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date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:18:22 +1000,    group: uk.environment        back       
GREENLAND HAS COOLED SINCE 1930 & 1940's!   
A July 2007 analysis of peer-reviewed literature thoroughly
debunks fears of

Greenland and the Arctic melting and predictions of a frightening
sea level rise.

Excerpt: "Research in 2006 found that Greenland has been warming
since the 1880's,

but since 1955, temperature averages at Greenland stations have
been colder than the

period between 1881-1955.

A 2006 study found Greenland has cooled since the 1930's and
1940's, with 1941 being

the warmest year on record. Another 2006 study concluded
Greenland was as warm or

warmer in the 1930's and 40's and the rate of warming from
1920-1930 was about 50%

higher than the warming from 1995-2005. One 2005 study found
Greenland gaining ice

in the interior higher elevations and thinning ice at the lower
elevations. In addition, the

often media promoted fears of Greenland's ice completely melting
and a subsequent

catastrophic sea level rise are directly at odds with the latest
scientific studies."

[See July 30, 2007 Report - Latest Scientific Studies Refute
Fears of Greenland Melt ]

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id

=175B568A-802A-23AD-4C69-9BDD978FB3CD




-- 


Regards

Bonzo

"Extending the past [global temperature] pattern into the future,
we should start cooling again beginning between sometime this
year and 2010." Don J. Easterbrook, Geologist, Western Washington
University
date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:18:22 +1000   author:   Bonzo

Re: GREENLAND HAS COOLED SINCE 1930 & 1940's!   
Bonzo is telling his old  and obvious lies again.

For a typical example of a Bonzo lie, please see:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.global-warming/browse_frm/thread/bc3dda93def056d4/28385f50cb9641d2
date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:51:13 -0700   author:   Roger Coppock

Bonzo - Curve Fitting doesn't exist   
"HangEveryRepubliKKKan"  wrote
>> 1998 14.57  *********************o*****
>> 1999 14.33  *****************>>>>o
>> 2000 14.33  *****************>>>>>o
>> 2001 14.48  ************************o
>> 2002 14.56  *************************o**
>> 2003 14.55  **************************o*
>> 2004 14.49  *************************>>o
>> 2005 14.63  *****************************o**
>> 2006 14.54  ***************************>>>o
>>
>>   Look at all those "o"'s lined up there.

"Bonzo"  wrote
> The "0"'s are NOT THE DATA!
> They have created a trend which does not exist in the data.
> Voodoo statistics!

  Ahahahahahahahahaha... Stupid KKKonservative KKKlown. A trendline skirts
across the top of the data leaving equal portions of the data above and
below.  In this instane 10 dots above, and 14 below as a result of the crude
nature of ascii graphics.  Nevertheless it represents the best line that can
be fitted to the data based on minimizing the square of the distance between
the line and the real data.  It's called a least squares curve fit.

  You are completely ignorant when it comes to statistics and mathematics in
general aren't you Bonzo.

  Ahahahahahaha.. You don't know what statistics are, where it comes from,
how it is used, or how to use it, and yet in your vast ignorance, you seem
to think that you know more about science than all of the worlds scientists.

  "Voodoo statistics"  Ahahahahahahahah...  You need to go back to public
school and take a refresher course in basic technical literacy.

  Stupid... Stupid.. KKKonservative KKKlown....


"Bonzo"  wrote
> Here is the data which shows NO TREND!
>
> 1998 366.50 2.5721     14.57
> 1999 368.14 2.6148     14.33
> 2000 369.41 2.6399     14.33
> 2001 371.07 2.6672     14.48
> 2002 373.16 2.7032     14.56
> 2003 375.80 2.7487     14.55
> 2004 377.55 NA            14.49
> 2005 379.75 NA            14.63
> 2006 381.90 NA            14.54

  No?  Lets plot the data and find out shall we?  Here it is along with the
best linear fit to the data shown as "o".

1998 14.57  *********************o*****
1999 14.33  *****************>>>>o
2000 14.33  *****************>>>>>o
2001 14.48  ************************o
2002 14.56  *************************o**
2003 14.55  **************************o*
2004 14.49  *************************>>o
2005 14.63  *****************************o**
2006 14.54  ***************************>>>o

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

So Bonzo, who is paying you to post lies to this newsgroup?
date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:30:19 -0700   author:   HangEveryRepubliKKKan

Re: Bonzo - Curve Fitting doesn't exist for straight lines   
"HangEveryRepubliKKKan"  wrote
in message news:b2sOi.5056$9F1.3585@read1.cgocable.net...
>
> "HangEveryRepubliKKKan" 
wrote
> >> 1998 14.57  *********************o*****
> >> 1999 14.33  *****************>>>>o
> >> 2000 14.33  *****************>>>>>o
> >> 2001 14.48  ************************o
> >> 2002 14.56  *************************o**
> >> 2003 14.55  **************************o*
> >> 2004 14.49  *************************>>o
> >> 2005 14.63  *****************************o**
> >> 2006 14.54  ***************************>>>o
> >>
> >>   Look at all those "o"'s lined up there.
>

Here is a plot of the DATA  (Not some "fit") ...

Looks like a horizontal line to me!

1998 14.57    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
1999 14.33    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2000 14.33    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2001 14.48    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2002 14.56    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2003 14.55    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2004 14.49    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2005 14.63    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2006 14.54    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII


Regards

Bonzo

In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were
deleted from the final draft. Here they are:
1. "None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that
we can attribute  the observed climate changes to increases in
greenhouse gases."
2. "No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the
climate change to man-made causes"
date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 10:46:55 +1000   author:   Bonzo

Re: Bonzo - Curve Fitting doesn't exist for straight lines   
"HangEveryRepubliKKKan"  wrote
>> 1998 14.57  *********************o*****
>> 1999 14.33  *****************>>>>o
>> 2000 14.33  *****************>>>>>o
>> 2001 14.48  ************************o
>> 2002 14.56  *************************o**
>> 2003 14.55  **************************o*
>> 2004 14.49  *************************>>o
>> 2005 14.63  *****************************o**
>> 2006 14.54  ***************************>>>o
>>
>>   Look at all those "o"'s lined up there.

"Bonzo"  wrote
> The "0"'s are NOT THE DATA!
> They have created a trend which does not exist in the data.
> Voodoo statistics!

  Ahahahahahahahahaha... Stupid KKKonservative KKKlown. A trendline skirts
across the top of the data leaving equal portions of the data above and
below.  In this instane 10 dots above, and 14 below as a result of the crude
nature of ascii graphics.  Nevertheless it represents the best line that can
be fitted to the data based on minimizing the square of the distance between
the line and the real data.  It's called a least squares curve fit.

  You are completely ignorant when it comes to statistics and mathematics in
general aren't you Bonzo.

  Ahahahahahaha.. You don't know what statistics are, where it comes from,
how it is used, or how to use it, and yet in your vast ignorance, you seem
to think that you know more about science than all of the worlds scientists.

  "Voodoo statistics"  Ahahahahahahahah...  You need to go back to public
school and take a refresher course in basic technical literacy.

  Stupid... Stupid.. KKKonservative KKKlown....


"Bonzo"  wrote
> Here is the data which shows NO TREND!
>
> 1998 366.50 2.5721     14.57
> 1999 368.14 2.6148     14.33
> 2000 369.41 2.6399     14.33
> 2001 371.07 2.6672     14.48
> 2002 373.16 2.7032     14.56
> 2003 375.80 2.7487     14.55
> 2004 377.55 NA            14.49
> 2005 379.75 NA            14.63
> 2006 381.90 NA            14.54

  No?  Lets plot the data and find out shall we?  Here it is along with the
best linear fit to the data shown as "o".

1998 14.57  *********************o*****
1999 14.33  *****************>>>>o
2000 14.33  *****************>>>>>o
2001 14.48  ************************o
2002 14.56  *************************o**
2003 14.55  **************************o*
2004 14.49  *************************>>o
2005 14.63  *****************************o**
2006 14.54  ***************************>>>o

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

So Bonzo, who is paying you to post lies to this newsgroup?
date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:58:44 -0700   author:   HangEveryRepubliKKKan

Re: Bonzo - Curve Fitting doesn't exist for straight lines   
"HangEveryRepubliKKKan"  wrote
in message news:kfBOi.5090$9F1.4244@read1.cgocable.net...
>
> "HangEveryRepubliKKKan" 
wrote
> >> 1998 14.57  *********************o*****
> >> 1999 14.33  *****************>>>>o
> >> 2000 14.33  *****************>>>>>o
> >> 2001 14.48  ************************o
> >> 2002 14.56  *************************o**
> >> 2003 14.55  **************************o*
> >> 2004 14.49  *************************>>o
> >> 2005 14.63  *****************************o**
> >> 2006 14.54  ***************************>>>o
> >>
> >>   Look at all those "o"'s lined up there.
Looks like a horizontal line to me!

1998 14.57    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
1999 14.33    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2000 14.33    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2001 14.48    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2002 14.56    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2003 14.55    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2004 14.49    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2005 14.63    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
2006 14.54    IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII


Regards

Bonzo

In a 1996 report by the UN on global warming, two statements were
deleted from the final draft. Here they are:
1. "None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that
we can attribute  the observed climate changes to increases in
greenhouse gases."
2. "No study to date has positively attributed all or part of the
climate change to man-made causes"
date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:01:21 +1000   author:   Bonzo

Re: Bonzo - Curve Fitting doesn't exist for straight lines   
"HangEveryRepubliKKKan"  wrote
>> 1998 14.57  *********************o*****
>> 1999 14.33  *****************>>>>o
>> 2000 14.33  *****************>>>>>o
>> 2001 14.48  ************************o
>> 2002 14.56  *************************o**
>> 2003 14.55  **************************o*
>> 2004 14.49  *************************>>o
>> 2005 14.63  *****************************o**
>> 2006 14.54  ***************************>>>o
>>
>>   Look at all those "o"'s lined up there.

"Bonzo"  wrote
> The "0"'s are NOT THE DATA!
> They have created a trend which does not exist in the data.
> Voodoo statistics!

  Ahahahahahahahahaha... Stupid KKKonservative KKKlown. A trendline skirts
across the top of the data leaving equal portions of the data above and
below.  In this instane 10 dots above, and 14 below as a result of the crude
nature of ascii graphics.  Nevertheless it represents the best line that can
be fitted to the data based on minimizing the square of the distance between
the line and the real data.  It's called a least squares curve fit.

  You are completely ignorant when it comes to statistics and mathematics in
general aren't you Bonzo.

  Ahahahahahaha.. You don't know what statistics are, where it comes from,
how it is used, or how to use it, and yet in your vast ignorance, you seem
to think that you know more about science than all of the worlds scientists.

  "Voodoo statistics"  Ahahahahahahahah...  You need to go back to public
school and take a refresher course in basic technical literacy.

  Stupid... Stupid.. KKKonservative KKKlown....


"Bonzo"  wrote
> Here is the data which shows NO TREND!
>
> 1998 366.50 2.5721     14.57
> 1999 368.14 2.6148     14.33
> 2000 369.41 2.6399     14.33
> 2001 371.07 2.6672     14.48
> 2002 373.16 2.7032     14.56
> 2003 375.80 2.7487     14.55
> 2004 377.55 NA            14.49
> 2005 379.75 NA            14.63
> 2006 381.90 NA            14.54

  No?  Lets plot the data and find out shall we?  Here it is along with the
best linear fit to the data shown as "o".

1998 14.57  *********************o*****
1999 14.33  *****************>>>>o
2000 14.33  *****************>>>>>o
2001 14.48  ************************o
2002 14.56  *************************o**
2003 14.55  **************************o*
2004 14.49  *************************>>o
2005 14.63  *****************************o**
2006 14.54  ***************************>>>o

Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.

So Bonzo, who is paying you to post lies to this newsgroup?
date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:17:40 -0700   author:   HangEveryRepubliKKKan

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