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date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:10:20 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
I was just watching property ladder, and the guy said that after they
had just installed the lighting circuit, they had found out it was the
wrong sort of cable.

Can you think of what he meant?  They didn't actually say any more on
the subject - which is really annoying for a viewer, if we are not to
make the same mistakes they should bloody well say what the exact
problem was.

The only things I can think of are low voltage lights, and the wrong
colour coding of cables, which changed a few years ago.  Can you think
of anything else it might have been?
Thanks
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:10:20 -0700 (PDT)   author:   freepo

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
On 17 Sep, 13:10, freepo  wrote:
> I was just watching property ladder, and the guy said that after they
> had just installed the lighting circuit, they had found out it was the
> wrong sort of cable.
>
> Can you think of what he meant?  They didn't actually say any more on
> the subject - which is really annoying for a viewer, if we are not to
> make the same mistakes they should bloody well say what the exact
> problem was.
>
> The only things I can think of are low voltage lights, and the wrong
> colour coding of cables, which changed a few years ago.  Can you think
> of anything else it might have been?
> Thanks

Given some of the numptiness on there, maybe using three-core flex?
Bell wire?
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:17:47 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Martin Pentreath

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
freepo wrote:
> I was just watching property ladder, and the guy said that after they
> had just installed the lighting circuit, they had found out it was the
> wrong sort of cable.
> 
> Can you think of what he meant?  They didn't actually say any more on
> the subject - which is really annoying for a viewer, if we are not to
> make the same mistakes they should bloody well say what the exact
> problem was.
> 
> The only things I can think of are low voltage lights, and the wrong
> colour coding of cables, which changed a few years ago.  Can you think
> of anything else it might have been?

Might be they used 2.5mm^2 T&E... hard to use an undersized one unless 
it was a 10A circuit with cables under insulation etc.



-- 
Cheers,

John.

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date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:25:18 +0100   author:   John Rumm

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
On 17 Sep, 13:10, freepo  wrote:
>
> The only things I can think of are low voltage lights, and the wrong
> colour coding of cables, which changed a few years ago.  Can you think
> of anything else it might have been?
> Thanks

T&E instead of 3-core?
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
In article
,
    wrote:
> > The only things I can think of are low voltage lights, and the wrong
> > colour coding of cables, which changed a few years ago.  Can you think
> > of anything else it might have been?
> > Thanks

> T&E instead of 3-core+E?

Can you still buy that?

-- 
*I used up all my sick days so I called in dead

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:19:22 +0100   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:19:22 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman
(News)"  wrote this:-

>> T&E instead of 3-core+E?
>
>Can you still buy that?

Screwfix list both on
<http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A231781/Electrical/Cable>


-- 
  David Hansen, Edinburgh 
 I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
 http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:45:46 +0100   author:   David Hansen

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
On 17 Sep, 14:45, David Hansen 
wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:19:22 퍝 someone who may be "Dave Plowman
> (News)"  wrote this:-
>
> >> T&E instead of 3-core?
>
> >Can you still buy that?
>
> Screwfix list both on
> <http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A231781/Electrical/Cable>
>
> --
>   David Hansen, Edinburgh
>  I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
>  http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

I started some years ago to wire up a friend's extension and then
realised just how many lights he was going to have in a converted barn
lounge. Ripped out 1mm^2 and replace with 1.5mm^2.  Could be that.

Rob
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:48:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   robgraham

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
In article ,
   David Hansen  wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:19:22 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman
> (News)"  wrote this:-

> >> T&E instead of 3-core+E?
> >
> >Can you still buy that?

> Screwfix list both on
> <http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A231781/Electrical/Cable>

Sorry - I read it as twin rather than TW&E. Looking for something that
made sense.

-- 
*Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:00:55 +0100   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
freepo wrote:
> I was just watching property ladder, and the guy said that after they
> had just installed the lighting circuit, they had found out it was the
> wrong sort of cable.
> 
> Can you think of what he meant? 

Possibly that an earth-shielded cable to BS 8436, such as Earthshield or 
Flexishield,  was needed to allow it to be buried in the walls without 
RCD protection whilst complying with the 17th edition?

-- 
Andy
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 18:56:08 +0100   author:   Andy Wade

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
On 17 Sep, 18:00, "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote:
> In article ,
>    David Hansen  wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:19:22 +0100 someone who may be "Dave Plowman
> > (News)"  wrote this:-
> > >> T&E instead of 3-core+E?
>
> > >Can you still buy that?
> > Screwfix list both on
> > <http://www.screwfix.com/cats/A231781/Electrical/Cable>
>
> Sorry - I read it as twin rather than TW&E. Looking for something that
> made sense.

I can see why perhaps, as I'm not finding it there^
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
"freepo"  wrote in message 
news:a0fad0bb-8e3c-4441-b682-524e12969597@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>I was just watching property ladder, and the guy said that after they
> had just installed the lighting circuit, they had found out it was the
> wrong sort of cable.
>
> Can you think of what he meant?  They didn't actually say any more on
> the subject - which is really annoying for a viewer, if we are not to
> make the same mistakes they should bloody well say what the exact
> problem was.
>
> The only things I can think of are low voltage lights, and the wrong
> colour coding of cables, which changed a few years ago.  Can you think
> of anything else it might have been?
> Thanks

Perhaps it was a bit of washing line.

mark
date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:17:33 +0100   author:   mark

Re: Wrong wiring for lighting circuit   
"Andy Wade"  wrote in message 
news:6jculoF2nblgU1@mid.individual.net...
> freepo wrote:
>> I was just watching property ladder, and the guy said that after they
>> had just installed the lighting circuit, they had found out it was the
>> wrong sort of cable.
>>
>> Can you think of what he meant?
>
> Possibly that an earth-shielded cable to BS 8436, such as Earthshield or 
> Flexishield,  was needed to allow it to be buried in the walls without RCD 
> protection whilst complying with the 17th edition?
>
> -- 

Brown brown instead of brown blue?

Adam
date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:25:43 GMT   author:   ARWadworth

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