Dear Sir

An "ancient" scam?

Most people will probably think if a woodland is classified as
"ancient" then it should have ancient trees that are a few hundred
years old.  Not necessarily so!

In their quest for public support in terms of memberships and
donations, conservation organisations deftly avoid mentioning ancient
trees as part of ancient woodlands. It seems they identify the latter
by looking at an early map and if a woodland site existed at that time
- anywhere between 1600 and the 1800s  - they call it an "ancient
woodland", irrespective of whether it has been clear felled, burned
out, or died off - provided there some trees on it of any age. 

Indeed, in a Freedom of Information request, English Nature advised me
that, "the term 'ancient ' refers to the history of the site and the
continuity of woodland cover, not to the age of the trees. Thus many
ancient woods have been cut-over and the trees will have regrown many
times during the last few centuries. At times an ancient wood may
consist predominantly of young trees. So native trees planted within
an ancient woodland will be part of that ancient woodland, but if
native trees are planted on an open site such as a field or block of
moorland then this does make the area an ancient wood", which makes
them little different from any other wood except that the
conservationists can put forward an emotive argument that is
financially rewarding for them.  

Perhaps we, the public, should decide what "ancient woodlands" we want
to protect and preserve on our doorstep and cut out the middle-men who
are only after our money.



Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In article , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>Dear Sir
>
Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)

-- 
Malcolm

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>Dear Sir
>>
>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)

Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?









--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:44:25 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
 wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article , 
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>Dear Sir
>>>
>>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>
>Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
>wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
>newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?

Or his acknowledgement that shooting and walking can cause deer to be
disturbed thus causing road accidents.

Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Jan 9, 12:38 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:44:25 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>
>  wrote:
> >On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
> > wrote:
>
> >>In article ,
> >>amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >>>Dear Sir
>
> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>
> >Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
> >wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
> >newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?
>
> Or his acknowledgement that shooting and walking can cause deer to be
> disturbed thus causing road accidents.

Don't tell me he/she/it-of-a-thousand-names actually slipped its
"Malcolm" sock-puppet past your radar, Angus. Have you got a really
good bottle of malt on the go? Or is old age beginning to break
through?

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:14:01 -0800 (PST), "John M."
 wrote:

>On Jan 9, 12:38 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:44:25 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >>In article ,
>> >>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >>>Dear Sir
>>
>> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>>
>> >Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
>> >wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
>> >newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?
>>
>> Or his acknowledgement that shooting and walking can cause deer to be
>> disturbed thus causing road accidents.
>
>Don't tell me he/she/it-of-a-thousand-names actually slipped its
>"Malcolm" sock-puppet past your radar, Angus. Have you got a really
>good bottle of malt on the go? Or is old age beginning to break
>through?

Not at all.

Here's what Malcolm said:

_______________

Angus:
"And it should be recognised that deer can come out of woodlands on to
roads - especially if disturbed by human activities - shooting,
dogwalkers etc."

Malcolm:
"Indeed, but on 74,000 occasions a year, there are collisions between 
deer and road users. And disturbance by shooting or walkers is only 
involved in some of them."

________________



Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Jan 10, 9:41 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:14:01 -0800 (PST), "John M."
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >On Jan 9, 12:38 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:44:25 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >>In article ,
> >> >>amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >> >>>Dear Sir
>
> >> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>
> >> >Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
> >> >wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
> >> >newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?
>
> >> Or his acknowledgement that shooting and walking can cause deer to be
> >> disturbed thus causing road accidents.
>
> >Don't tell me he/she/it-of-a-thousand-names actually slipped its
> >"Malcolm" sock-puppet past your radar, Angus. Have you got a really
> >good bottle of malt on the go? Or is old age beginning to break
> >through?
>
> Not at all.
>
> Here's what Malcolm said:
>
> _______________
>
> Angus:
> "And it should be recognised that deer can come out of woodlands on to
> roads - especially if disturbed by human activities - shooting,
> dogwalkers etc."
>
> Malcolm:
> "Indeed, but on 74,000 occasions a year, there are collisions between
> deer and road users. And disturbance by shooting or walkers is only
> involved in some of them."

Wrong thread, old bean. Back up and read post #2. Quite clearly
you*have*got a decent bottle of malt on the go ;-)

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:39:47 -0800 (PST), "John M."
 wrote:

>On Jan 10, 9:41 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:14:01 -0800 (PST), "John M."
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Jan 9, 12:38 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:44:25 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
>> >> > wrote:
>>
>> >> >>In article ,
>> >> >>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >> >>>Dear Sir
>>
>> >> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>>
>> >> >Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
>> >> >wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
>> >> >newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?
>>
>> >> Or his acknowledgement that shooting and walking can cause deer to be
>> >> disturbed thus causing road accidents.
>>
>> >Don't tell me he/she/it-of-a-thousand-names actually slipped its
>> >"Malcolm" sock-puppet past your radar, Angus. Have you got a really
>> >good bottle of malt on the go? Or is old age beginning to break
>> >through?
>>
>> Not at all.
>>
>> Here's what Malcolm said:
>>
>> _______________
>>
>> Angus:
>> "And it should be recognised that deer can come out of woodlands on to
>> roads - especially if disturbed by human activities - shooting,
>> dogwalkers etc."
>>
>> Malcolm:
>> "Indeed, but on 74,000 occasions a year, there are collisions between
>> deer and road users. And disturbance by shooting or walkers is only
>> involved in some of them."
>
>Wrong thread, old bean. Back up and read post #2. Quite clearly
>you*have*got a decent bottle of malt on the go ;-)


Not at all.  You're confused or lying.  You were answering my specific
point and I pointed out what Malcolm Ogilvie had said.  It's all
documented.

Look like you've finished your malt and the effect is still with you.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In message , 
amacmil304@aol.com writes
>On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:14:01 -0800 (PST), "John M."
> wrote:
>
>>On Jan 9, 12:38 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:44:25 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>>
>>>  wrote:
>>> >On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >>In article ,
>>> >>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>>> >>>Dear Sir
>>>
>>> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>>>
>>> >Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
>>> >wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
>>> >newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?
>>>
>>> Or his acknowledgement that shooting and walking can cause deer to be
>>> disturbed thus causing road accidents.
>>
>>Don't tell me he/she/it-of-a-thousand-names actually slipped its
>>"Malcolm" sock-puppet past your radar, Angus. Have you got a really
>>good bottle of malt on the go? Or is old age beginning to break
>>through?
>
>Not at all.
>
>Here's what Malcolm said:
>
>_______________
>
>Angus:
>"And it should be recognised that deer can come out of woodlands on to
>roads - especially if disturbed by human activities - shooting,
>dogwalkers etc."
>
>Malcolm:
>"Indeed, but on 74,000 occasions a year, there are collisions between
>deer and road users. And disturbance by shooting or walkers is only
>involved in some of them."
>
>________________
>
Typical Angus grasping at straws.  "Some" can mean anything from 
0.00000000000001% up.  Angus will try to make use of the word some as if 
it means most or a large proportion.
-- 
Malcolm Kane

On Jan 10, 2:01 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:39:47 -0800 (PST), "John M."
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >On Jan 10, 9:41 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:14:01 -0800 (PST), "John M."
>
> >>  wrote:
> >> >On Jan 9, 12:38 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:44:25 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>
> >> >>  wrote:
> >> >> >On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> >>In article ,
> >> >> >>amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >> >> >>>Dear Sir
>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >> >> >Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
> >> >> >wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
> >> >> >newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?
>
> >> >> Or his acknowledgement that shooting and walking can cause deer to be
> >> >> disturbed thus causing road accidents.
>
> >> >Don't tell me he/she/it-of-a-thousand-names actually slipped its
> >> >"Malcolm" sock-puppet past your radar, Angus. Have you got a really
> >> >good bottle of malt on the go? Or is old age beginning to break
> >> >through?
>
> >> Not at all.
>
> >> Here's what Malcolm said:
>
> >> _______________
>
> >> Angus:
> >> "And it should be recognised that deer can come out of woodlands on to
> >> roads - especially if disturbed by human activities - shooting,
> >> dogwalkers etc."
>
> >> Malcolm:
> >> "Indeed, but on 74,000 occasions a year, there are collisions between
> >> deer and road users. And disturbance by shooting or walkers is only
> >> involved in some of them."
>
> >Wrong thread, old bean. Back up and read post #2. Quite clearly
> >you*have*got a decent bottle of malt on the go ;-)
>
> Not at all.  You're confused or lying.  You were answering my specific
> point and I pointed out what Malcolm Ogilvie had said.  It's all
> documented.

I wasn't answering anything. I was pointing out that you had replied
to a post that you seemed to think contained a statement by Malcolm
when in fact it wasn't. I was telling you to simply back up the thread
to the second post in order to see what I was referring to. Obviously
you didn't understand this - I can only imagine this was due to you
being yourself.

In order that you remain in the dark no longer about this, I have
isolated the text of the post above, by sectioning it off with dashed
lines above and below. You will note that it appears to come from
Malcolm, but is in fact a forgery, most likely by the person or thing
that replied to it very shortly after
it was posted. HTH.
Your remaining in the dark about all other aspects of human knowledge,
I can do nothing about :-(

On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:05:37 -0800 (PST), "John M."
 wrote:

>On Jan 10, 2:01 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:39:47 -0800 (PST), "John M."
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Jan 10, 9:41 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:14:01 -0800 (PST), "John M."
>>
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> >On Jan 9, 12:38 am, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:44:25 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>
>> >> >>  wrote:
>> >> >> >On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
>> >> >> > wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >>In article ,
>> >> >> >>amacmil...@aol.com writes
>> >> >> >>>Dear Sir
>>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> >> >> >Oh dear something seems to have upset Ogilvie the pedant and troll. I
>> >> >> >wonder if it could have been a letter to SNH telling them about your
>> >> >> >newsgroup stalking and bullying in their name?
>>
>> >> >> Or his acknowledgement that shooting and walking can cause deer to be
>> >> >> disturbed thus causing road accidents.
>>
>> >> >Don't tell me he/she/it-of-a-thousand-names actually slipped its
>> >> >"Malcolm" sock-puppet past your radar, Angus. Have you got a really
>> >> >good bottle of malt on the go? Or is old age beginning to break
>> >> >through?
>>
>> >> Not at all.
>>
>> >> Here's what Malcolm said:
>>
>> >> _______________
>>
>> >> Angus:
>> >> "And it should be recognised that deer can come out of woodlands on to
>> >> roads - especially if disturbed by human activities - shooting,
>> >> dogwalkers etc."
>>
>> >> Malcolm:
>> >> "Indeed, but on 74,000 occasions a year, there are collisions between
>> >> deer and road users. And disturbance by shooting or walkers is only
>> >> involved in some of them."
>>
>> >Wrong thread, old bean. Back up and read post #2. Quite clearly
>> >you*have*got a decent bottle of malt on the go ;-)
>>
>> Not at all.  You're confused or lying.  You were answering my specific
>> point and I pointed out what Malcolm Ogilvie had said.  It's all
>> documented.
>
>I wasn't answering anything. I was pointing out that you had replied
>to a post that you seemed to think contained a statement by Malcolm
>when in fact it wasn't. I was telling you to simply back up the thread
>to the second post in order to see what I was referring to. Obviously
>you didn't understand this - I can only imagine this was due to you
>being yourself.

Nonsense.


>
>In order that you remain in the dark no longer about this, I have
>isolated the text of the post above, by sectioning it off with dashed
>lines above and below. You will note that it appears to come from
>Malcolm, but is in fact a forgery, most likely by the person or thing
>that replied to it very shortly after
>it was posted. HTH.
>Your remaining in the dark about all other aspects of human knowledge,
>I can do nothing about :-(

More nonsense.  That was me referring to the earlier post.

I have the full text leading up to where Malcolm Ogilve said it.

You're obviously drunk.







Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Jan 10, 10:46 pm, amacmil...@aol.com wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:05:37 -0800 (PST), "John M."

<snip>

> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

<snip>

> >In order that you remain in the dark no longer about this, I have
> >isolated the text of the post above, by sectioning it off with dashed
> >lines above and below. You will note that it appears to come from
> >Malcolm, but is in fact a forgery, most likely by the person or thing
> >that replied to it very shortly after
> >it was posted. HTH.
> >Your remaining in the dark about all other aspects of human knowledge,
> >I can do nothing about :-(
>
> More nonsense.  That was me referring to the earlier post.

Let me understand you correctly. The line that reads,"Here is some
more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)" as it appeared in the
second post in the thread, and outlined (as above) by me in my
previous post, was*you*forging a post from Malcolm. At least you have
had the decency to admit it. I thought it was by he/she/it-of-a-
thousand-and-one names.

On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>Dear Sir
>>
>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)

That's an interesting post and clear case of bullying by an SNH
employee. I wonder what they would have to say about his behaviour
here on these newsgroups in bullying others like Pat etc.

I think we should start a campaign with SNH and the Scottish
Parliament and just see how much support Ogilvie the loose cannon has
for his bullying and stalking campaign against newsgroup members?

Martin Stubbs
Customer Relations Manager
Great Glen House
Leachkin Road
Inverness
IV3 8NW

martin.stubbs.partridge@snh.gov.uk

Then we could escalate the complaint if neccesary to
http://www.snh.org.uk/about/ab-cc05.asp
Ian Jardine
Chief Executive
Scottish Natural Heritage
Great Glen House
Leachkin Road
INVERNESS
IV3 8NW

Whilst we are at it we could also complain about his misconduct on
Usenet to

Complaints about misconduct by a board member
Standards Commission for Scotland
Forsyth House
Innova Campus
Rosyth Europarc
ROSYTH 
Fife
KY11 2UU

It cannot be right that someone on the SNH payroll is allowed to act
in this manner.









--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
 wrote:

>On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article , 
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>Dear Sir
>>>
>>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>
>That's an interesting post and clear case of bullying by an SNH
>employee. I wonder what they would have to say about his behaviour
>here on these newsgroups in bullying others like Pat etc.
>
>I think we should start a campaign with SNH and the Scottish
>Parliament and just see how much support Ogilvie the loose cannon has
>for his bullying and stalking campaign against newsgroup members?
>
>Martin Stubbs
>Customer Relations Manager
>Great Glen House
>Leachkin Road
>Inverness
>IV3 8NW
>
>martin.stubbs.partridge@snh.gov.uk
>
>Then we could escalate the complaint if neccesary to
>http://www.snh.org.uk/about/ab-cc05.asp
>Ian Jardine
>Chief Executive
>Scottish Natural Heritage
>Great Glen House
>Leachkin Road
>INVERNESS
>IV3 8NW
>
>Whilst we are at it we could also complain about his misconduct on
>Usenet to
>
>Complaints about misconduct by a board member
>Standards Commission for Scotland
>Forsyth House
>Innova Campus
>Rosyth Europarc
>ROSYTH 
>Fife
>KY11 2UU
>
>It cannot be right that someone on the SNH payroll is allowed to act
>in this manner.


http://www.snh.org.uk/about/code.asp

Boards and Committees

Code of Conduct for Members of Scottish Natural Heritage

in particular sections
6.3 You must not, in relation to contact with any person or
organisation who lobbies, do anything which contravenes this Code of
Conduct or any other relevant rule of SNH or any statutory provision. 

6.4 You must not, in relation to contact with any person or
organisation who lobbies, act in any way which could bring discredit
upon SNH. 

are clearly contravened whilst bullying on newsgroups and WWW in
letters to editors etc.









--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
news:78lho3t1kmb0l963q1m39v00b73bueaug2@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>In article ,
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>Dear Sir
>>>
>>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>
> That's an interesting post and clear case of bullying by an SNH
> employee. I wonder what they would have to say about his behaviour
> here on these newsgroups in bullying others like Pat etc.
>
> I think we should start a campaign with SNH and the Scottish
> Parliament and just see how much support Ogilvie the loose cannon has
> for his bullying and stalking campaign against newsgroup members?
>
> Martin Stubbs
> Customer Relations Manager
> Great Glen House
> Leachkin Road
> Inverness
> IV3 8NW
>
> martin.stubbs.partridge@snh.gov.uk
>
> Then we could escalate the complaint if neccesary to
> http://www.snh.org.uk/about/ab-cc05.asp
> Ian Jardine
> Chief Executive
> Scottish Natural Heritage
> Great Glen House
> Leachkin Road
> INVERNESS
> IV3 8NW
>
> Whilst we are at it we could also complain about his misconduct on
> Usenet to
>
> Complaints about misconduct by a board member
> Standards Commission for Scotland
> Forsyth House
> Innova Campus
> Rosyth Europarc
> ROSYTH
> Fife
> KY11 2UU
>
> It cannot be right that someone on the SNH payroll is allowed to act
> in this manner.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> My greatest speech to the peasants
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>
> pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>
>
>
> England / Angelic Upstarts
>
> The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
> In the way that your forefathers tell
> And never a country has been so great
> The stories Britannia could tell
>
> I never want to live my life
> Away from the golden shores
> There's never a country in the world
> With the scent of an English rose
>
> England oh England a country so great
> A land that's so fair and so true
> There'll never be any colours like
> The red the white and the blue
>
> Whenever you go to a far off land
> There's something goes with you
> The pride and the joy and the love that comes
> For your mother of red white and blue
>
> You could never be born under a flag that's like
> The one of the Union Jack
> St.Georges spirit has never died
> It all keeps coming back

Go away, idiot.
England's colours are red and white - not red white and blue.
The Union Jack is only the small Union Flag that is flown at a ships Jack 
Staff and it is NOT England's flag but is the Union flag.

You are spouting stupid and wrong facts.
Do you not know the difference between England and the UK?

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:58:02 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
 wrote:

>"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
>news:78lho3t1kmb0l963q1m39v00b73bueaug2@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>Dear Sir
>>>>
>>>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>>
>> That's an interesting post and clear case of bullying by an SNH
>> employee. I wonder what they would have to say about his behaviour
>> here on these newsgroups in bullying others like Pat etc.
>>
>> I think we should start a campaign with SNH and the Scottish
>> Parliament and just see how much support Ogilvie the loose cannon has
>> for his bullying and stalking campaign against newsgroup members?
>>
>> Martin Stubbs
>> Customer Relations Manager
>> Great Glen House
>> Leachkin Road
>> Inverness
>> IV3 8NW
>>
>> martin.stubbs.partridge@snh.gov.uk
>>
>> Then we could escalate the complaint if neccesary to
>> http://www.snh.org.uk/about/ab-cc05.asp
>> Ian Jardine
>> Chief Executive
>> Scottish Natural Heritage
>> Great Glen House
>> Leachkin Road
>> INVERNESS
>> IV3 8NW
>>
>> Whilst we are at it we could also complain about his misconduct on
>> Usenet to
>>
>> Complaints about misconduct by a board member
>> Standards Commission for Scotland
>> Forsyth House
>> Innova Campus
>> Rosyth Europarc
>> ROSYTH
>> Fife
>> KY11 2UU
>>
>> It cannot be right that someone on the SNH payroll is allowed to act
>> in this manner.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> My greatest speech to the peasants
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>>
>> pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> England / Angelic Upstarts
>>
>> The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
>> In the way that your forefathers tell
>> And never a country has been so great
>> The stories Britannia could tell
>>
>> I never want to live my life
>> Away from the golden shores
>> There's never a country in the world
>> With the scent of an English rose
>>
>> England oh England a country so great
>> A land that's so fair and so true
>> There'll never be any colours like
>> The red the white and the blue
>>
>> Whenever you go to a far off land
>> There's something goes with you
>> The pride and the joy and the love that comes
>> For your mother of red white and blue
>>
>> You could never be born under a flag that's like
>> The one of the Union Jack
>> St.Georges spirit has never died
>> It all keeps coming back
>
>Go away

Penis breath!









--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Jan 12, 10:58 pm, "Robert Peffers" 
wrote:
> "Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in messagenews:78lho3t1kmb0l963q1m39v00b73bueaug2@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Tue, 8 Jan 2008 22:01:32 +0000, Malcolm
> >  wrote:
>
> >>In article ,
> >>amacmil...@aol.com writes
> >>>Dear Sir
>
> >>Here is some more Macmillan bullshitting the public :-)
>
> > That's an interesting post and clear case of bullying by an SNH
> > employee. I wonder what they would have to say about his behaviour
> > here on these newsgroups in bullying others like Pat etc.
>
> > I think we should start a campaign with SNH and the Scottish
> > Parliament and just see how much support Ogilvie the loose cannon has
> > for his bullying and stalking campaign against newsgroup members?
>
> > Martin Stubbs
> > Customer Relations Manager
> > Great Glen House
> > Leachkin Road
> > Inverness
> > IV3 8NW
>
> > martin.stubbs.partri...@snh.gov.uk
>
> > Then we could escalate the complaint if neccesary to
> >http://www.snh.org.uk/about/ab-cc05.asp
> > Ian Jardine
> > Chief Executive
> > Scottish Natural Heritage
> > Great Glen House
> > Leachkin Road
> > INVERNESS
> > IV3 8NW
>
> > Whilst we are at it we could also complain about his misconduct on
> > Usenet to
>
> > Complaints about misconduct by a board member
> > Standards Commission for Scotland
> > Forsyth House
> > Innova Campus
> > Rosyth Europarc
> > ROSYTH
> > Fife
> > KY11 2UU
>
> > It cannot be right that someone on the SNH payroll is allowed to act
> > in this manner.
>
> > --
>
> > My greatest speech to the peasants
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>
> > pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enqui...@urfreesim.co.uk
>
> > England / Angelic Upstarts
>
> > The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
> > In the way that your forefathers tell
> > And never a country has been so great
> > The stories Britannia could tell
>
> > I never want to live my life
> > Away from the golden shores
> > There's never a country in the world
> > With the scent of an English rose
>
> > England oh England a country so great
> > A land that's so fair and so true
> > There'll never be any colours like
> > The red the white and the blue
>
> > Whenever you go to a far off land
> > There's something goes with you
> > The pride and the joy and the love that comes
> > For your mother of red white and blue
>
> > You could never be born under a flag that's like
> > The one of the Union Jack
> > St.Georges spirit has never died
> > It all keeps coming back
>
> Go away, idiot.
> England's colours are red and white - not red white and blue.
> The Union Jack is only the small Union Flag that is flown at a ships Jack
> Staff and it is NOT England's flag but is the Union flag.
>
> You are spouting stupid and wrong facts.
> Do you not know the difference between England and the UK?

As you can see from Pete's reply (that's what he called himself years
ago when he started out on Usenet), Robert, he/she/it believes him/her/
itself to be cool-literate. Let's see what little gems of language he/
she/it will disgorge in response to this post.

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
 wrote:

>--
>
>My greatest speech to the peasants
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>
>pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>
>
>
>England / Angelic Upstarts 
>
>The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
>In the way that your forefathers tell
>And never a country has been so great
>The stories Britannia could tell 
>
>I never want to live my life
>Away from the golden shores
>There's never a country in the world
>With the scent of an English rose 
>
>England oh England a country so great
>A land that's so fair and so true
>There'll never be any colours like
>The red the white and the blue 
>
>Whenever you go to a far off land
>There's something goes with you
>The pride and the joy and the love that comes
>For your mother of red white and blue 
>
>You could never be born under a flag that's like
>The one of the Union Jack
>St.Georges spirit has never died
>It all keeps coming back 


Strangely Trifleman is also unable to post correctly and starts his
posts with signature dividers (double hyphens!) just like this numpty.

Maybe the two are related.

Here was me thinking that all English people had finally realised
belatedly that the Union Flag was not the flag of England but of the
UK.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:07:14 +0000, Paul C  wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
> wrote:
>
>>--
>>
>>My greatest speech to the peasants
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>>
>>pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>England / Angelic Upstarts 
>>
>>The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
>>In the way that your forefathers tell
>>And never a country has been so great
>>The stories Britannia could tell 
>>
>>I never want to live my life
>>Away from the golden shores
>>There's never a country in the world
>>With the scent of an English rose 
>>
>>England oh England a country so great
>>A land that's so fair and so true
>>There'll never be any colours like
>>The red the white and the blue 
>>
>>Whenever you go to a far off land
>>There's something goes with you
>>The pride and the joy and the love that comes
>>For your mother of red white and blue 
>>
>>You could never be born under a flag that's like
>>The one of the Union Jack
>>St.Georges spirit has never died
>>It all keeps coming back 
>
>
>Strangely Trifleman is also unable to post correctly and starts his
>posts with signature dividers (double hyphens!) just like this numpty.
>
>Maybe the two are related.
>
>Here was me thinking that all English people had finally realised
>belatedly that the Union Flag was not the flag of England but of the
>UK.
>

Go back to school dodo/







--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

Paul C  wrote in news:8jdko31ha5vnan54792v78oo77io2gcppn@
4ax.com:

>>The one of the Union Jack
>>St.Georges spirit has never died
>>It all keeps coming back 
> 
> 
> Strangely Trifleman is also unable to post correctly and starts his
> posts with signature dividers (double hyphens!) just like this numpty.
> 
> Maybe the two are related.

Nah. I think this is the troll known as the Basildon Buffoon. 
Kill file bekons.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:19:14 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon 
wrote:

>Paul C  wrote in news:8jdko31ha5vnan54792v78oo77io2gcppn@
>4ax.com:
>
>>>The one of the Union Jack
>>>St.Georges spirit has never died
>>>It all keeps coming back 
>> 
>> 
>> Strangely Trifleman is also unable to post correctly and starts his
>> posts with signature dividers (double hyphens!) just like this numpty.
>> 
>> Maybe the two are related.
>
>Nah. I think this is the troll known as the Basildon Buffoon. 

Is that Essex or Berkshire?

>Kill file bekons.

I bet you're a BERKshire lass and sock puppet!

Stop snipping my posts Blow Job.

>>My greatest speech to the peasants
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>>
>>pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>England / Angelic Upstarts 
>>
>>The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
>>In the way that your forefathers tell
>>And never a country has been so great
>>The stories Britannia could tell 
>>
>>I never want to live my life
>>Away from the golden shores
>>There's never a country in the world
>>With the scent of an English rose 
>>
>>England oh England a country so great
>>A land that's so fair and so true
>>There'll never be any colours like
>>The red the white and the blue 
>>
>>Whenever you go to a far off land
>>There's something goes with you
>>The pride and the joy and the love that comes
>>For your mother of red white and blue 
>>
>>You could never be born under a flag that's like
>>The one of the Union Jack
>>St.Georges spirit has never died
>>It all keeps coming back 







--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

"Paul C"  wrote in message 
news:8jdko31ha5vnan54792v78oo77io2gcppn@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>  wrote:
>
>>--
>>
>>My greatest speech to the peasants
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>>
>>pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>England / Angelic Upstarts
>>
>>The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
>>In the way that your forefathers tell
>>And never a country has been so great
>>The stories Britannia could tell
>>
>>I never want to live my life
>>Away from the golden shores
>>There's never a country in the world
>>With the scent of an English rose
>>
>>England oh England a country so great
>>A land that's so fair and so true
>>There'll never be any colours like
>>The red the white and the blue
>>
>>Whenever you go to a far off land
>>There's something goes with you
>>The pride and the joy and the love that comes
>>For your mother of red white and blue
>>
>>You could never be born under a flag that's like
>>The one of the Union Jack
>>St.Georges spirit has never died
>>It all keeps coming back
>
>
> Strangely Trifleman is also unable to post correctly and starts his
> posts with signature dividers (double hyphens!) just like this numpty.
>
> Maybe the two are related.
>
> Here was me thinking that all English people had finally realised
> belatedly that the Union Flag was not the flag of England but of the
> UK.
>
>

I wonder how many of them know the words of, "Rule Britannia", were written 
by the Scottish pre-Romantic poet James Thompson (1700-1748) author of The 
Seasons (1726-30)?

-- 
The real Auld Bob Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:33:24 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
 wrote:

>"Paul C"  wrote in message 
>news:8jdko31ha5vnan54792v78oo77io2gcppn@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>My greatest speech to the peasants
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>>>
>>>pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>England / Angelic Upstarts
>>>
>>>The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
>>>In the way that your forefathers tell
>>>And never a country has been so great
>>>The stories Britannia could tell
>>>
>>>I never want to live my life
>>>Away from the golden shores
>>>There's never a country in the world
>>>With the scent of an English rose
>>>
>>>England oh England a country so great
>>>A land that's so fair and so true
>>>There'll never be any colours like
>>>The red the white and the blue
>>>
>>>Whenever you go to a far off land
>>>There's something goes with you
>>>The pride and the joy and the love that comes
>>>For your mother of red white and blue
>>>
>>>You could never be born under a flag that's like
>>>The one of the Union Jack
>>>St.Georges spirit has never died
>>>It all keeps coming back
>>
>>
>> Strangely Trifleman is also unable to post correctly and starts his
>> posts with signature dividers (double hyphens!) just like this numpty.
>>
>> Maybe the two are related.
>>
>> Here was me thinking that all English people had finally realised
>> belatedly that the Union Flag was not the flag of England but of the
>> UK.
>>
>>
>
>I wonder how many of them know the words of, "Rule Britannia", were written 
>by the Scottish pre-Romantic poet James Thompson (1700-1748) author of The 
>Seasons (1726-30)?

I wonder how many care or even what the relevance is! It's now *our
song*







--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:07:14 +0000, Paul C  wrote:

>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
> wrote:
>
>>--
>>
>>My greatest speech to the peasants
>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>>
>>pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>>England / Angelic Upstarts 
>>
>>The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
>>In the way that your forefathers tell
>>And never a country has been so great
>>The stories Britannia could tell 
>>
>>I never want to live my life
>>Away from the golden shores
>>There's never a country in the world
>>With the scent of an English rose 
>>
>>England oh England a country so great
>>A land that's so fair and so true
>>There'll never be any colours like
>>The red the white and the blue 
>>
>>Whenever you go to a far off land
>>There's something goes with you
>>The pride and the joy and the love that comes
>>For your mother of red white and blue 
>>
>>You could never be born under a flag that's like
>>The one of the Union Jack
>>St.Georges spirit has never died
>>It all keeps coming back 
>
>
>Strangely Trifleman is also unable to post correctly and starts his
>posts with signature dividers (double hyphens!) just like this numpty.
>
>Maybe the two are related.
>
>Here was me thinking that all English people had finally realised
>belatedly that the Union Flag was not the flag of England but of the
>UK.

Yes *our flag*. Pedantry must be a SCOTCH thing!

Get over that if you have time.











--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
news:gbjko3lk09hi6mgbtjiltlc1r0jdgb8ri5@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:33:24 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>  wrote:
>
>>"Paul C"  wrote in message
>>news:8jdko31ha5vnan54792v78oo77io2gcppn@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>>  wrote:
snip.
>
> I wonder how many care or even what the relevance is! It's now *our
> song*
Yes Little Dear! We know it is and you are very welcome to it.
Sorry if I upset you by pointing out the very common errors that it 
contained.

>
>
>
> --
>
> My greatest speech to the peasants
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>
> pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>
>
>
> England / Angelic Upstarts
>
> The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
> In the way that your forefathers tell
> And never a country has been so great
> The stories Britannia could tell

The trouble is that, "Britannia", signifies the, "United Kingdom Of Great 
Britain and Northern Ireland", and thus the reference to, "a country", is 
rather strange for that nation is composed of four countries. Only one of 
which is England.

Incidentally, did you know that the words of, "Rule Britannia", were written 
by a Scottish Poet?
It would also help if you punctuated the verses of the song claim as your 
own properly.
>
> I never want to live my life
> Away from the golden shores
> There's never a country in the world
> With the scent of an English rose
>
> England oh England a country so great
> A land that's so fair and so true
> There'll never be any colours like
> The red the white and the blue

Err! But England's colours are only red and white.
Of the European nations it is France, Czech Republic, Croatia, Iceland, 
Luxemborg, Netherlands, Norway, Russia, Slovak Republic, Slovenia, and 
Yogoslavia that are the countries who have the coloures red, white and blue.
While Scotland is blue and white, England is red and white and Northern 
Ireland colours are also red and white.
>
> Whenever you go to a far off land
> There's something goes with you
> The pride and the joy and the love that comes
> For your mother of red white and blue

But the red, white and blue is the colours of the Unitied Kingdom and that 
is actually four countries.
>
> You could never be born under a flag that's like
> The one of the Union Jack
> St.Georges spirit has never died
> It all keeps coming back

Yes but England's St George's cross is only one part of that Union flag. It 
also contains the flags of Scotland and Ireland.
By the way the Union jack is just a smaller version of the full Union Flag 
that gets flown at a ships Jack staff.
You do know what a jack staff is don't you?
Anyway, just carry on singing, "Your Song", (Whoever, "your", refers to), 
for it will not change the song but it will demonstrate to anyone who hears, 
"You", singing it that, "you", are a group of uneducated numpties.
By the way - I'm proud to be British and I am also proud to be Scottish. Why 
are you so reluctant to be proud of being British and English that you 
attempt to hide your English roots by ignoring your English, red and white 
St George's cross flag?
-- 
The real Auld Bob Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).

"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
news:sqjko35fup1t64f8bbit60g486msu1664b@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:07:14 +0000, Paul C  wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>> wrote:
snip.
>
> Yes *our flag*. Pedantry must be a SCOTCH thing!
>
> Get over that if you have time.
Err! No. As I pointed out to you the Union flag is all the countries of the 
UK represented by that one flag.
However, we are not confused as to what the Scottish and English parts of 
that flag are.
From the words of the song you have quoted you, very much, are confused.
-- 
The real Auld Bob Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:18:15 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
 wrote:

>"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
>news:gbjko3lk09hi6mgbtjiltlc1r0jdgb8ri5@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:33:24 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>"Paul C"  wrote in message
>>>news:8jdko31ha5vnan54792v78oo77io2gcppn@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>>>  wrote:
>snip.
>>
>> I wonder how many care or even what the relevance is! It's now *our
>> song*
>Yes Little Dear!

Thanks ducks.

>>
>> My greatest speech to the peasants
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q
>>
>> pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> England / Angelic Upstarts
>>
>> The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
>> In the way that your forefathers tell
>> And never a country has been so great
>> The stories Britannia could tell
>
>The trouble is that, "Britannia", signifies the, "United Kingdom Of Great 
>Britain and Northern Ireland", and thus the reference to, "a country", is 
>rather strange for that nation is composed of four countries. Only one of 
>which is England.

That crap could only come from a jerk off so insecure over it's
identity that it has taken up pedantry as a hobby.

Get over yourself fruity!

>Incidentally, did you know that the words of, "Rule Britannia", were written 
>by a Scottish Poet?

Who wrote it for England's identity!

>It would also help if you punctuated 

In that case I hope you wont mind being told to fuck off you pedantic
scotch troll?

No offence.









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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:23:49 -0000, "Robert Peffers"
 wrote:

>"Adenoid Hynkel ."  wrote in message 
>news:sqjko35fup1t64f8bbit60g486msu1664b@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 16:07:14 +0000, Paul C  wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:03:34 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>> wrote:
>snip.
>>
>> Yes *our flag*. Pedantry must be a SCOTCH thing!
>>
>> Get over that if you have time.

>Err! 

I agree.







--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back