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date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:25:33 +0100,    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
An adhesive problem   
Last year I replaced the headlining on my old car. It's a foam backed
nylon material which is glued to a fibre former. The instructions were to
use spray on contact adhesive which I got from the same trim suppliers. 
 And it's failed in several places - mostly where it's most under the
highest tension, like the dimples behind the grab handles.

 I'm wondering if the moisture content in the fibreboard was too high - I
did have it indoors for a couple of days before doing the job but perhaps
it needed longer?  

 Anyway - I'm going to do it again. The material isn't too expensive. So
what should I use to give a better grip to the fibreboard? Soak it in a
PVA solution? Anything else?

-- 
*The statement below is true.  

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 09:25:33 +0100   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: An adhesive problem   
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>  Last year I replaced the headlining on my old car. It's a foam backed
> nylon material which is glued to a fibre former. The instructions were to
> use spray on contact adhesive which I got from the same trim suppliers. 
>  And it's failed in several places - mostly where it's most under the
> highest tension, like the dimples behind the grab handles.
> 
>  I'm wondering if the moisture content in the fibreboard was too high - I
> did have it indoors for a couple of days before doing the job but perhaps
> it needed longer?  
> 
>  Anyway - I'm going to do it again. The material isn't too expensive. So
> what should I use to give a better grip to the fibreboard? Soak it in a
> PVA solution? Anything else?
> 
Use evostik.
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:25:08 +0100   author:   The Natural Philosopher a@b.c

Re: An adhesive problem   
"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
news:4fe0240515dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> Last year I replaced the headlining on my old car. It's a foam backed
> nylon material which is glued to a fibre former. The instructions were to
> use spray on contact adhesive which I got from the same trim suppliers.
> And it's failed in several places - mostly where it's most under the
> highest tension, like the dimples behind the grab handles.
>
> I'm wondering if the moisture content in the fibreboard was too high - I
> did have it indoors for a couple of days before doing the job but perhaps
> it needed longer?
>
> Anyway - I'm going to do it again. The material isn't too expensive. So
> what should I use to give a better grip to the fibreboard? Soak it in a
> PVA solution? Anything else?

PVA will wet it.
Maybe a thin coat of contact adhesive left to dry as a sealer would work 
better.
There are primers for some contact adhesives or at least I remember seeing 
what I thought was a primer a few years ago.
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:35:37 +0100   author:   dennis@home

Re: An adhesive problem   
In article <gaqj1i$6mu$1@news.datemas.de>, dennis@home 
 writes
>
>
>"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message
>news:4fe0240515dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>> Last year I replaced the headlining on my old car. It's a foam backed
>> nylon material which is glued to a fibre former. The instructions were to
>> use spray on contact adhesive which I got from the same trim suppliers.
>> And it's failed in several places - mostly where it's most under the
>> highest tension, like the dimples behind the grab handles.
>>
>> I'm wondering if the moisture content in the fibreboard was too high - I
>> did have it indoors for a couple of days before doing the job but perhaps
>> it needed longer?
>>
>> Anyway - I'm going to do it again. The material isn't too expensive. So
>> what should I use to give a better grip to the fibreboard? Soak it in a
>> PVA solution? Anything else?
>
>PVA will wet it.
>Maybe a thin coat of contact adhesive left to dry as a sealer would work
>better.
>There are primers for some contact adhesives or at least I remember seeing
>what I thought was a primer a few years ago.
>
If diluted a bit, the PVA might soak in better and stabilise the surface 
of the fibreboard but the contact adhesive would be more likely to go 
off on the surface leading to the same problem as before.

I hear what you say about the wetness though.
-- 
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 10:51:40 +0100   author:   fred

Re: An adhesive problem   
In article ,
   The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c> wrote:
> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> >  Last year I replaced the headlining on my old car. It's a foam backed
> > nylon material which is glued to a fibre former. The instructions were
> > to use spray on contact adhesive which I got from the same trim
> > suppliers. And it's failed in several places - mostly where it's most
> > under the highest tension, like the dimples behind the grab handles.
> > 
> >  I'm wondering if the moisture content in the fibreboard was too high
> > - I did have it indoors for a couple of days before doing the job but
> > perhaps it needed longer?  
> > 
> >  Anyway - I'm going to do it again. The material isn't too expensive.
> > So what should I use to give a better grip to the fibreboard? Soak it
> > in a PVA solution? Anything else?
> > 
> Use evostik.

Reports say Evostick isn't what it was. It's also difficult to apply to a
thin fabric evenly.

-- 
*I didn't drive my husband crazy -- I flew him there -- it was faster

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 11:20:15 +0100   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

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