Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The Environment

While he stopped short of recommending rat’s milk as an alternative,
musician Paul McCartney did follow in the footsteps of his former wife
Heather Mills by advocating for increased diets of vegetables and less
meat.

The former Beatle drew attention to a United Nations report which
found that the livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas
emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent - 18% - than transport. In a
letter to the UK Press Association, he outlined the dramatic effects
eating meat has on the planet — including the facts that 70% of former
forests in the Amazon have been turned over to grazing and that
livestock now use 30% of the entire world’s land surface. From his
letter,

“That this message comes directly from an authoritative body such as
the UN (whose member states, it should be remembered, are not
generally considered vegetarian) rather than an organisation committed
to vegetarianism is significant.

What I think is especially compelling is that this report should now
encourage everybody to ‘do their bit’ for the planet… the evidence
that the report gives is, frankly, stunning. It points directly to the
striking detrimental effects of excessive livestock farming on the
environment. It generates 65% of human-related nitrous oxide, which
has 296 times the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of CO2. Most of this
comes from manure.

By simply considering altering eating habits people can strike a blow
for the environment, our children and the future. Such facts and data
as those listed above can’t be ignored.”

Good words from Sir Paul McCartney and excellent food for thought this
Holiday season as the massive festive dinners continue on through New
Years. For those of us not vegetarian, consider reducing your intake
this year and making an effort to invite more green into your diets.
Every little bit helps. We can all be conscious of the impact our food
has on the world.

via the press association 



5 Comments Tagged: heather mills, paul-mccartney
5 Responses to “Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The
Environment”

quanyinmeditator says on December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pm 
What is really upsetting about this is that this report has been out
for a year, and after Paul’s press release, all of 4 news media
outlets (including your own) reported on it. One thing he did not
point out was that it was the Livestock group at the United Nations
Food and Agricutlure Organization which put out the report. The
Livestock group!! Saying eating meat is responsible for 18% of the
worlds green house gases! And the press has not picked up on it. And
the University of Chicago did a study saying that by going vegan for a
year, you save 50% more emissions than by driving a Prius. And its a
whole lot cheaper to eat a vegan meal than to buy a Prius!


carol says on December 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pm 
give example substituts and I’ll change.have the supermarkets sell
different items and I’ll buy it. YOU CAN’T JUST SAY CHANGE. SHOW
EXAMPLES.

deena says on December 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pm 
I went “fish-only-every-now-and-then vegetarian” 2 years ago.
Transitioning from meat was not hard at all. It takes some time to
research online what looks good to you, and then what is available in
your grocery.


animalfriend says on December 20th, 2007 at 8:27 am 
Sir Paul is wise and a great personality, indeed!


Dana says on December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pm 
for Carol: Whole Foods, Wild Oats and Trader Joe’s have a great
selection of vegetarian and vegan prepared food items, both fresh and
frozen. Whole Foods has a great selection of the raw ingredients for
cooking vegetarian or vegan from scratch, such as organic lentils,
beans and nuts in the bulk section as well as canned and frozen. The
above retailers also offer all kinds of soy and nut milks, soy
yogurts, soy and nut butters and “mock-meat” substitutes like veggie
bacon, veggie beef (great for tacos, which I had a few nights ago) and
veggie sausage. And more and more mainstream grocery stores like
Safeway and Giant offer vegetarian products as well.

For veggie friendly restaurants go to www.happycow.org

There’s plenty of vegetarian-oriented websites that help people make
the transition to eating less or no meat. Just do some googling and
you’ll find them. One great one is vegforlife.org

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:01:08 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:14:21 +0000, Old Codger
> wrote:
>
>I saw the report and interview on TV and thought it was very good.

It was excellent and unbiased, had nothing to do with veggie/meat
ethics and was a wake up call to anyone who cares for the planet and
consequently their children and children's children

>>Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The Environment
>>
>>While he stopped short of recommending rat’s milk as an alternative,
>>musician Paul McCartney did follow in the footsteps of his former wife
>>Heather Mills by advocating for increased diets of vegetables and less
>>meat.
>>
>>The former Beatle drew attention to a United Nations report which
>>found that the livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas
>>emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent - 18% - than transport. In a
>>letter to the UK Press Association, he outlined the dramatic effects
>>eating meat has on the planet — including the facts that 70% of former
>>forests in the Amazon have been turned over to grazing and that
>>livestock now use 30% of the entire world’s land surface. From his
>>letter,
>>
>>“That this message comes directly from an authoritative body such as
>>the UN (whose member states, it should be remembered, are not
>>generally considered vegetarian) rather than an organisation committed
>>to vegetarianism is significant.
>>
>>What I think is especially compelling is that this report should now
>>encourage everybody to ‘do their bit’ for the planet… the evidence
>>that the report gives is, frankly, stunning. It points directly to the
>>striking detrimental effects of excessive livestock farming on the
>>environment. It generates 65% of human-related nitrous oxide, which
>>has 296 times the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of CO2. Most of this
>>comes from manure.
>>
>>By simply considering altering eating habits people can strike a blow
>>for the environment, our children and the future. Such facts and data
>>as those listed above can’t be ignored.”
>>
>>Good words from Sir Paul McCartney and excellent food for thought this
>>Holiday season as the massive festive dinners continue on through New
>>Years. For those of us not vegetarian, consider reducing your intake
>>this year and making an effort to invite more green into your diets.
>>Every little bit helps. We can all be conscious of the impact our food
>>has on the world.
>>
>>via the press association 
>>
>>
>>
>>5 Comments Tagged: heather mills, paul-mccartney
>>5 Responses to “Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The
>>Environment”
>>
>>quanyinmeditator says on December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pm 
>>What is really upsetting about this is that this report has been out
>>for a year, and after Paul’s press release, all of 4 news media
>>outlets (including your own) reported on it. One thing he did not
>>point out was that it was the Livestock group at the United Nations
>>Food and Agricutlure Organization which put out the report. The
>>Livestock group!! Saying eating meat is responsible for 18% of the
>>worlds green house gases! And the press has not picked up on it. And
>>the University of Chicago did a study saying that by going vegan for a
>>year, you save 50% more emissions than by driving a Prius. And its a
>>whole lot cheaper to eat a vegan meal than to buy a Prius!
>>
>>
>>carol says on December 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pm 
>>give example substituts and I’ll change.have the supermarkets sell
>>different items and I’ll buy it. YOU CAN’T JUST SAY CHANGE. SHOW
>>EXAMPLES.
>>
>>deena says on December 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pm 
>>I went “fish-only-every-now-and-then vegetarian” 2 years ago.
>>Transitioning from meat was not hard at all. It takes some time to
>>research online what looks good to you, and then what is available in
>>your grocery.
>>
>>
>>animalfriend says on December 20th, 2007 at 8:27 am 
>>Sir Paul is wise and a great personality, indeed!
>>
>>
>>Dana says on December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pm 
>>for Carol: Whole Foods, Wild Oats and Trader Joe’s have a great
>>selection of vegetarian and vegan prepared food items, both fresh and
>>frozen. Whole Foods has a great selection of the raw ingredients for
>>cooking vegetarian or vegan from scratch, such as organic lentils,
>>beans and nuts in the bulk section as well as canned and frozen. The
>>above retailers also offer all kinds of soy and nut milks, soy
>>yogurts, soy and nut butters and “mock-meat” substitutes like veggie
>>bacon, veggie beef (great for tacos, which I had a few nights ago) and
>>veggie sausage. And more and more mainstream grocery stores like
>>Safeway and Giant offer vegetarian products as well.
>>
>>For veggie friendly restaurants go to www.happycow.org
>>
>>There’s plenty of vegetarian-oriented websites that help people make
>>the transition to eating less or no meat. Just do some googling and
>>you’ll find them. One great one is vegforlife.org
>>
>Angus Macmillan
>www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
>www.killhunting.org
>www.con-servation.org.uk
>
>All truth passes through three stages:
>First, it is ridiculed;
>Second, it is violently opposed; and
>Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
>-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:14:21 +0000, Old Codger
 wrote:

I saw the report and interview on TV and thought it was very good.


>Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The Environment
>
>While he stopped short of recommending rat’s milk as an alternative,
>musician Paul McCartney did follow in the footsteps of his former wife
>Heather Mills by advocating for increased diets of vegetables and less
>meat.
>
>The former Beatle drew attention to a United Nations report which
>found that the livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas
>emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent - 18% - than transport. In a
>letter to the UK Press Association, he outlined the dramatic effects
>eating meat has on the planet — including the facts that 70% of former
>forests in the Amazon have been turned over to grazing and that
>livestock now use 30% of the entire world’s land surface. From his
>letter,
>
>“That this message comes directly from an authoritative body such as
>the UN (whose member states, it should be remembered, are not
>generally considered vegetarian) rather than an organisation committed
>to vegetarianism is significant.
>
>What I think is especially compelling is that this report should now
>encourage everybody to ‘do their bit’ for the planet… the evidence
>that the report gives is, frankly, stunning. It points directly to the
>striking detrimental effects of excessive livestock farming on the
>environment. It generates 65% of human-related nitrous oxide, which
>has 296 times the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of CO2. Most of this
>comes from manure.
>
>By simply considering altering eating habits people can strike a blow
>for the environment, our children and the future. Such facts and data
>as those listed above can’t be ignored.”
>
>Good words from Sir Paul McCartney and excellent food for thought this
>Holiday season as the massive festive dinners continue on through New
>Years. For those of us not vegetarian, consider reducing your intake
>this year and making an effort to invite more green into your diets.
>Every little bit helps. We can all be conscious of the impact our food
>has on the world.
>
>via the press association 
>
>
>
>5 Comments Tagged: heather mills, paul-mccartney
>5 Responses to “Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The
>Environment”
>
>quanyinmeditator says on December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pm 
>What is really upsetting about this is that this report has been out
>for a year, and after Paul’s press release, all of 4 news media
>outlets (including your own) reported on it. One thing he did not
>point out was that it was the Livestock group at the United Nations
>Food and Agricutlure Organization which put out the report. The
>Livestock group!! Saying eating meat is responsible for 18% of the
>worlds green house gases! And the press has not picked up on it. And
>the University of Chicago did a study saying that by going vegan for a
>year, you save 50% more emissions than by driving a Prius. And its a
>whole lot cheaper to eat a vegan meal than to buy a Prius!
>
>
>carol says on December 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pm 
>give example substituts and I’ll change.have the supermarkets sell
>different items and I’ll buy it. YOU CAN’T JUST SAY CHANGE. SHOW
>EXAMPLES.
>
>deena says on December 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pm 
>I went “fish-only-every-now-and-then vegetarian” 2 years ago.
>Transitioning from meat was not hard at all. It takes some time to
>research online what looks good to you, and then what is available in
>your grocery.
>
>
>animalfriend says on December 20th, 2007 at 8:27 am 
>Sir Paul is wise and a great personality, indeed!
>
>
>Dana says on December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pm 
>for Carol: Whole Foods, Wild Oats and Trader Joe’s have a great
>selection of vegetarian and vegan prepared food items, both fresh and
>frozen. Whole Foods has a great selection of the raw ingredients for
>cooking vegetarian or vegan from scratch, such as organic lentils,
>beans and nuts in the bulk section as well as canned and frozen. The
>above retailers also offer all kinds of soy and nut milks, soy
>yogurts, soy and nut butters and “mock-meat” substitutes like veggie
>bacon, veggie beef (great for tacos, which I had a few nights ago) and
>veggie sausage. And more and more mainstream grocery stores like
>Safeway and Giant offer vegetarian products as well.
>
>For veggie friendly restaurants go to www.happycow.org
>
>There’s plenty of vegetarian-oriented websites that help people make
>the transition to eating less or no meat. Just do some googling and
>you’ll find them. One great one is vegforlife.org
>
Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

Now which is it I wonder, am I getting close?

http://tinyurl.com/yvfotf

Definitions of pete on the Web:

The former name for the OSU Library computer system that accesses the
library catalog and the electronic databases.
www.library.okstate.edu/infolit/glossary.htm

All plastic bottles with a recycling symbol #1-PETE or #2-HDPE on the
bottom. Includes polyethylene terephthalate (PETE) 2-liter pop
bottles, with or without base, PETE liquor bottles, high-density
polyethylene milk and juice containers, and other #1 or #2 containers
and bottles.
www.montgomerycountymd.gov/swstmpl.asp

Polyethylene terephthalate, or PET
www.mhia.org/psc/PSC_Products_PlasticPallet_glossary.cfm

Pete (also known by countless other names, including Peg-Leg Pete and
Black Pete) is a fictional character from the Walt Disney Company
stables. He was originally depicted as an anthropomorphic cat and
occasionally depicted with a pegleg, and best known as the arch- of
Mickey Mouse. ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:59:34 +0000, Old Codger
 wrote:

>Now which is it I wonder, am I getting close?
>
>http://tinyurl.com/yvfotf
>
>Definitions of pete on the Web:
>
>The former name for the OSU Library computer system that accesses the
>library catalog and the electronic databases.
>www.library.okstate.edu/infolit/glossary.htm
>
>All plastic bottles with a recycling symbol #1-PETE or #2-HDPE on the
>bottom. Includes polyethylene terephthalate (PETE) 2-liter pop
>bottles, with or without base, PETE liquor bottles, high-density
>polyethylene milk and juice containers, and other #1 or #2 containers
>and bottles.
>www.montgomerycountymd.gov/swstmpl.asp
>
>Polyethylene terephthalate, or PET
>www.mhia.org/psc/PSC_Products_PlasticPallet_glossary.cfm
>
>Pete (also known by countless other names, including Peg-Leg Pete and
>Black Pete) is a fictional character from the Walt Disney Company
>stables. He was originally depicted as an anthropomorphic cat and
>occasionally depicted with a pegleg, and best known as the arch- of
>Mickey Mouse. ...
>
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete  


Good try.

This will really confuse the French Connection :-))


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:38:02 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:59:34 +0000, Old Codger
> wrote:
>
>>Now which is it I wonder, am I getting close?
>>
>>http://tinyurl.com/yvfotf
>>
>>Definitions of pete on the Web:
>>
>>The former name for the OSU Library computer system that accesses the
>>library catalog and the electronic databases.
>>www.library.okstate.edu/infolit/glossary.htm
>>
>>All plastic bottles with a recycling symbol #1-PETE or #2-HDPE on the
>>bottom. Includes polyethylene terephthalate (PETE) 2-liter pop
>>bottles, with or without base, PETE liquor bottles, high-density
>>polyethylene milk and juice containers, and other #1 or #2 containers
>>and bottles.
>>www.montgomerycountymd.gov/swstmpl.asp
>>
>>Polyethylene terephthalate, or PET
>>www.mhia.org/psc/PSC_Products_PlasticPallet_glossary.cfm
>>
>>Pete (also known by countless other names, including Peg-Leg Pete and
>>Black Pete) is a fictional character from the Walt Disney Company
>>stables. He was originally depicted as an anthropomorphic cat and
>>occasionally depicted with a pegleg, and best known as the arch- of
>>Mickey Mouse. ...
>>
>>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete  
>
>
>Good try.
>
>This will really confuse the French Connection :-))
>
>

Maybe he's not in exile, he's gone to Disneyland Paris dressed as
Chicken George in the futile hope of capturing Pete Who? with goofy
and claiming a Knighthood!

Eggsactly.

Come in Chicken George the games up.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:46:07 +0000, Old Codger
 wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:38:02 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:59:34 +0000, Old Codger
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Now which is it I wonder, am I getting close?
>>>
>>>http://tinyurl.com/yvfotf
>>>
>>>Definitions of pete on the Web:
>>>
>>>The former name for the OSU Library computer system that accesses the
>>>library catalog and the electronic databases.
>>>www.library.okstate.edu/infolit/glossary.htm
>>>
>>>All plastic bottles with a recycling symbol #1-PETE or #2-HDPE on the
>>>bottom. Includes polyethylene terephthalate (PETE) 2-liter pop
>>>bottles, with or without base, PETE liquor bottles, high-density
>>>polyethylene milk and juice containers, and other #1 or #2 containers
>>>and bottles.
>>>www.montgomerycountymd.gov/swstmpl.asp
>>>
>>>Polyethylene terephthalate, or PET
>>>www.mhia.org/psc/PSC_Products_PlasticPallet_glossary.cfm
>>>
>>>Pete (also known by countless other names, including Peg-Leg Pete and
>>>Black Pete) is a fictional character from the Walt Disney Company
>>>stables. He was originally depicted as an anthropomorphic cat and
>>>occasionally depicted with a pegleg, and best known as the arch- of
>>>Mickey Mouse. ...
>>>
>>>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete  
>>
>>
>>Good try.
>>
>>This will really confuse the French Connection :-))
>>
>>
>
>Maybe he's not in exile, he's gone to Disneyland Paris dressed as
>Chicken George in the futile hope of capturing Pete Who? with goofy
>and claiming a Knighthood!
>

Any relation to Dr Who?  :-)

>Eggsactly.
>
>Come in Chicken George the games up.
>

What with him mixing his malt whisky with vin rouge and his addiction
to alt. telephone.sex, his game's been up quite a while.

On top of all that he's got dementia in a foreign country and wants to
be the mayor's assistant.

Not much hope for him.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Jan 22, 6:01 am, Old Codger 
wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:01:08 +0000, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:14:21 +0000, Old Codger
> > wrote:
>
> >I saw the report and interview on TV and thought it was very good.
>
> It was excellent and unbiased, had nothing to do with veggie/meat
> ethics and was a wake up call to anyone who cares for the planet and
> consequently their children and children's children
>
>
>
> >>Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The Environment
>
> >>While he stopped short of recommending rat's milk as an alternative,
> >>musician Paul McCartney did follow in the footsteps of his former wife
> >>Heather Mills by advocating for increased diets of vegetables and less
> >>meat.
>
> >>The former Beatle drew attention to a United Nations report which
> >>found that the livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas
> >>emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent - 18% - than transport. In a
> >>letter to the UK Press Association, he outlined the dramatic effects
> >>eating meat has on the planet -- including the facts that 70% of former
> >>forests in the Amazon have been turned over to grazing and that
> >>livestock now use 30% of the entire world's land surface. From his
> >>letter,
>
> >>"That this message comes directly from an authoritative body such as
> >>the UN (whose member states, it should be remembered, are not
> >>generally considered vegetarian) rather than an organisation committed
> >>to vegetarianism is significant.
>
> >>What I think is especially compelling is that this report should now
> >>encourage everybody to 'do their bit' for the planet... the evidence
> >>that the report gives is, frankly, stunning. It points directly to the
> >>striking detrimental effects of excessive livestock farming on the
> >>environment. It generates 65% of human-related nitrous oxide, which
> >>has 296 times the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of CO2. Most of this
> >>comes from manure.
>
> >>By simply considering altering eating habits people can strike a blow
> >>for the environment, our children and the future. Such facts and data
> >>as those listed above can't be ignored."
>
> >>Good words from Sir Paul McCartney and excellent food for thought this
> >>Holiday season as the massive festive dinners continue on through New
> >>Years. For those of us not vegetarian, consider reducing your intake
> >>this year and making an effort to invite more green into your diets.
> >>Every little bit helps. We can all be conscious of the impact our food
> >>has on the world.
>
> >>via the press association
>
> >>5 Comments Tagged: heather mills, paul-mccartney
> >>5 Responses to "Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The
> >>Environment"
>
> >>quanyinmeditator says on December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
> >>What is really upsetting about this is that this report has been out
> >>for a year, and after Paul's press release, all of 4 news media
> >>outlets (including your own) reported on it. One thing he did not
> >>point out was that it was the Livestock group at the United Nations
> >>Food and Agricutlure Organization which put out the report. The
> >>Livestock group!! Saying eating meat is responsible for 18% of the
> >>worlds green house gases! And the press has not picked up on it. And
> >>the University of Chicago did a study saying that by going vegan for a
> >>year, you save 50% more emissions than by driving a Prius. And its a
> >>whole lot cheaper to eat a vegan meal than to buy a Prius!
>
> >>carol says on December 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
> >>give example substituts and I'll change.have the supermarkets sell
> >>different items and I'll buy it. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY CHANGE. SHOW
> >>EXAMPLES.
>
> >>deena says on December 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
> >>I went "fish-only-every-now-and-then vegetarian" 2 years ago.
> >>Transitioning from meat was not hard at all. It takes some time to
> >>research online what looks good to you, and then what is available in
> >>your grocery.
>
> >>animalfriend says on December 20th, 2007 at 8:27 am
> >>Sir Paul is wise and a great personality, indeed!
>
> >>Dana says on December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
> >>for Carol: Whole Foods, Wild Oats and Trader Joe's have a great
> >>selection of vegetarian and vegan prepared food items, both fresh and
> >>frozen. Whole Foods has a great selection of the raw ingredients for
> >>cooking vegetarian or vegan from scratch, such as organic lentils,
> >>beans and nuts in the bulk section as well as canned and frozen. The
> >>above retailers also offer all kinds of soy and nut milks, soy
> >>yogurts, soy and nut butters and "mock-meat" substitutes like veggie
> >>bacon, veggie beef (great for tacos, which I had a few nights ago) and
> >>veggie sausage. And more and more mainstream grocery stores like
> >>Safeway and Giant offer vegetarian products as well.
>
> >>For veggie friendly restaurants go towww.happycow.org
>
> >>There's plenty of vegetarian-oriented websites that help people make
> >>the transition to eating less or no meat. Just do some googling and
> >>you'll find them. One great one is vegforlife.org
>
> >Angus Macmillan
> >www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
> >www.killhunting.org
> >www.con-servation.org.uk
>
> >All truth passes through three stages:
> >First, it is ridiculed;
> >Second, it is violently opposed; and
> >Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
> >-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Paul learned compassion for animals from Linda.

On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:01:48 -0800 (PST), "Ronald 'More-More' Moshki"
 wrote:

>On Jan 22, 6:01 am, Old Codger 
>wrote:
>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:01:08 +0000, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:14:21 +0000, Old Codger
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >I saw the report and interview on TV and thought it was very good.
>>
>> It was excellent and unbiased, had nothing to do with veggie/meat
>> ethics and was a wake up call to anyone who cares for the planet and
>> consequently their children and children's children
>>
>>
>>
>> >>Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The Environment
>>
>> >>While he stopped short of recommending rat's milk as an alternative,
>> >>musician Paul McCartney did follow in the footsteps of his former wife
>> >>Heather Mills by advocating for increased diets of vegetables and less
>> >>meat.
>>
>> >>The former Beatle drew attention to a United Nations report which
>> >>found that the livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas
>> >>emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent - 18% - than transport. In a
>> >>letter to the UK Press Association, he outlined the dramatic effects
>> >>eating meat has on the planet -- including the facts that 70% of former
>> >>forests in the Amazon have been turned over to grazing and that
>> >>livestock now use 30% of the entire world's land surface. From his
>> >>letter,
>>
>> >>"That this message comes directly from an authoritative body such as
>> >>the UN (whose member states, it should be remembered, are not
>> >>generally considered vegetarian) rather than an organisation committed
>> >>to vegetarianism is significant.
>>
>> >>What I think is especially compelling is that this report should now
>> >>encourage everybody to 'do their bit' for the planet... the evidence
>> >>that the report gives is, frankly, stunning. It points directly to the
>> >>striking detrimental effects of excessive livestock farming on the
>> >>environment. It generates 65% of human-related nitrous oxide, which
>> >>has 296 times the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of CO2. Most of this
>> >>comes from manure.
>>
>> >>By simply considering altering eating habits people can strike a blow
>> >>for the environment, our children and the future. Such facts and data
>> >>as those listed above can't be ignored."
>>
>> >>Good words from Sir Paul McCartney and excellent food for thought this
>> >>Holiday season as the massive festive dinners continue on through New
>> >>Years. For those of us not vegetarian, consider reducing your intake
>> >>this year and making an effort to invite more green into your diets.
>> >>Every little bit helps. We can all be conscious of the impact our food
>> >>has on the world.
>>
>> >>via the press association
>>
>> >>5 Comments Tagged: heather mills, paul-mccartney
>> >>5 Responses to "Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The
>> >>Environment"
>>
>> >>quanyinmeditator says on December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
>> >>What is really upsetting about this is that this report has been out
>> >>for a year, and after Paul's press release, all of 4 news media
>> >>outlets (including your own) reported on it. One thing he did not
>> >>point out was that it was the Livestock group at the United Nations
>> >>Food and Agricutlure Organization which put out the report. The
>> >>Livestock group!! Saying eating meat is responsible for 18% of the
>> >>worlds green house gases! And the press has not picked up on it. And
>> >>the University of Chicago did a study saying that by going vegan for a
>> >>year, you save 50% more emissions than by driving a Prius. And its a
>> >>whole lot cheaper to eat a vegan meal than to buy a Prius!
>>
>> >>carol says on December 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
>> >>give example substituts and I'll change.have the supermarkets sell
>> >>different items and I'll buy it. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY CHANGE. SHOW
>> >>EXAMPLES.
>>
>> >>deena says on December 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
>> >>I went "fish-only-every-now-and-then vegetarian" 2 years ago.
>> >>Transitioning from meat was not hard at all. It takes some time to
>> >>research online what looks good to you, and then what is available in
>> >>your grocery.
>>
>> >>animalfriend says on December 20th, 2007 at 8:27 am
>> >>Sir Paul is wise and a great personality, indeed!
>>
>> >>Dana says on December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
>> >>for Carol: Whole Foods, Wild Oats and Trader Joe's have a great
>> >>selection of vegetarian and vegan prepared food items, both fresh and
>> >>frozen. Whole Foods has a great selection of the raw ingredients for
>> >>cooking vegetarian or vegan from scratch, such as organic lentils,
>> >>beans and nuts in the bulk section as well as canned and frozen. The
>> >>above retailers also offer all kinds of soy and nut milks, soy
>> >>yogurts, soy and nut butters and "mock-meat" substitutes like veggie
>> >>bacon, veggie beef (great for tacos, which I had a few nights ago) and
>> >>veggie sausage. And more and more mainstream grocery stores like
>> >>Safeway and Giant offer vegetarian products as well.
>>
>> >>For veggie friendly restaurants go towww.happycow.org
>>
>> >>There's plenty of vegetarian-oriented websites that help people make
>> >>the transition to eating less or no meat. Just do some googling and
>> >>you'll find them. One great one is vegforlife.org
>>
>> >Angus Macmillan
>> >www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
>> >www.killhunting.org
>> >www.con-servation.org.uk
>>
>> >All truth passes through three stages:
>> >First, it is ridiculed;
>> >Second, it is violently opposed; and
>> >Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
>> >-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>
>Paul learned compassion for animals from Linda.

Absolutely right, but he did say he had done so from both women in his
life.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:02:05 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:

>On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:01:48 -0800 (PST), "Ronald 'More-More' Moshki"
> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 22, 6:01 am, Old Codger 
>>wrote:
>>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:01:08 +0000, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>>> >On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:14:21 +0000, Old Codger
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >I saw the report and interview on TV and thought it was very good.
>>>
>>> It was excellent and unbiased, had nothing to do with veggie/meat
>>> ethics and was a wake up call to anyone who cares for the planet and
>>> consequently their children and children's children
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The Environment
>>>
>>> >>While he stopped short of recommending rat's milk as an alternative,
>>> >>musician Paul McCartney did follow in the footsteps of his former wife
>>> >>Heather Mills by advocating for increased diets of vegetables and less
>>> >>meat.
>>>
>>> >>The former Beatle drew attention to a United Nations report which
>>> >>found that the livestock sector generates more greenhouse gas
>>> >>emissions as measured in CO2 equivalent - 18% - than transport. In a
>>> >>letter to the UK Press Association, he outlined the dramatic effects
>>> >>eating meat has on the planet -- including the facts that 70% of former
>>> >>forests in the Amazon have been turned over to grazing and that
>>> >>livestock now use 30% of the entire world's land surface. From his
>>> >>letter,
>>>
>>> >>"That this message comes directly from an authoritative body such as
>>> >>the UN (whose member states, it should be remembered, are not
>>> >>generally considered vegetarian) rather than an organisation committed
>>> >>to vegetarianism is significant.
>>>
>>> >>What I think is especially compelling is that this report should now
>>> >>encourage everybody to 'do their bit' for the planet... the evidence
>>> >>that the report gives is, frankly, stunning. It points directly to the
>>> >>striking detrimental effects of excessive livestock farming on the
>>> >>environment. It generates 65% of human-related nitrous oxide, which
>>> >>has 296 times the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of CO2. Most of this
>>> >>comes from manure.
>>>
>>> >>By simply considering altering eating habits people can strike a blow
>>> >>for the environment, our children and the future. Such facts and data
>>> >>as those listed above can't be ignored."
>>>
>>> >>Good words from Sir Paul McCartney and excellent food for thought this
>>> >>Holiday season as the massive festive dinners continue on through New
>>> >>Years. For those of us not vegetarian, consider reducing your intake
>>> >>this year and making an effort to invite more green into your diets.
>>> >>Every little bit helps. We can all be conscious of the impact our food
>>> >>has on the world.
>>>
>>> >>via the press association
>>>
>>> >>5 Comments Tagged: heather mills, paul-mccartney
>>> >>5 Responses to "Paul McCartney Urges World To Go Veggie For The
>>> >>Environment"
>>>
>>> >>quanyinmeditator says on December 19th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
>>> >>What is really upsetting about this is that this report has been out
>>> >>for a year, and after Paul's press release, all of 4 news media
>>> >>outlets (including your own) reported on it. One thing he did not
>>> >>point out was that it was the Livestock group at the United Nations
>>> >>Food and Agricutlure Organization which put out the report. The
>>> >>Livestock group!! Saying eating meat is responsible for 18% of the
>>> >>worlds green house gases! And the press has not picked up on it. And
>>> >>the University of Chicago did a study saying that by going vegan for a
>>> >>year, you save 50% more emissions than by driving a Prius. And its a
>>> >>whole lot cheaper to eat a vegan meal than to buy a Prius!
>>>
>>> >>carol says on December 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
>>> >>give example substituts and I'll change.have the supermarkets sell
>>> >>different items and I'll buy it. YOU CAN'T JUST SAY CHANGE. SHOW
>>> >>EXAMPLES.
>>>
>>> >>deena says on December 19th, 2007 at 8:53 pm
>>> >>I went "fish-only-every-now-and-then vegetarian" 2 years ago.
>>> >>Transitioning from meat was not hard at all. It takes some time to
>>> >>research online what looks good to you, and then what is available in
>>> >>your grocery.
>>>
>>> >>animalfriend says on December 20th, 2007 at 8:27 am
>>> >>Sir Paul is wise and a great personality, indeed!
>>>
>>> >>Dana says on December 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
>>> >>for Carol: Whole Foods, Wild Oats and Trader Joe's have a great
>>> >>selection of vegetarian and vegan prepared food items, both fresh and
>>> >>frozen. Whole Foods has a great selection of the raw ingredients for
>>> >>cooking vegetarian or vegan from scratch, such as organic lentils,
>>> >>beans and nuts in the bulk section as well as canned and frozen. The
>>> >>above retailers also offer all kinds of soy and nut milks, soy
>>> >>yogurts, soy and nut butters and "mock-meat" substitutes like veggie
>>> >>bacon, veggie beef (great for tacos, which I had a few nights ago) and
>>> >>veggie sausage. And more and more mainstream grocery stores like
>>> >>Safeway and Giant offer vegetarian products as well.
>>>
>>> >>For veggie friendly restaurants go towww.happycow.org
>>>
>>> >>There's plenty of vegetarian-oriented websites that help people make
>>> >>the transition to eating less or no meat. Just do some googling and
>>> >>you'll find them. One great one is vegforlife.org
>>>
>>> >Angus Macmillan
>>> >www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
>>> >www.killhunting.org
>>> >www.con-servation.org.uk
>>>
>>> >All truth passes through three stages:
>>> >First, it is ridiculed;
>>> >Second, it is violently opposed; and
>>> >Third, it is accepted as self-evident.
>>> >-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>
>>Paul learned compassion for animals from Linda.
>
>Absolutely right, but he did say he had done so from both women in his
>life.

Yes a magnanimous gesture and it was clear the interviewer was trying
to get some dirt.

Well done Sir Paul a good tackle.