scappy waste, a shithole - a disgrace
>> >> >> >> >> >> basically. Deeply boring wankers make these decisions, and
>> >> >> >> >> >> perpetuate this sort of complete and total fuking rubbish.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> 2/ Change to planning regs to allow the redevelopment of ex
>> >> >> >> >> >> dwellings for local occupancy - again more of a serious issue in
>> >> >> >> >> >> Snowdonia than Scotland - you seem to have different planning
>> >> >> >> >> >> policy there. Again its sick and sad to sea Snowdonia maintained
>> >> >> >> >> >> as a sheep ranched playground for british bastards 1-2-3. Many
>> >> >> >> >> >> empty derelicts, eco-conservation permaculture designs could be
>> >> >> >> >> >> enacted quite easily. Will you people have either respect for this
>> >> >> >> >> >> aewareness or the will to enact it? Of course not. Why? Because
>> >> >> >> >> >> you're a bunch of total and complete fuking wankers who are
>> >> >> >> >> >> permitting these war criminal perverts to enact a police state.
>> >> >> >> >> >> You kowtow to their sick order. You are worthless weak scum...in
>> >> >> >> >> >> wales, north wales, they are obsessed with language issue to the
>> >> >> >> >> >> exclusion of just about everything else. Its (you are) pathetic
>> >> >> >> >> >> Welsh. Sentimental weak creeps.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> PISS OFF
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >Unfortunately, since most "local" people won't go in for
>> >> >> >> >> >permaculture even if they say they will, your 2 would most likely
>> >> >> >> >> >make your 1 rather ineffective.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Please don't confuse the troglodytes.
>>
>> >> >> >> >Its you thats trolling, cross posting and spamming, ALF wierdo.
>>
>> >> >> >> You could do with educating you gnome!
>>
>> >> >> >Taking to yourself egoiser.
>>
>> >> >> What a erudite response.......
>>
>> >> >> Poor thing, he thinks that inventing new words compensates for his
>> >> >> abysmal grasp of language, as well as the complete absence of a single
>> >> >> coherent thought.
>>
>> >> >> If Matt Lucas and David Walliams had have met this guy, he would have
>> >> >> been a star on a TV sketch.
>>
>> >> >This guy (Morgan) hates me 'cos
>>
>> >> You're an arse?
>>
>> >we are the
>> >righteous white skinned wankers!)
>>
>> I agree you are but don't be so harsh on yourself.
>
>So what right do you people have to tell the Makah how they should
>behave? They have the right to hunt whale by treaty with the USA
>government. they have the right by supernatural give away - tribal
>law. How dare idiots like you preach to these sound pagan people. You
>have no right!

Try not confuse the makah with the fat slob buying his daily fix of
factory farmed, diseased animals remains from Tesco.

>And its not just a matter of you people defending 'animal rights'
>issues...in the case of the grey squirrel, these creatures are
>invasive

No more so than the red. They were shot to extinction in the UK with a
bounty on their heads by the pro hunt loons and CONservation
hooligans. Until they became a cash cow and now all the goldiggers
want a piece of the action! It has nothing to do with biodiversity.

> and destructive toward indigenous biodiversity
>...from red
>squirrels to native trees..

No more so than reds. Greys and reds don't compete for food or habitat
either.

>quite apart from their destruction of fruit
>and nut trees...

reds and greys are exactly the same in that respect. I have never seen
a squirrel make a tree fall down. It's pure fabrication.

If you are so concerned at environmental damage look at your own cost
to the planet first!

>but that means nothing to the ALF/AR player does it?

Slaughtering wildlife for fun or some weird Nazi principled ideology
means lots to us.

>You are right, don't kill the grey squirrels maaaannnn. So by taking
>the greys as a food crop, native biodiversity is saved, red squirrel
>life is saved. Red Squirrel lives are saved that otherwise would be
>killed by the greys.

Greys don't compete or kill reds in any way, shape or form. You have
been brainwashed which isn't hard given the size of yours!

The pox virus is transmitted from red to red just as much as it is
from grey to red, or red to grey even. It's just that the greys can
live with it.

By far the biggest cause for decline of the red is habitat destruction
by man. The reds are very fussy about where they live. The greys will
adapt to anything. Since when has that been a crime?

> Thats the reality. In other words you are a
>deluded idiot -

You're an ignorant deluded loon and it would appear to you that is
bliss!

Jim you've not been taking your meds, have you.