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date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:03:59 +0000,    group: uk.environment.conservation        back       
The Bird Brains   
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=507155&in_page_id=1770

The RSPB advertise and encourage birdwatching that encourages people
to travel thousands of miles which is environmentally damaging to the
natural environment.

Fake conservationists!




Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:03:59 +0000   author:   unknown

Re: The Bird Brains   
wrote in message 
news:4mqco3t81jp0k1m791g87b7282jqt4u0lu@4ax.com...
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=507155&in_page_id=1770
>
> The RSPB advertise and encourage birdwatching that encourages people
> to travel thousands of miles which is environmentally damaging to the
> natural environment.
>
> Fake conservationists!
>
>

The news story concerns obsessive 'twitchers', not conservationists.
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:44:37 -0000   author:   BAC

Re: The Bird Brains   
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:44:37 -0000, "BAC"
 wrote:

>
> wrote in message 
>news:4mqco3t81jp0k1m791g87b7282jqt4u0lu@4ax.com...
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=507155&in_page_id=1770
>>
>> The RSPB advertise and encourage birdwatching that encourages people
>> to travel thousands of miles which is environmentally damaging to the
>> natural environment.
>>
>> Fake conservationists!
>>
>>
>
>The news story concerns obsessive 'twitchers', not conservationists. 
>


Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
same time tell us not to "cook the planet".


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:40:52 +0000   author:   unknown

Re: The Bird Brains   
In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:44:37 -0000, "BAC"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> wrote in message
>>news:4mqco3t81jp0k1m791g87b7282jqt4u0lu@4ax.com...
>>> 
>>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic
>>>le_id=507155&in_page_id=1770
>>>
>>> The RSPB advertise and encourage birdwatching that encourages people
>>> to travel thousands of miles which is environmentally damaging to the
>>> natural environment.
>>>
>>> Fake conservationists!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The news story concerns obsessive 'twitchers', not conservationists.
>>
>
>
>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>
Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to 
travel to twitch".

-- 
Malcolm
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000   author:   Malcolm

Re: The Bird Brains   
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:44:37 -0000, "BAC"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> wrote in message
>>>news:4mqco3t81jp0k1m791g87b7282jqt4u0lu@4ax.com...
>>>> 
>>>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic
>>>>le_id=507155&in_page_id=1770
>>>>
>>>> The RSPB advertise and encourage birdwatching that encourages people
>>>> to travel thousands of miles which is environmentally damaging to the
>>>> natural environment.
>>>>
>>>> Fake conservationists!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>The news story concerns obsessive 'twitchers', not conservationists.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>
>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to 
>travel to twitch".

It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:55:14 +0000   author:   unknown

Re: The Bird Brains   
In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>
>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>
>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>travel to twitch".
>
>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>
You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't 
think you had any evidence.

-- 
Malcolm
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000   author:   Malcolm

Re: The Bird Brains   
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>
>>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>>
>>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>>travel to twitch".
>>
>>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>>
>You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't 
>think you had any evidence.

Well, bird watchers.  One's as bad as the other.

They're all twitchers to me.

And they're being encouraged to travel by the RSPB who tells us not to
"cook the planet" - except where it seems to make them money :-((


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:37:58 +0000   author:   unknown

Re: The Bird Brains   
In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>In article ,
>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>>>
>>>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>>>travel to twitch".
>>>
>>>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>>>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>>>
>>You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't
>>think you had any evidence.
>
>Well, bird watchers.  One's as bad as the other.
>
That might be your opinion, but you might just once in a while try to 
get your facts right.

>They're all twitchers to me.
>
Well, they're not the same, so you've learnt something new :-)

>And they're being encouraged to travel by the RSPB who tells us not to
>"cook the planet" - except where it seems to make them money :-((
>
Obsession alert!!


-- 
Malcolm
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:19 +0000   author:   Malcolm

Re: The Bird Brains   
In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article
>_id=507155&in_page_id=1770
>
>The RSPB advertise and encourage birdwatching that encourages people
>to travel thousands of miles which is environmentally damaging to the
>natural environment.
>
>Fake conservationists!
>
Casual readers take note that Angus does have a down on conservation and 
is incapable of naming any conservation organisation world wide which he 
approves of.

However he does claim to not be against conservation.  Make your won 
mind up after you have followed a thread or two.
-- 
Malcolm Kane
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:36:07 +0000   author:   Malcolm Kane

Re: The Bird Brains   
In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:44:37 -0000, "BAC"
> wrote:
>
>>
>> wrote in message
>>news:4mqco3t81jp0k1m791g87b7282jqt4u0lu@4ax.com...
>>> 
>>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_artic
>>>le_id=507155&in_page_id=1770
>>>
>>> The RSPB advertise and encourage birdwatching that encourages people
>>> to travel thousands of miles which is environmentally damaging to the
>>> natural environment.
>>>
>>> Fake conservationists!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The news story concerns obsessive 'twitchers', not conservationists.
>>
>
>
>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>
Clear proof that Angus hasn't a clue about what a twitcher is.

Like many Angus make the mistake of thinking all birdwatchers are 
twitchers.

A will guarantee he can not show anywhere that the RSPB encourages 
twitchers to travel.

Yet again he opens his mouth and outs his foot in it :-)))))
-- 
Malcolm Kane
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:38:27 +0000   author:   Malcolm Kane

Re: The Bird Brains   
In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>>
>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>
>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>travel to twitch".
>
>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>
However that isn't twitching so yet again Angus exposes his ignorance of 
the subject he is pontificating on.
-- 
Malcolm Kane
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:39:42 +0000   author:   Malcolm Kane

Re: The Bird Brains   
In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>In article ,
>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>>>
>>>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>>>travel to twitch".
>>>
>>>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>>>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>>>
>>You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't
>>think you had any evidence.
>
>Well, bird watchers.  One's as bad as the other.
>
>They're all twitchers to me.

Casual readers note the change of direction.  Angus latches on to an 
article about a particular form of person, then tries to use it as a 
stick to beat the RSPB with.   Typical of his anti conservation 
vendetta.

Now when he has realised that his lack of knowledge has been exposed be 
tries to twist his thread.

>
>And they're being encouraged to travel by the RSPB who tells us not to
>"cook the planet" - except where it seems to make them money :-((

Again the casual reader needs to understand that Angus' idea of the RSPB 
encouraging people to travel means they accept adverts from companies 
for their magazine.

Angus doesn't seem to realise that this raises money for conservation 
and anyway he doesn't allow facts to get in the way of his vendetta.
-- 
Malcolm Kane
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:44:18 +0000   author:   Malcolm Kane

Re: The Bird Brains   
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:19 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000, Malcolm
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>>>>
>>>>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>>>>travel to twitch".
>>>>
>>>>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>>>>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>>>>
>>>You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't
>>>think you had any evidence.
>>
>>Well, bird watchers.  One's as bad as the other.
>>
>That might be your opinion, but you might just once in a while try to 
>get your facts right.
>
>>They're all twitchers to me.
>>
>Well, they're not the same, so you've learnt something new :-)
>

What' the difference?


>>And they're being encouraged to travel by the RSPB who tells us not to
>>"cook the planet" - except where it seems to make them money :-((
>>
>Obsession alert!!

Yes. The RSPB's  obsession with money.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:10:16 +0000   author:   unknown

Re: The Bird Brains   
In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:19 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000, Malcolm
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>In article ,
>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>>>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>>>>>travel to twitch".
>>>>>
>>>>>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>>>>>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>>>>>
>>>>You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't
>>>>think you had any evidence.
>>>
>>>Well, bird watchers.  One's as bad as the other.
>>>
>>That might be your opinion, but you might just once in a while try to
>>get your facts right.
>>
>>>They're all twitchers to me.
>>>
>>Well, they're not the same, so you've learnt something new :-)
>>
>
>What' the difference?
>
You've been told this before. Look it up.

>
>>>And they're being encouraged to travel by the RSPB who tells us not to
>>>"cook the planet" - except where it seems to make them money :-((
>>>
>>Obsession alert!!
>
>Yes. The RSPB's  obsession with money.
>
A charity raises money to spend on its aims, Angus. Even *you* must know 
that.

-- 
Malcolm
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:35:28 +0000   author:   Malcolm

Re: The Bird Brains   
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:35:28 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:19 +0000, Malcolm
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000, Malcolm
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>>>>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>>>>>>travel to twitch".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>>>>>>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't
>>>>>think you had any evidence.
>>>>
>>>>Well, bird watchers.  One's as bad as the other.
>>>>
>>>That might be your opinion, but you might just once in a while try to
>>>get your facts right.
>>>
>>>>They're all twitchers to me.
>>>>
>>>Well, they're not the same, so you've learnt something new :-)
>>>
>>
>>What' the difference?
>>
>You've been told this before. Look it up.
>

So can't say.  As I said one's a bad as the other and there's little
difference if any.

Twitching is a British term, meaning "the observation of a previously
located rare bird". 

Birdwatching or birding is the observation and study of birds with the
naked eye or through a visual enhancement device like binoculars

>>
>>>>And they're being encouraged to travel by the RSPB who tells us not to
>>>>"cook the planet" - except where it seems to make them money :-((
>>>>
>>>Obsession alert!!
>>
>>Yes. The RSPB's  obsession with money.
>>
>A charity raises money to spend on its aims, Angus. Even *you* must know 
>that.

So why's it telling us not to cook the planet and accepting paying
adverts for world-wide travel?

Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:35:00 +0000   author:   unknown

Re: The Bird Brains   
In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:35:28 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:19 +0000, Malcolm
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>In article ,
>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>>>>>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>>>>>>>travel to twitch".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>>>>>>>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't
>>>>>>think you had any evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, bird watchers.  One's as bad as the other.
>>>>>
>>>>That might be your opinion, but you might just once in a while try to
>>>>get your facts right.
>>>>
>>>>>They're all twitchers to me.
>>>>>
>>>>Well, they're not the same, so you've learnt something new :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>What' the difference?
>>>
>>You've been told this before. Look it up.
>>
>
>So can't say.  As I said one's a bad as the other and there's little
>difference if any.

To the casual reader.  You will notice Angus uses double standards he 
says "do your own research" and refuses to answer questions when asked. 
However he always assumes that when others play him at his own game they 
are unable to answer.

To me this is clear confirmation that when he uses these tactics he 
can't answer or knows that to answer would destroy the position he has 
taken.

>
>Twitching is a British term, meaning "the observation of a previously
>located rare bird".
>
>Birdwatching or birding is the observation and study of birds with the
>naked eye or through a visual enhancement device like binoculars

Which clearly shows that while Angus can look up a definition he doesn't 
understand what a huge difference there is between the two pastimes.

>

-- 
Malcolm Kane
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:22:29 +0000   author:   Malcolm Kane

Re: The Bird Brains   
In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 07:35:28 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:53:19 +0000, Malcolm
>>> wrote:
>>>>In article ,
>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:14:37 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:00:05 +0000, Malcolm
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, the RSPB encourages these people to travel to "twitch" and at the
>>>>>>>>>same time tell us not to "cook the planet".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Please produce your evidence that the RSPB "encourages these people to
>>>>>>>>travel to twitch".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It advertises holidays to view birds and says on it's website what
>>>>>>>birds are at what reserves.  Haven't you noticed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>You are mistaken if you think that would interest "twitchers". I didn't
>>>>>>think you had any evidence.
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, bird watchers.  One's as bad as the other.
>>>>>
>>>>That might be your opinion, but you might just once in a while try to
>>>>get your facts right.
>>>>
>>>>>They're all twitchers to me.
>>>>>
>>>>Well, they're not the same, so you've learnt something new :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>What' the difference?
>>>
>>You've been told this before. Look it up.
>>
>
>So can't say.  As I said one's a bad as the other and there's little
>difference if any.
>
>Twitching is a British term, meaning "the observation of a previously
>located rare bird".
>
>Birdwatching or birding is the observation and study of birds with the
>naked eye or through a visual enhancement device like binoculars
>
Hurrah!

Angus has actually looked something up when told to. There, that wasn't 
too difficult, was it?

Unfortunately, your comprehension skills are lacking if you think those 
two obviously different definitions mean there is "little difference" 
between them :-(

>>>
>>>>>And they're being encouraged to travel by the RSPB who tells us not to
>>>>>"cook the planet" - except where it seems to make them money :-((
>>>>>
>>>>Obsession alert!!
>>>
>>>Yes. The RSPB's  obsession with money.
>>>
>>A charity raises money to spend on its aims, Angus. Even *you* must know
>>that.
>
>So why's it telling us not to cook the planet and accepting paying
>adverts for world-wide travel?
>
I'm glad you accept that charities raise money to spend on their aims.

-- 
Malcolm
date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 22:03:33 +0000   author:   Malcolm

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