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date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:55:32 +0000,    group: uk.environment.conservation        back       
Recommended viewing: BBC3 - Kill It, Cook It, Eat It returns this time the killing of infant animals as young as three weeks!   
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/programmes/kill_it/

Do you ever find yourself indulging in a meat feast and wondering how
the animal made its way to your plate? 

Kill It, Cook It, Eat It returns to uncover the facts about how meat
is prepared in the UK for our dining table - and this time, we focus
on the slaughter of young animals.

Veal, milk-fed lambs, kid goats and suckling pigs are slaughtered
regularly in UK abattoirs to feed a small but growing appetite for
younger, more succulent meat. As a nation of animal lovers, the public
may not want to acknowledge that animals are taken from their mothers
while they're still suckling, but it does take place. 

The series demonstrates the whole process – how baby animals are
reared, inspected and killed – and shows what the professionals think
about the slaughter process. 

Each programme examines the reactions and emotions of an invited group
of guests including meat lovers, farmers, vegetarians and
restaurateurs. They watch the young animals being butchered and
cooked, before deciding whether to taste what they've seen
slaughtered. 

In Kill It, Cook It, Eat It, presenter Julia Bradbury (Watchdog,
Wainwright's Walks), leading vet Peter Jinman, master butchers John
Mettrick and Andrew Sharpe, and chef Kate Moore bring together two
moments the public have separated – the death of young animals and the
consumption of their meat. 

The programme asks how these animals are raised, where they come from,
and how they're killed and gutted. Should taste take priority over the
welfare of the animal? And, ultimately, how young is too young when it
comes to eating baby animals? 








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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back
date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 00:22:54 +0000   author:   Adenoid Hynkel .

CROP YIELD VERIFICATION   
CROP YIELD VERIFICATION 
http://www.gardensofeden.org/04%20Crop%20Yield%20Verification.htm
The statistical information listed In the tables below represent a
crop-by-crop average yield of 47 foods (in pounds per acre), according
to two different sources. If we calculate the average yield for all of
these crops we find it to be 10,642 pounds per one acre of land.
Therefore, the yield for 1/4 acre is 1/4 of that, or 2660 pounds. 

If you grew equal amounts of all these crops (except rice -- I
excluded rice because it is so unusually high-yielding, and it takes
lots of water to grow rice) on 1/4 acre of land, how many pounds of
food per day does that average out to be, in the course of one year,
if you had one harvest season per year? 



  2660 lbs./year     = 7.3 pounds of food per day for one person. 
  365 days/year 



Do the crop yield figures (shown below) seem a little bit too high for
you? Do you really think that you could get, for example, 19,400
pounds of carrots out of only one acre of land? One acre of land is
43,560 square feet, according to Random House Dictionary. If that was
a square piece of land, that would be 208.7 feet long on each side of
that square. (The "square root" of 43,560 is 208.7) If you produced
19,400 pounds of carrots out of 43,560 square feet of land, that would
be less than 1/2 pound per one square foot of land: 



     19,400 lbs. per one acre        = .445 pounds per ONE square foot
of land.
43,560 square feet per one acre 



If you went into a supermarket to the bulk produce section, and
weighted some carrots on the scale, you would see that a half pound of
carrots is a small handful of carrots. Can you visualize this
half-pound of carrots in a square piece of ground that is one foot
long on each side? It appears to be reasonable to me! 

You could do similar calculations for the other crop yield figures
below, but you would find similar results: the numbers are quite
realistic. Check it out for yourself, though. Notice too, that CARROTS
are one of the higher yielding crops. Therefore, MOST of the other
figures are even MORE reasonable than carrots! 









--

My greatest speech to the peasants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em7LWuP0T7Q

pam the SPAMMERS send an email to enquires@urfreesim.co.uk



England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back
date: Tue, 08 Jan 2008 09:27:55 +0000   author:   Adenoid Hynkel .

Re: My Goodness New Years Day and the usual suspects are still at it!   
In article , Oz
 writes
>
>Its clear that pests and diseases are a significant problem.
>It is an inherent problem with perennial plants that pests and diseases
>are close at hand and ready to strike. With annuals (given a reasonable
>local rotation) it takes time for pests and diseases to get established,
>thus allowing for higher yields.
>
>>I assume fruit and nuts must form a significant part of this production
>>and wonder if Pearl has any direct knowledge of yield fluctuations
>>caused by weather, time from planting to full yield, need to replace as
>>trees age, pest and disease impact.....
>
>http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:t6AqJAl_0lUJ:www.nass.usda.gov/Statis
>tics_by_State/California/Publications/Fruits_and_Nuts/200605almpd.pdf+al
>mond+yields&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=10&client=opera
>
>Suggests californian growers (fertilised, irrigated, sprayed) yield
>about 1500lbs/ac = 1.7T/Ha (of edible seeds).
>
>
>Compare that to OSR at about the same yield unirrigated in a temperate
>climate. OSR will have higher energy and protein yield.

Not much hope for the idyllic lifestyle there then:-) I suspect Almonds
have a sale value well beyond their nutritional comparison.

I guess fruiting trees could be grown on some of Jim's marginal land
displacing a few head of cattle and sheep but depth of soil and
harvesting issues might limit more than Pearl has considered.

The mature Cobb and Hazel bushes in our garden probably exceeded the
Californian Almond production, this year, and are still being visited by
Woodpeckers:-) Nut yields are a sometime thing.

regards 
>

-- 
Tim Lamb
date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 09:55:32 +0000   author:   Tim Lamb

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