Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
act together, and now its holding everything up,
as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
all out again to put the meter in.

Where can I buy an approved meter?

Ta

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jgharston wrote:
> Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
> I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
> act together, and now its holding everything up,
> as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
> bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
> all out again to put the meter in.
> 
> Where can I buy an approved meter?

I don't think you'll be able to fit your own meter.
How would the water co. know it was calibrated of measuring in
accordance with accurate usage.

I can't see why you should have to rip out the pipework or units etc.
They just dig out the stop-cock in the street and whack a meter in there
not in your premesis. (Normally)

Pete
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jgharston wrote:
> Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
> I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
> act together, and now its holding everything up,
> as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
> bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
> all out again to put the meter in.

No, the water co will insist on fitting there own.  Just let them worry 
about where it will go; the fact that a kitchen has only just been 
installed is no different to one that's been there for years, in that in 
neither case will they any expectation of demolishing half a kitchen to 
fit a meter.

David

Lobster wrote:
> jgharston wrote:
>> Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
>> I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
>> act together, and now its holding everything up,
>> as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
>> bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
>> all out again to put the meter in.
> 
> No, the water co will insist on fitting there own.  Just let them worry 
                                           ^^^^^
Bloody hell, I didn't really righ^H^H^H^H write that did I??

David

On Sep 29, 4:24 pm, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
> > I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its

> I can't see why you should have to rip out the pipework or units etc.
> They just dig out the stop-cock in the street and whack a meter in there
> not in your premesis. (Normally)

They used to.  Yorkshire Water's latest penny-pinching scam (penny-
pinching in that it keeps their profits high, not the bills low) is to
put the meter inside the house saving  the effort of digging a hole in
the drive. This replace the previous scam of making good the hole in
the drive with concrete that contains no hardcore and precious little
cement.

You might think that having ease of access to an outside meter would
benefit them too as well as reducing the number of dubious scrotes
with a clipboard you have to have in your house, but clearly there's
more mileage for them in having you provide a "customer reading" which
they then ignore in favour of their over wildly over-egged estimate.

Not that previous experience of Yorkshire Water has made me cynical,
you understand.

"Lobster"  wrote in message 
news:DI6Ek.30592$v97.2454@newsfe23.ams2...
> Lobster wrote:
>> jgharston wrote:
>>> Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
>>> I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
>>> act together, and now its holding everything up,
>>> as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
>>> bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
>>> all out again to put the meter in.
>>
>> No, the water co will insist on fitting there own.  Just let them worry
>                                           ^^^^^
> Bloody hell, I didn't really righ^H^H^H^H write that did I??


They're, they're, never mind.

-- 
PeterMcC

If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:12:54 -0700 (PDT), jgharston
 wrote:

>Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?

I did, probably 15 years ago. Severn Trent sent it to me in the post
and then inspected the installation when I'd done it. 
When I moved 11 years ago they sent a plumber round to do it. The
current one has a sensor on it so that it can be read from outside.

"jgharston"  wrote in message 
news:44bfadc5-f445-426d-96cc-4fbde0ba7a42@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
> I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
> act together, and now its holding everything up,
> as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
> bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
> all out again to put the meter in.
>
> Where can I buy an approved meter?
>
> Ta
>
> --
> JGH

I'm surprised you're having to wait for YW - they offered us a date three 
weeks from the application and came to within five minutes (early) of the 
appointment time. Ask them for an appointment.

You might well be able to fit your own meter but YW wouldn't accept the 
readings so it's no worth it.

They usually fit it as close to - and past - the rising main, where your 
individual stop-cock is but the fitter asked us if it would be convenient 
where he suggested putting it. They want to use exposed piping, not hidden. 
But since you've applied for one you have the option of refusing it if you 
want to change your mind for any reason - before it's installed.

Our fitter was quick, efficient and polite and didn't mind having blood 
dripping on his head from the game which was hanging over where he worked.

I have absolutely no problems with or complaints about Yorkshire Water - 
except that when the new company bought all the shares back (giving us a 
very good payment) there was no option to have shares in the new company - 
Saltaire Water. We wanted to continue as shareholders because it's such a 
good company with an excellent environmental record. The service has been 
far better since privatisation.

Mary

In article <2aff10c6-03ce-453f-b189-19fb6d4d0749@c65g2000hsa.googlegroup
s.com>, mike  scribeth thus
>On Sep 29, 4:24 pm, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
>> > I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
>
>> I can't see why you should have to rip out the pipework or units etc.
>> They just dig out the stop-cock in the street and whack a meter in there
>> not in your premesis. (Normally)
>
>They used to.  Yorkshire Water's latest penny-pinching scam (penny-
>pinching in that it keeps their profits high, not the bills low) is to
>put the meter inside the house saving  the effort of digging a hole in
>the drive. This replace the previous scam of making good the hole in
>the drive with concrete that contains no hardcore and precious little
>cement.
>
>You might think that having ease of access to an outside meter would
>benefit them too as well as reducing the number of dubious scrotes
>with a clipboard you have to have in your house, but clearly there's
>more mileage for them in having you provide a "customer reading" which
>they then ignore in favour of their over wildly over-egged estimate.
>
>Not that previous experience of Yorkshire Water has made me cynical,
>you understand.
>
>

Round these parts Cambridge water have a remote terminal that they can
read with a hand held reader so no need to access the property .. and
yes the unit is indoors with a very small cable to the outside point and
we do save money on water:))..
-- 
Tony Sayer

"Lobster"  wrote in message 
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> Lobster wrote:
>> jgharston wrote:
>>> Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
>>> I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
>>> act together, and now its holding everything up,
>>> as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
>>> bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
>>> all out again to put the meter in.
>>
>> No, the water co will insist on fitting there own.  Just let them worry
>                                           ^^^^^
> Bloody hell, I didn't really righ^H^H^H^H write that did I??

Just don't ask them to fit it over their.

dennis@home wrote:

> Just don't ask them to fit it over their.

Over wear?

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Mary Fisher wrote:
> Our fitter was quick, efficient and polite and didn't mind having blood 
> dripping on his head from the game which was hanging over where he worked.

I can just see it.

"You should have seen the last job I did, there were dead things hanging 
all over the place dripping blood, I didn't dare say a word and just got 
out of there as soon as I could"

Andy

"Andy Champ"  wrote in message 
news:CNCdnaklfcVAvnzVnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk...
> Mary Fisher wrote:
>> Our fitter was quick, efficient and polite and didn't mind having blood 
>> dripping on his head from the game which was hanging over where he 
>> worked.
>
> I can just see it.
>
> "You should have seen the last job I did, there were dead things hanging 
> all over the place dripping blood, I didn't dare say a word and just got 
> out of there as soon as I could"

What he actually said was very similar: "Doesn't bother me, my last job was 
in an abattoir."

Mary

GymRatZ wrote:
> How would the water co. know it was calibrated of measuring in
> accordance with accurate usage.

One that's approved by whatever water supply approval body
approved water meters...?

> I can't see why you should have to rip out the pipework or units etc.
> They just dig out the stop-cock in the street and whack a meter in there
> not in your premesis. (Normally)

If they put a meter in the street it will be //before// the pipework
splitting into the flat and the shop.

I've already got a single building meter, I need a seperate meter
for the flat and the shop so's they can have their own bills. I've
managed to get YW to cancel the £3700 invoice they sent me for
digging up the road and installing new supplies.

--
JGH

Mary Fisher wrote:
> I'm surprised you're having to wait for YW - they offered us a date three
> weeks from the application and came to within five minutes (early) of the
> appointment time. Ask them for an appointment.

It's three weeks since I spoke to them. They said their surveyor had
my mobile phone number and he'd phone me to make an appointment.

Still waiting...

--
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"jgharston"  wrote in message 
news:edbc4c02-59d3-41ab-9a15-9c6e64fa6428@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Mary Fisher wrote:
>> I'm surprised you're having to wait for YW - they offered us a date three
>> weeks from the application and came to within five minutes (early) of the
>> appointment time. Ask them for an appointment.
>
> It's three weeks since I spoke to them. They said their surveyor had
> my mobile phone number and he'd phone me to make an appointment.
>
> Still waiting...

Speak to them again and insist.

Mary
>
> --
> JGH
>

"Lobster"  wrote in message 
news:DI6Ek.30592$v97.2454@newsfe23.ams2...
> Lobster wrote:
>> jgharston wrote:
>>> Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
>>> I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
>>> act together, and now its holding everything up,
>>> as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
>>> bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
>>> all out again to put the meter in.
>>
>> No, the water co will insist on fitting there own.  Just let them worry
>                                           ^^^^^
> Bloody hell, I didn't really righ^H^H^H^H write that did I??

Just don't ask them to fit it over their.

On Sep 29, 5:06 pm, "Mary Fisher"  wrote:

> they offered us a date three
> weeks from the application and came to within five minutes (early) of the
> appointment time.

Why were they unconscious?

On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 17:06:38 +0100, "Mary Fisher"
 wrote:

  
>You might well be able to fit your own meter but YW wouldn't accept the 
>readings so it's no worth it.
>

Hoch "the noo".

>
>Our fitter was quick, efficient and polite and didn't mind having blood 
>dripping on his head from the game which was hanging over where he worked.
>

Take your monopoly seriously then ?

>I have absolutely no problems with or complaints about Yorkshire Water - 
>except that when the new company bought all the shares back (giving us a 
>very good payment) there was no option to have shares in the new company - 
>Saltaire Water. We wanted to continue as shareholders because it's such a 
>good company with an excellent environmental record. The service has been 
>far better since privatisation.

Except when they ran out of water and were forced by the gubbermint to
have it brought in by truck.

That didn't do much for the environment or the shareholders profits.

Derek

Thus spake mike (mikengac@yahoo.com) unto the assembled multitudes:
> On Sep 29, 4:24 pm, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
>> > I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its

>> I can't see why you should have to rip out the pipework or units etc.
>> They just dig out the stop-cock in the street and whack a meter in there
>> not in your premesis. (Normally)

> They used to.  Yorkshire Water's latest penny-pinching scam (penny-
> pinching in that it keeps their profits high, not the bills low) is to
> put the meter inside the house saving  the effort of digging a hole

FWIW, I had a meter installed (for free) two years ago (by South East
Water) and they replaced my stopcock on my boundary with the meter and new
stopcock.  I put in the request in July 2006 and it was done in the
September.



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                            University of Sussex
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:45:36 -0700 (PDT), mike 
wrote:

>On Sep 29, 4:24 pm, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
>> > I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
>
>> I can't see why you should have to rip out the pipework or units etc.
>> They just dig out the stop-cock in the street and whack a meter in there
>> not in your premesis. (Normally)
>
>They used to.  Yorkshire Water's latest penny-pinching scam (penny-
>pinching in that it keeps their profits high, not the bills low) is to
>put the meter inside the house saving  the effort of digging a hole in
>the drive. This replace the previous scam of making good the hole in
>the drive with concrete that contains no hardcore and precious little
>cement.

Most water companies seem to want the meter at the stopcock on the
boundary line. That way if the customer gets a leak on the incomer
they can charge more.

>
>You might think that having ease of access to an outside meter would
>benefit them too as well as reducing the number of dubious scrotes
>with a clipboard you have to have in your house, but clearly there's
>more mileage for them in having you provide a "customer reading" which
>they then ignore in favour of their over wildly over-egged estimate.
>
>Not that previous experience of Yorkshire Water has made me cynical,
>you understand.
>
Aren't they the company that tried to hand back all those assets that
had crippling debts with them?

On Sep 29, 4:12 pm, jgharston  wrote:
> Can I fit my own water meter and be billed on it?
> I'm fed up waiting for Yorkshire Water to get its
> act together, and now its holding everything up,
> as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
> bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
> all out again to put the meter in.



Is your reasoning that they will want to follow the pipework to be
sure you haven't secretly split the supply under the ground with only
part of it going through the meter?  Otherwise you could simply
provide a 'loop' in the pipe where they can conveniently insert a
meter later.



Robert

On Sep 29, 6:59 pm, "www.GymRatZ.co.uk"
<0845.86.86....@GymRatZ.Gym.Equipment> wrote:
> dennis@home wrote:
> > Just don't ask them to fit it over their.
>
> Over wear?


Under hear.

RobertL wrote:
> > as I don't want to install the kitchen units and
> > bury all the pipework and then have to rip it
> > all out again to put the meter in.
>
> Is your reasoning that they will want to follow the pipework to be
> sure you haven't secretly split the supply under the ground with only
> part of it going through the meter?  Otherwise you could simply

No, my reasoning is that there is a single stop-cock at my property
boundary, which feeds a supply pipe underneath my Victoria cobbled
driveway, branches off into my building, continues into next door's
yard, banches off into their building, continues into their next
door's yard and goes into their building.

Where it enters my building it goes through a single meter, then
splits into three to feed a) shop, b) flat A and c) flat C.

None of the three tenancies have access to the storeroom that
the single meter is in. Once the floors and walls are repaired
nobody - not even me - will have access to the pipework with
removing said walls and floors - which are needed to prevent
people falling through walls and floors.

In the flat I'm currently doing up, the pipe comes up out of
the floor behind where the kitchen sink is going to go. It
goes through a stop tap, and then a convenient two-foot
length of straight pipe before terminating at a bucket tap
and the boiler. It would be oh-so-ever-so useful if the
meter was affixed to that nice straight bit of pipe
//before// the kitchen units go in. Otherwise, the kitchen
units will have to come back out again before there's any
access to any pipework.

--
JGH