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Citizens and Direct Democracy
What chance of reform do the major UK political parties
offer?

http://www.iniref.org/latest.html

The countries of the british isles and the UK as a whole are near
the bottom of the league table in citizens' (direct) democracy CDD
(see Table, ...). Way, way ahead of the UK are countries of the
Baltic, several east-european countries since 1990, Italy, Ireland
and Lands of the Federal Republic of Germany. The headings in the
Table clearly indicate what is meant by CDD (see also definition,
1).

Now that an early general election has been fought off and we find
ourselves in the continuing mid-life crisis of a third consecutive
Labour Party government, it is time to take our magnifying glass in
order to search the utterances of opposition, government, and their
thinker-gurus, for serious proposals of democracy reform. Owing to
lack of resources and staff (please see our I&Rgb fund appeal and
remember 'tis Yuletide) we cannot pretend that this search has been
exhaustive. In this December 2007 update we will consider only the
three major parties.

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I&R ~ GB Citizens' Initiative and Referendum
Campaign for direct democracy in Britain
http://www.iniref.org/

"I&Rgb" <""info \"@ iniref.org"> wrote in message
news:5t1kcsF1avv6pU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
> The countries of the british isles and the UK as a whole are near
> the bottom of the league table in citizens' (direct) democracy CDD
> (see Table, ...). Way, way ahead of the UK are countries of the
> Baltic, several east-european countries since 1990, Italy, Ireland
> and Lands of the Federal Republic of Germany. The headings in the
> Table clearly indicate what is meant by CDD (see also definition,
> 1).

Thank the Lord for that.  Why on earth would we want members of the ignorant
public deciding important issues?  If the 'people' had their way we'd
reintroduce hanging and be even more dependent on the Daily Mail and Sun
than we already are!
--
Steve

On Dec 21, 10:13 pm, "Steve"  wrote:
> "I&Rgb" <""info \"@ iniref.org"> wrote in messagenews:5t1kcsF1avv6pU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
>
> > The countries of the british isles and the UK as a whole are near
> > the bottom of the league table in citizens' (direct) democracy CDD
> > (see Table, ...). Way, way ahead of the UK are countries of the
> > Baltic, several east-european countries since 1990, Italy, Ireland
> > and Lands of the Federal Republic of Germany. The headings in the
> > Table clearly indicate what is meant by CDD (see also definition,
> > 1).
>
> Thank the Lord for that.  Why on earth would we want members of the ignorant
> public deciding important issues?  If the 'people' had their way we'd
> reintroduce hanging and be even more dependent on the Daily Mail and Sun
> than we already are!
> --
> Steve

Don't confuse public opinion with the tabloids.

"I&Rgb" <""info \"@ iniref.org"> wrote in message 
news:5t1kcsF1avv6pU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
> EXTRACT
>
> Citizens and Direct Democracy
> What chance of reform do the major UK political parties
> offer?
>
> http://www.iniref.org/latest.html
>
> The countries of the british isles
That's British Isles,
> and the UK as a whole are near
> the bottom of the league table in citizens' (direct) democracy CDD
> (see Table, ...). Way, way ahead of the UK are countries of the
> Baltic, several east-european countries since 1990, Italy, Ireland
> and Lands of the Federal Republic of Germany. The headings in the
> Table clearly indicate what is meant by CDD (see also definition,
> 1).
>
> Now that an early general election has been fought off and we find
> ourselves in the continuing mid-life crisis of a third consecutive
> Labour Party government, it is time to take our magnifying glass in
> order to search the utterances of opposition, government, and their
> thinker-gurus, for serious proposals of democracy reform. Owing to
> lack of resources and staff (please see our I&Rgb fund appeal and
> remember 'tis Yuletide) we cannot pretend that this search has been
> exhaustive. In this December 2007 update we will consider only the
> three major parties.
Why?

Robert Peffers wrote:
> "I&Rgb" <""info \"@ iniref.org"> wrote in message 
> news:5t1kcsF1avv6pU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
>> EXTRACT
>>
>> Citizens and Direct Democracy
>> What chance of reform do the major UK political parties
>> offer?
>>
>> http://www.iniref.org/latest.html
>>
>> The countries of the british isles
> That's British Isles,
>> and the UK as a whole are near
>> the bottom of the league table in citizens' (direct) democracy CDD
>> (see Table, ...). Way, way ahead of the UK are countries of the
>> Baltic, several east-european countries since 1990, Italy, Ireland
>> and Lands of the Federal Republic of Germany. The headings in the
>> Table clearly indicate what is meant by CDD (see also definition,
>> 1).
>>
>> Now that an early general election has been fought off and we find
>> ourselves in the continuing mid-life crisis of a third consecutive
>> Labour Party government, it is time to take our magnifying glass in
>> order to search the utterances of opposition, government, and their
>> thinker-gurus, for serious proposals of democracy reform. Owing to
>> lack of resources and staff (please see our I&Rgb fund appeal and
>> remember 'tis Yuletide) we cannot pretend that this search has been
>> exhaustive. In this December 2007 update we will consider only the
>> three major parties.
> Why?
For the reason given.
Can you report on the attitude to direct democracy (e.g. "initiative and 
referendum") of the Scottish Nationalist Party?

I&R ~ GB
Citizens' Initiative and Referendum
a campaign for direct democracy in Britain
http://www.iniref.org/

On 21 Dec 2007, 11:13, "Steve"  wrote:
> "I&Rgb" <""info \"@ iniref.org"> wrote in messagenews:5t1kcsF1avv6pU1@mid.uni-berlin.de...
>
> > The countries of the british isles and the UK as a whole are near
> > the bottom of the league table in citizens' (direct) democracy CDD
> > (see Table, ...). Way, way ahead of the UK are countries of the
> > Baltic, several east-european countries since 1990, Italy, Ireland
> > and Lands of the Federal Republic of Germany. The headings in the
> > Table clearly indicate what is meant by CDD (see also definition,
> > 1).
>
> Thank the Lord for that. �Why on earth would we want members of the ignorant
> public deciding important issues? �If the 'people' had their way we'd
> reintroduce hanging and be even more dependent on the Daily Mail and Sun
> than we already are!
> --
> Steve

Yes where would be if the public understood what was happening and
acted on it.