Now, there's a clever dog.

http://news.aol.co.uk/dog-shoots-owner-dead-in-us/article/20080108073009990010


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>Now, there's a clever dog.
>

Now there is a sick mind!
-- 
Malcolm Kane

In article <VM$56PCUTRhHFwdF@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane 
 writes
>In message , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>
>
>Now there is a sick mind!

Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has 
gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(

-- 
Malcolm

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHFwdF@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane 
> writes
>>In message , 
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>
>>
>>Now there is a sick mind!
>
>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has 
>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(


I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHFwdF@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>> writes
>>>In message ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>
>>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>
>
>I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>

So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in 
Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(


-- 
Malcolm

On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
> In article ,
> amacmil...@aol.com writes
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
> > wrote:
>
> >>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHF...@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
> >> writes
> >>>In message ,
> >>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>
> >>>Now there is a sick mind!
>
> >>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
> >>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>
> >I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
> >to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>
> So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in
> Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(

It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.

In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHFwdF@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>> writes
>>>In message ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>
>>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>
>
>I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>
You would think Angus was out to confirm my opinion.
-- 
Malcolm Kane

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 21:28:51 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHFwdF@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>>> writes
>>>>In message ,
>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>>
>>>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>>>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>>
>>
>>I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>>to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>>
>
>So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in 
>Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(

Not at all. It's a different situation.  They  are shooting at those
who can shoot back - and they shouldn't be there in the first place.

If the politicians who sent them there got shot then I would say there
was an element of justice.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:27 -0800 (PST), "John M."
 wrote:

>On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
>> In article ,
>> amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHF...@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>> >> writes
>> >>>In message ,
>> >>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>
>> >>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>
>> >>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>> >>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>>
>> >I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>> >to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>>
>> So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in
>> Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(
>
>It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
>concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.

I would certainly have not.  I have no problems with defending one's
country against aggressors and I would kill any animal that attacked
me, in self defence.    I have said that before.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:27 -0800 (PST), "John M."
> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>>
>>> >On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHF...@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>>> >> writes
>>> >>>In message ,
>>> >>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>> >>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>
>>> >>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>>
>>> >>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>>> >>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>>>
>>> >I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>>> >to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>>>
>>> So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in
>>> Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(
>>
>>It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
>>concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.
>
>I would certainly have not.  I have no problems with defending one's
>country against aggressors and I would kill any animal that attacked
>me, in self defence.    I have said that before.
>
That belated wriggle is no good, is it? Your statement didn't 
distinguish between different circumstances, it was just the gloat of a 
very sick mind. You've done it before, not just shooting accidents, but 
people losing their lives when out walking in the countryside. It was 
obviously you speaking from your heart and gloating about someone's 
death.

-- 
Malcolm

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:26:06 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:27 -0800 (PST), "John M."
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
>>>> In article ,
>>>> amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>>>
>>>> >On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHF...@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>>>> >> writes
>>>> >>>In message ,
>>>> >>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>>> >>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>>
>>>> >>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>>>
>>>> >>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>>>> >>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>>>>
>>>> >I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>>>> >to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>>>>
>>>> So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in
>>>> Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(
>>>
>>>It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
>>>concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.
>>
>>I would certainly have not.  I have no problems with defending one's
>>country against aggressors and I would kill any animal that attacked
>>me, in self defence.    I have said that before.
>>
>That belated wriggle is no good, is it? Your statement didn't 
>distinguish between different circumstances, it was just the gloat of a 
>very sick mind. You've done it before, not just shooting accidents, but 
>people losing their lives when out walking in the countryside. It was 
>obviously you speaking from your heart and gloating about someone's 
>death.


It's not a belated wriggle and your dishonesty is showing again.

It is poetic justice when someone out to kill defenceless wildlife
gets shot by their own gun.   It's a taste of their own medicine.

I have suggested that organisations that specifically invite people on
their land for recreational purposes should erect fencing at points
where there are steep drops.  A number of children have been killed by
falling, so this would be a measure to protect life.

I have never had any problem with killing any animal, human or
otherwise, that attacks the individual - that's self defence.

I have stated the reason why I would not have been a conscientious
objector. 



Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 00:26:29 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:

>Now, there's a clever dog.
>
>http://news.aol.co.uk/dog-shoots-owner-dead-in-us/article/20080108073009990010
>
>

Grim justice. Shame it didn't happen to Ogilvie!









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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHFwdF@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane 
> writes
>>In message , 
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>
>>
>>Now there is a sick mind!
>
>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has 
>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(

There's nothing *fellow* about it. What kind of warped world you live
in where you expect sympathy for someone who kills wildlife for fun
and dies by his own sword! It's a bit like not expecting us to have a
party when you snuff it!







--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:27 -0800 (PST), "John M."
 wrote:

>On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
>> In article ,
>> amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHF...@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>> >> writes
>> >>>In message ,
>> >>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>
>> >>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>
>> >>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>> >>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>>
>> >I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>> >to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>>
>> So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in
>> Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(
>
>It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
>concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.

Or if he would have just run and hid like your kind!









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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:26:06 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:27 -0800 (PST), "John M."
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
>>>> In article ,
>>>> amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>>>
>>>> >On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHF...@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>>>> >> writes
>>>> >>>In message ,
>>>> >>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>>> >>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>>
>>>> >>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>>>
>>>> >>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>>>> >>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>>>>
>>>> >I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>>>> >to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>>>>
>>>> So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in
>>>> Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(
>>>
>>>It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
>>>concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.
>>
>>I would certainly have not.  I have no problems with defending one's
>>country against aggressors and I would kill any animal that attacked
>>me, in self defence.    I have said that before.
>>
>That belated wriggle is no good, is it? Your statement didn't 
>distinguish between different circumstances, it was just the gloat of a 
>very sick mind. You've done it before, not just shooting accidents, but 
>people losing their lives when out walking in the countryside. It was 
>obviously you speaking from your heart and gloating about someone's 
>death.

That reminds me of you milking a well known  and respected
ornithologist after he had died for all it was worth, with lies like
"he was my best friend", although it backfired on you in the end.
Showed you up for the despicable person you are.









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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Jan 10, 9:35 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:26:06 +0000, Malcolm
>
>
>
>  wrote:
>
> >In article ,
> >amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >>On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:27 -0800 (PST), "John M."
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
> >>>> In article ,
> >>>> amacmil...@aol.com writes
>
> >>>> >On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
> >>>> > wrote:
>
> >>>> >>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHF...@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
> >>>> >> writes
> >>>> >>>In message ,
> >>>> >>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >>>> >>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>
> >>>> >>>Now there is a sick mind!
>
> >>>> >>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
> >>>> >>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>
> >>>> >I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
> >>>> >to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>
> >>>> So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in
> >>>> Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(
>
> >>>It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
> >>>concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.
>
> >>I would certainly have not.  I have no problems with defending one's
> >>country against aggressors and I would kill any animal that attacked
> >>me, in self defence.    I have said that before.
>
> >That belated wriggle is no good, is it? Your statement didn't
> >distinguish between different circumstances, it was just the gloat of a
> >very sick mind. You've done it before, not just shooting accidents, but
> >people losing their lives when out walking in the countryside. It was
> >obviously you speaking from your heart and gloating about someone's
> >death.
>
> It's not a belated wriggle and your dishonesty is showing again.
>
> It is poetic justice when someone out to kill defenceless wildlife
> gets shot by their own gun.   It's a taste of their own medicine.
>
> I have suggested that organisations that specifically invite people on
> their land for recreational purposes should erect fencing at points
> where there are steep drops.  A number of children have been killed by
> falling, so this would be a measure to protect life.
>
> I have never had any problem with killing any animal, human or
> otherwise, that attacks the individual - that's self defence.
>
> I have stated the reason why I would not have been a conscientious
> objector.

So call up for an Iraq-style invasion would've stumped you, wouldn't
it? It was clear from the first that Britain's PM at the time was
deluded, and undertook a war of aggression as though it were
defensive. Or did you believe differently when it started?

In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:49:27 -0800 (PST), "John M."
> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 9, 10:28 pm, Malcolm  wrote:
>>> In article ,
>>> amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >On Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:48:53 +0000, Malcolm
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>In article <VM$56PCUTRhHF...@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk>, Malcolm Kane
>>> >> writes
>>> >>>In message ,
>>> >>>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>> >>>>Now, there's a clever dog.
>>>
>>> >>>Now there is a sick mind!
>>>
>>> >>Indeed, but then we already knew that from other occasions when he has
>>> >>gloated over the unfortunate death of a fellow human being :-(
>>>
>>> >I think it's poetic justice that one who goes out with the intention
>>> >to kill gets killed himself by his own weapon.
>>>
>>> So doubtless you would gloat the same way if one of our soldiers in
>>> Afghanistan was unfortunate enough to die in this way :-(
>>
>>It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
>>concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.
>
>I would certainly have not.  I have no problems with defending one's
>country against aggressors and I would kill any animal that attacked
>me, in self defence.    I have said that before.
>
Personally I would consider only a sick mind would place a human life 
over an animals.  However that appears to be typical animal rights 
indulging in terrorism and body snatching.
-- 
Malcolm Kane

In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 07:26:06 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>>It would be interesting to know if Angus would've registered as a
>>>>concientious objector had he been the subject of a wartime call up.
>>>
>>>I would certainly have not.  I have no problems with defending one's
>>>country against aggressors and I would kill any animal that attacked
>>>me, in self defence.    I have said that before.
>>>
>>That belated wriggle is no good, is it? Your statement didn't
>>distinguish between different circumstances, it was just the gloat of a
>>very sick mind. You've done it before, not just shooting accidents, but
>>people losing their lives when out walking in the countryside. It was
>>obviously you speaking from your heart and gloating about someone's
>>death.
>
>
>It's not a belated wriggle and your dishonesty is showing again.
>
>It is poetic justice when someone out to kill defenceless wildlife
>gets shot by their own gun.   It's a taste of their own medicine.

I have great difficulty with the logic that Angus tries to apply.

He has no problem with animals being reared for food and killed. 
However he appears to have a problem with animals being killed if they 
haven't been specifically reared for food.  Its almost as if he thinks 
the animals are dead if they are killed for food.

Note for Angus the cow killed for food is just as dead as the deer shot 
and sold for venison.

Why isn't he hoping for accidents in slaughter houses to give the 
slaughter men a taste of their own medicine.

Not surely the same old theme - AR.


-- 
Malcolm Kane