On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 21:02:14 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
 wrote:

>In article ,
>    wrote:
>
>> >
>> >That is up to you.
>> >
>> >I usually only explain what I have discovered or noticed myself.  
>> >
>> >I used to have some of the same prejudices as you, but after a few
>> >years, you get to see what actually happens.
>> >
>
>> Was getting paid for it a deciding influence?
>
>I have been a volunteer for well over 30 years and voluntary warden for
>over 20.  I get no pay for Holland Pits.
>
>
>
And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.


>> >> > When we look at the quote that BAC came up with, if we assume it
>> >> >was the reference you used, it appears you dishonestly partially
>> >> >quoted from it.
>> >
>> >> In what way?
>
>> >Malcolm detailed the way that you selectively quoted from that web site
>> >which BAC pointed out, unless you are going to tell us that it came
>> >from another one.
>
>> I quoted exactly what it said.  I didn't quote the Scottish issue as it
>> was irrelevant and obvious why red squirrels were not the diet of
>> martens which were mainly located in the North West.where there are very
>> few red squirrels.
>You quoted the part of it that would support your case.

Of course I did. But that doesn't mean the other part was relevant. If
you remember what I said,  when they finished the greys they'll start
in the reds - or words to that effect.  They're tree animals and very
capable of catching reds in the trees.

But while there's grants to be screwed the researchers won't want to
bother about that just now :-((


.  
Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

In article ,
    wrote:

> >
> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.

Very little compared with what they could earn.

> >
> >> I quoted exactly what it said.  I didn't quote the Scottish issue as
> >> it was irrelevant and obvious why red squirrels were not the diet of
> >> martens which were mainly located in the North West.where there are
> >> very few red squirrels.
> >You quoted the part of it that would support your case.

> Of course I did. But that doesn't mean the other part was relevant.

> If
> you remember what I said,  when they finished the greys they'll start
> in the reds - or words to that effect.  They're tree animals and very
> capable of catching reds in the trees.

But the article you selectively quoted gave details which you ignored that
qualidfied what you said.

-- 
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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
 wrote:

>In article ,
>    wrote:
>
>> >
>> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.
>
>Very little compared with what they could earn.

Don't kid yourself.  Many are the dregs of the academic world and
lucky to have a job at all.

>
>> >
>> >> I quoted exactly what it said.  I didn't quote the Scottish issue as
>> >> it was irrelevant and obvious why red squirrels were not the diet of
>> >> martens which were mainly located in the North West.where there are
>> >> very few red squirrels.
>> >You quoted the part of it that would support your case.
>
>> Of course I did. But that doesn't mean the other part was relevant.
>
>> If
>> you remember what I said,  when they finished the greys they'll start
>> in the reds - or words to that effect.  They're tree animals and very
>> capable of catching reds in the trees.
>
>But the article you selectively quoted gave details which you ignored that
>qualidfied what you said.

It didn't "qualify" anything because the reason is quite clear.  If
martens are not where red squirrels are they won't eat them  There
were not many, if any, in the North West of Scotland.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:16:22 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
> wrote:
>
>>In article ,
>>    wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.
>>
>>Very little compared with what they could earn.
>
>Don't kid yourself.  Many are the dregs of the academic world and
>lucky to have a job at all.

Given Semens qualifications and aptitude he can consider himself lucky
he got an unpaid job looking after a bit of wasteland. They hardly
trust him with a nature reserve would they!

By definition it's the fat cats who get the money, and the no brainers
who stand sentry duty in isolated places where they can do least harm
and are too stupid to realise.









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With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
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There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:23:13 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
 wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:16:22 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
>> wrote:
>>
>>>In article ,
>>>    wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.
>>>
>>>Very little compared with what they could earn.
>>
>>Don't kid yourself.  Many are the dregs of the academic world and
>>lucky to have a job at all.
>
>Given Semens qualifications and aptitude he can consider himself lucky
>he got an unpaid job looking after a bit of wasteland. They hardly
>trust him with a nature reserve would they!
>
>By definition it's the fat cats who get the money, and the no brainers
>who stand sentry duty in isolated places where they can do least harm
>and are too stupid to realise.


Robert Seago has told this ng that one reserve only get £120 a year
for maintenance.  I wonder what the Chief Executive get for his
salary.  A lot more than he's worth, I'll bet.


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:18:48 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:

>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:23:13 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:16:22 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>In article ,
>>>>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.
>>>>
>>>>Very little compared with what they could earn.
>>>
>>>Don't kid yourself.  Many are the dregs of the academic world and
>>>lucky to have a job at all.
>>
>>Given Semens qualifications and aptitude he can consider himself lucky
>>he got an unpaid job looking after a bit of wasteland. They hardly
>>trust him with a nature reserve would they!
>>
>>By definition it's the fat cats who get the money, and the no brainers
>>who stand sentry duty in isolated places where they can do least harm
>>and are too stupid to realise.
>
>
>Robert Seago has told this ng that one reserve only get £120 a year
>for maintenance.  I wonder what the Chief Executive get for his
>salary.  A lot more than he's worth, I'll bet.

Around £85 if memory serves me correct! Doesn't take much to work out
who's fooling who does it? LOL

Mind you if Semen had a brain he'd be dangerous!









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The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:12:35 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:23:13 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:16:22 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.
>>>>>
>>>>>Very little compared with what they could earn.
>>>>
>>>>Don't kid yourself.  Many are the dregs of the academic world and
>>>>lucky to have a job at all.
>>>
>>>Given Semens qualifications and aptitude he can consider himself lucky
>>>he got an unpaid job looking after a bit of wasteland. They hardly
>>>trust him with a nature reserve would they!
>>>
>>>By definition it's the fat cats who get the money, and the no brainers
>>>who stand sentry duty in isolated places where they can do least harm
>>>and are too stupid to realise.
>>
>>
>>Robert Seago has told this ng that one reserve only get £120 a year
>>for maintenance.  I wonder what the Chief Executive get for his
>>salary.  A lot more than he's worth, I'll bet.
>>
>Your "bet" is worthless, because you are not an unbiased judge of what 
>salary is appropriate for the job.

That's easy. One could safely presume your worth is even less than
semen's!









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The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:12:35 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:23:13 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:16:22 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.
>>>>>
>>>>>Very little compared with what they could earn.
>>>>
>>>>Don't kid yourself.  Many are the dregs of the academic world and
>>>>lucky to have a job at all.
>>>
>>>Given Semens qualifications and aptitude he can consider himself lucky
>>>he got an unpaid job looking after a bit of wasteland. They hardly
>>>trust him with a nature reserve would they!
>>>
>>>By definition it's the fat cats who get the money, and the no brainers
>>>who stand sentry duty in isolated places where they can do least harm
>>>and are too stupid to realise.
>>
>>
>>Robert Seago has told this ng that one reserve only get £120 a year
>>for maintenance.  I wonder what the Chief Executive get for his
>>salary.  A lot more than he's worth, I'll bet.
>>
>Your "bet" is worthless, because you are not an unbiased judge of what 
>salary is appropriate for the job.

Not at all. Compared with what is spent on the nature reserve, it's
probably at least 400 times that amount.  Some people might find that
obscene for a wildlife trust.


 
Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 07:51:20 +0000, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , 
>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:12:35 +0000, Malcolm
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>In article ,
>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:23:13 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:16:22 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Very little compared with what they could earn.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Don't kid yourself.  Many are the dregs of the academic world and
>>>>>>lucky to have a job at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>Given Semens qualifications and aptitude he can consider himself lucky
>>>>>he got an unpaid job looking after a bit of wasteland. They hardly
>>>>>trust him with a nature reserve would they!
>>>>>
>>>>>By definition it's the fat cats who get the money, and the no brainers
>>>>>who stand sentry duty in isolated places where they can do least harm
>>>>>and are too stupid to realise.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Robert Seago has told this ng that one reserve only get £120 a year
>>>>for maintenance.  I wonder what the Chief Executive get for his
>>>>salary.  A lot more than he's worth, I'll bet.
>>>>
>>>Your "bet" is worthless, because you are not an unbiased judge of what
>>>salary is appropriate for the job.
>>
>>Not at all. Compared with what is spent on the nature reserve, it's
>>probably at least 400 times that amount.  Some people might find that
>>obscene for a wildlife trust.
>>
>Ah, the undefined "some people", or in other words you.


Are you saying that a wildlife trust that pays it's CEO ,say, £50k a
year or more should only pay £120 a year for maintenance of one of its
reserves?

That shows what the money making scam of nature reserves is all about
IMO


Angus Macmillan
www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
www.killhunting.org
www.con-servation.org.uk

All truth passes through three stages:
First, it is ridiculed;
Second, it is violently opposed; and
Third, it is accepted as self-evident. 
-- Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 09:02:39 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:

>On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 07:51:20 +0000, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>In article , 
>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 20:12:35 +0000, Malcolm
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>In article ,
>>>>amacmil304@aol.com writes
>>>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:23:13 +0000, Adenoid Hynkel            .
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:16:22 +0000, amacmil304@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:22:04 +0000 (GMT), Robert Seago
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article ,
>>>>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> And I suppose the Wildlife Trust executives get paid quite handsomely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Very little compared with what they could earn.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Don't kid yourself.  Many are the dregs of the academic world and
>>>>>>>lucky to have a job at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Given Semens qualifications and aptitude he can consider himself lucky
>>>>>>he got an unpaid job looking after a bit of wasteland. They hardly
>>>>>>trust him with a nature reserve would they!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>By definition it's the fat cats who get the money, and the no brainers
>>>>>>who stand sentry duty in isolated places where they can do least harm
>>>>>>and are too stupid to realise.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Robert Seago has told this ng that one reserve only get £120 a year
>>>>>for maintenance.  I wonder what the Chief Executive get for his
>>>>>salary.  A lot more than he's worth, I'll bet.
>>>>>
>>>>Your "bet" is worthless, because you are not an unbiased judge of what
>>>>salary is appropriate for the job.
>>>
>>>Not at all. Compared with what is spent on the nature reserve, it's
>>>probably at least 400 times that amount.  Some people might find that
>>>obscene for a wildlife trust.
>>>
>>Ah, the undefined "some people", or in other words you.
>
>
>Are you saying that a wildlife trust that pays it's CEO ,say, £50k a
>year or more should only pay £120 a year for maintenance of one of its
>reserves?
>
>That shows what the money making scam of nature reserves is all about
>IMO
>

That's a good point. Lets base that figure for each of it's reserves
and that leaves one big fat cat pot of cream for the top branch!









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England / Angelic Upstarts 

The red in the flag is the blood that was spilt
In the way that your forefathers tell
And never a country has been so great
The stories Britannia could tell 

I never want to live my life
Away from the golden shores
There's never a country in the world
With the scent of an English rose 

England oh England a country so great
A land that's so fair and so true
There'll never be any colours like
The red the white and the blue 

Whenever you go to a far off land
There's something goes with you
The pride and the joy and the love that comes
For your mother of red white and blue 

You could never be born under a flag that's like
The one of the Union Jack
St.Georges spirit has never died
It all keeps coming back