Hello. I'm moving into a new place that has two windows set back from
the bedroom wall. As I'm renting the landlord is not keen for me to
put up a curtain rail over each window as it will need ot be screwed
into the wall.

However, he suggested getting an extendable curtain rail that has an
internal spring so it can go inside the recess and hold itself up by
using the two sides inside the recess as support.

The curtains I own are fairly heavyweight ones (I have always ended up
with south-facing rooms, so I like curtains that keep early morning
sunlight out in the summer), and the only extendable curtain rails I
have found are designed for lightweight curtains.

Now as the windows are small-ish, one of the curtains can go over each
window, so that should reduce the weight somewhat.

However, if this is still too heavy, will I be able to find a curtain
rail that can support my curtains but won't cause any damage to the
current decor?

Kind Regards,

Matt

On 19 Sep, 13:47, Matt  wrote:
> Hello. I'm moving into a new place that has two windows set back from
> the bedroom wall. As I'm renting the landlord is not keen for me to
> put up a curtain rail over each window as it will need ot be screwed
> into the wall.
>
> However, he suggested getting an extendable curtain rail that has an
> internal spring so it can go inside the recess and hold itself up by
> using the two sides inside the recess as support.
>
> The curtains I own are fairly heavyweight ones (I have always ended up
> with south-facing rooms, so I like curtains that keep early morning
> sunlight out in the summer), and the only extendable curtain rails I
> have found are designed for lightweight curtains.
>
> Now as the windows are small-ish, one of the curtains can go over each
> window, so that should reduce the weight somewhat.
>
> However, if this is still too heavy, will I be able to find a curtain
> rail that can support my curtains but won't cause any damage to the
> current decor?
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Matt

IMHO the landlord is being unreasonable - if they making an issue over
something so trivial I don't think you will see your deposit again!

Mark.

On 19 Sep, 14:11, mark.han...@totalise.co.uk wrote:

> IMHO the landlord is being unreasonable - if they making an issue over
> something so trivial I don't think you will see your deposit again!
>
> Mark.

I have to agree - that's utterly ridiculous! No curtains in the
bedroom? He's mad.

The place is YOUR home for the next six or twelve months, it's not a
hotel room. If he had any sense he would see that putting up curtain
rails would be an improvement. In any event, I'm quite sure that no
adjudicator would regard properly mounted curtain poles in a bedroom
window as amounting to a basis for a deposit deduction.

By the way, he has put the deposit into one of the deposit protection
schemes, hasn't he?

Cheers!

Martin

"Martin Pentreath"  wrote in message 
news:c013fc26-2996-4700-849c-3d2907dd33ea@79g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On 19 Sep, 14:11, mark.han...@totalise.co.uk wrote:
>
>> IMHO the landlord is being unreasonable - if they making an issue over
>> something so trivial I don't think you will see your deposit again!
>>
>> Mark.
>
> I have to agree - that's utterly ridiculous! No curtains in the
> bedroom? He's mad.
>
> The place is YOUR home for the next six or twelve months, it's not a
> hotel room.

A hotel room would have curtains fitted.

> If he had any sense he would see that putting up curtain
> rails would be an improvement. In any event, I'm quite sure that no
> adjudicator would regard properly mounted curtain poles in a bedroom
> window as amounting to a basis for a deposit deduction.
>
> By the way, he has put the deposit into one of the deposit protection
> schemes, hasn't he?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Martin

I agree with everything which has been said. It's ridiculous. It could even 
be argued that curtain rails of some kind should be one of the fixtures.

Mary

Matt wrote:
> the bedroom wall. As I'm renting the landlord is not keen for me to
> put up a curtain rail over each window as it will need ot be screwed

Tell the landlord to put curtain rails up. He's selling you a product
of nonmerchantable quality.

(...and if my tenants are reading this, yes, the curtain rail's
downstairs,
I'll fit it over the weekend!)

--
JGH

jgharston wrote:
> Matt wrote:
>> the bedroom wall. As I'm renting the landlord is not keen for me to
>> put up a curtain rail over each window as it will need ot be screwed
> 
> Tell the landlord to put curtain rails up

Exactly

"Matt"  wrote in message 
news:0af025be-05c5-42b6-96a0-c7fcfd7f8f7d@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Hello. I'm moving into a new place that has two windows set back from
> the bedroom wall. As I'm renting the landlord is not keen for me to
> put up a curtain rail over each window as it will need ot be screwed
> into the wall.
>

Tell he's an ass.

What a load of bollocks,its been suggested you might have a right old ding 
dong getting your deposit back when you leave? my suggestion to you is 
photograph the place before moving in and make sure you photograph every 
wall and floor or better still video the place all over.

"Matt"  wrote in message 
news:0af025be-05c5-42b6-96a0-c7fcfd7f8f7d@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Hello. I'm moving into a new place that has two windows set back from
> the bedroom wall. As I'm renting the landlord is not keen for me to
> put up a curtain rail over each window as it will need ot be screwed
> into the wall.
>
> However, he suggested getting an extendable curtain rail that has an
> internal spring so it can go inside the recess and hold itself up by
> using the two sides inside the recess as support.
>

Why should you provide these? he should provide these and you hand them back 
when you leave.
What a bleedin tosser he is.

On 19 Sep, 18:22, "George"  wrote:
> "Matt"  wrote in message
>
> news:0af025be-05c5-42b6-96a0-c7fcfd7f8f7d@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hello. I'm moving into a new place that has two windows set back from
> > the bedroom wall. As I'm renting the landlord is not keen for me to
> > put up a curtain rail over each window as it will need ot be screwed
> > into the wall.
>
> > However, he suggested getting an extendable curtain rail that has an
> > internal spring so it can go inside the recess and hold itself up by
> > using the two sides inside the recess as support.
>
> Why should you provide these? he should provide these and you hand them back
> when you leave.
> What a bleedin tosser he is.

Why not just drill holes in his wall. When you leave take down *your*
curtain rails and fill the holes with Polyfiller.

On 19 Sep, 17:57, Matt  wrote:
> I should point out that he does have some of those wooden blinds up at
> the moment, so there is some form of provision in that area. The
> problem is I'm somewhat of a light sleeper, and the blinds will let
> plenty of light in.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Matt

Point taken, but what neither most landlords nor tenants seem to
understand is that it is in the nature of a tenancy that the place
*ceases to be his* for the duration of the tenancy. He has no more
right to dictate the interior decor than he does to tell you what to
eat for dinner or what to watch on the box! So long as you let him
have the place back in good nick at the end, subject to reasonable
wear and tear, he (or in fact the deposit protection scheme) must
return your deposit. There is absolutely no need for you to ask him or
even tell him that you're putting curtain poles up.

It's the same with clauses about no pets or no visitors without the
landlords consent. They're unenfoceable. How you live in your home is
up to you. If the cat ruins the carpets or your guests trash the
kitchen then you are fiancially responsible for it. But it's not open
to the landlord to prevent it.

Cheers!

Martin

Matt wrote:
> I should point out that he does have some of those wooden blinds up at
> the moment, so there is some form of provision in that area. The
> problem is I'm somewhat of a light sleeper, and the blinds will let
> plenty of light in.

Then you need something lightproof but lightweight - some blackout blind 
material held to the wooden blinds with clothespegs or bulldog clips 
perhaps.

But I agree, he should see that properly fitted curtain poles are an 
improvement to the property, if you agree they will be left when you leave.

Owain

Owain  wrote:
> Matt wrote:
> > I should point out that he does have some of those wooden blinds up at
> > the moment, so there is some form of provision in that area. The
> > problem is I'm somewhat of a light sleeper, and the blinds will let
> > plenty of light in.

> Then you need something lightproof but lightweight - some blackout blind 
> material held to the wooden blinds with clothespegs or bulldog clips 
> perhaps.

> But I agree, he should see that properly fitted curtain poles are an 
> improvement to the property, if you agree they will be left when you leave.

If the windows open inwards - as many do - and a curtain pole is fitted,
then the chances of the outside of the window ever getting cleaned
are negligible, short of dismantling the curtain pole...   

-- 
AnneJ

Anne Welsh Jackson wrote:
> Owain  wrote:
>> Matt wrote:
>>> I should point out that he does have some of those wooden blinds up at
>>> the moment, so there is some form of provision in that area. The
>>> problem is I'm somewhat of a light sleeper, and the blinds will let
>>> plenty of light in.
> 
>> Then you need something lightproof but lightweight - some blackout blind 
>> material held to the wooden blinds with clothespegs or bulldog clips 
>> perhaps.
> 
>> But I agree, he should see that properly fitted curtain poles are an 
>> improvement to the property, if you agree they will be left when you leave.
> 
> If the windows open inwards - as many do - and a curtain pole is fitted,
> then the chances of the outside of the window ever getting cleaned
> are negligible, short of dismantling the curtain pole...   
> 
If the blinds provide adequate privacy then
http://www.snorestore.co.uk/acatalog/eyemasks.html
should be a cheaper alternative.