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date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:44:57 +0100,    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
Garage door draught excluder   
Hi,

I am about to fit a draught excluder to my up and over garage door. I 
have a real muppet question - should this be fitted to the inside or the 
outside of the door?

I assumed that it should go on the inside so that the seal folds under 
the door as it closes, however I notice that a neighbour has one fitted 
to the outside. Who is correct?

The draught excluder in question is this: 
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/29327/Ironmongery/Draught-Rain-Excluders/Rain-Draught-Excluders/Garage-Seal-2500mm-Aluminium

Needless to say, the above item came with no fitting instructions...

Andy.
date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:44:57 +0100   author:   Andrew Macphail

Re: Garage door draught excluder   
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:44:57 +0100, Andrew Macphail wrote:

> I am about to fit a draught excluder to my up and over garage door. I 
> have a real muppet question - should this be fitted to the inside or the 
> outside of the door?
> 
> I assumed that it should go on the inside so that the seal folds under 
> the door as it closes, however I notice that a neighbour has one fitted 
> to the outside. Who is correct?

In my view you are as it'll be very difficult to get a seal between the 
mounting strip and the door unless you bed it on exterior grade silicon or 
similar. Without such a seal water running down the face of the door will 
simply run behind the mounting strip. Having said that with it mounted on 
the rear and folding under it might make opening the door difficult as 
it'll tend to dig into the ground. 

I went for a brush version rather than a flap mainly because the concrete 
along the line of the door base is none to smooth or flat. There is also a 
small 1" step up into the garage for the door/brush to come against. 
Couple of strips of old heavy duty rubber backed carpet up to the pivot 
points stop a lot of powder snow or leaves coming through the gap at the 
side as well.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:52:31 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

Re: Garage door draught excluder   
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:52:31 +0100 (BST), Dave Liquorice wrote:

> Having said that with it mounted on 
> the rear and folding under it might make opening the door difficult as 
> it'll tend to dig into the ground. 

It does the same on the front.

Using a brush version as you suggested might be the better option, where
did you find one?

Steve
date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:08:00 +0100   author:   Steve

Re: Garage door draught excluder   
Steve  wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:52:31 +0100 (BST), Dave Liquorice wrote:
> 
> > Having said that with it mounted on 
> > the rear and folding under it might make opening the door difficult as 
> > it'll tend to dig into the ground. 
> 
> It does the same on the front.
> 
> Using a brush version as you suggested might be the better option, where
> did you find one?

How about mounting it at an angle so that the rubber blade ends up at, say,
a 45 degree angle against the ground? 

-- 
Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own.
date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:18:56 +0100   author:   Jeremy Nicoll - news posts

Re: Garage door draught excluder   
"Andrew Macphail"  wrote in message 
news:48ce3cab$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Hi,
>
> I am about to fit a draught excluder to my up and over garage door. I have 
> a real muppet question - should this be fitted to the inside or the 
> outside of the door?

<snipped>

When I sealed our garage door I didn't require a total seal- just one good 
enough to limit the draughts and keep out the leaves etc. I used some 
plastic DPM- it comes in rolls about 6" wide.

For the top and sides I pop-riveted (with some washers) a strip to the door 
in the inside which over-lapped the "gap" and a bit of the frame. A few 
cut-outs are needed for the locks etc.

For the bottom I folded a bit of DPM length ways and pop-riveted to the 
inside of the door so it just touched the floor. I trimmed it abit so the 
electric door opened could cope with the extra friction.

It has been in place for (about) 10 years and still seems to do the job. I'm 
not claiming it is draught proof but you can't notice the draughts unless 
you look for them.

Brian


-- 
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:03:12 +0100   author:   Brian Reay lid

Re: Garage door draught excluder   
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:08:00 +0100, Steve wrote:

>> Having said that with it mounted on the rear and folding under it might 
>> make opening the door difficult as it'll tend to dig into the ground. 
> 
> It does the same on the front.

That sounds like the voice of experience.  B-)

At least on the front it would be easier to get at to lift where it is 
snagging, assuming it's not snagging along it's whole length.

> Using a brush version as you suggested might be the better option, where
> did you find one?

Now you're asking, probably B&Q. I think I've seen them in there fairly 
recently, the bristles are about 3cm long. There are shorter bristled one 
for ordinary doors you might getaway with a few of them if the ground it 
has to seal against is fairly flat and close to the door.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:45:59 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

Re: Garage door draught excluder   
On 2008-09-15, Brian Reay <see@website.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> "Andrew Macphail"  wrote in message 
> news:48ce3cab$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am about to fit a draught excluder to my up and over garage door. I have 
>> a real muppet question - should this be fitted to the inside or the 
>> outside of the door?
>
><snipped>
>
> When I sealed our garage door I didn't require a total seal- just one good 
> enough to limit the draughts and keep out the leaves etc. 

Me too. I bought some uPVC strip from Wickes, cut it to length (IOW, the width
of the doors), closed the door and stood the strip upright (so it was resting on
the ground), then fastened it to the door with self-tappers & silicone. Et
voila! No more mice. And lots fewer draughts.


-- 
          "Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain
                 and presumptuous desire for a second one."
               [email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]
date: 16 Sep 2008 11:00:48 GMT   author:   Huge lid

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