As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet 
rot in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to 
kill the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but I 
don't seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have been 
stopped in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.

Are there any other likely sources, or has it been completely banned?

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Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet rot 
> in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to kill 
> the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but I don't 
> seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have been stopped 
> in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.
> 
> Are there any other likely sources, or has it been completely banned?
> 
AF would take forever to dry, especially if it soaked into the wood. I'd 
think carefully before using it

There's a load of stuff online about polyethylene glycol being used to 
preserve The Mary Rose, but that is a solid, wax-like material that 
dissolves in water. You can get it from an artists supplier like 
A.P.Fitzpatrick, but I'm not sure how it would be of any use for this 
application.

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet rot
> in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to kill
> the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but I don't
> seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have been stopped
> in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.
> 
> Are there any other likely sources, or has it been completely banned?
> 
So is cuprinol, why not use that???

Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet rot 
> in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to kill 
> the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but I don't 
> seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have been stopped 
> in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.
> 
> Are there any other likely sources, or has it been completely banned?
> 
There are better things: essentially all you need to do is dry the wood 
and then soak exposed surfaces with a penetrating and hard setting 
polymer or resin of some sort.

Chewbacca expressed precisely :
> Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>> As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet rot
>> in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to kill
>> the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but I don't
>> seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have been stopped
>> in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.
>> 
>> Are there any other likely sources, or has it been completely banned?
>> 
> So is cuprinol, why not use that???

Because I was convinced by the reading of several articles on the 
Internet a few years ago, that EG was more effective in curing existing 
rot.

Here is one such article:-
http://www.angelfire.com/nc3/davecarnell/rot.html

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        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
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In message , Harry 
Bloomfield  writes
>As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet 
>rot in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to 
>kill the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but I 
>don't seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have been 
>stopped in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.
>
>Are there any other likely sources, or has it been completely banned?
>
Can you still buy Austrian wine ?

-- 
geoff

In article ,
   Harry Bloomfield  wrote:
> As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet 
> rot in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to 
> kill the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but I 
> don't seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have been 
> stopped in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.

I've a feeling it's no longer used because of the amount of aluminium in
most modern engines.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
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geoff wrote:
> In message , Harry 
> Bloomfield  writes
>> As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet 
>> rot in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to 
>> kill the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but 
>> I don't seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have 
>> been stopped in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.
>>
>> Are there any other likely sources, or has it been completely banned?
>>
> Can you still buy Austrian wine ?
> 
But you might need a whisky chaser. :-)

"A woman who drank anti-freeze was prescribed whisky as an antidote 
after her potentially life-threatening mistake.

Glennis Middleton, from Forfar in Angus, was told that anti-freeze can 
cause kidney failure, blindness and even death.

Doctors at Ninewells Hospital in Dundee told her that alcohol was the 
antidote and gave her a choice of gin, vodka or whisky.

She chose whisky - known as the "water of life" - and was given two 
cupfuls to drink immediately."

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2617997.stm>

-- 
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"Rod"  wrote in message 
news:6j1bpuF111m3U1@mid.individual.net...
> geoff wrote:
>> In message , Harry 
>> Bloomfield  writes
>>> As in car anti-freeze, is reputed to be very useful for stopping wet rot 
>>> in wood - allowing it to be then successfully repaired. I need to kill 
>>> the rot in a wooden window sill to enable it to be repaired, but I don't 
>>> seem to have any in my garage. The sale of it seems to have been stopped 
>>> in car accessory sops and the chemists refuse to sell it.
>>>
>>> Are there any other likely sources, or has it been completely banned?
>>>
>> Can you still buy Austrian wine ?
>>
> But you might need a whisky chaser. :-)
>
> "A woman who drank anti-freeze was prescribed whisky as an antidote after 
> her potentially life-threatening mistake.
>
> Glennis Middleton, from Forfar in Angus, was told that anti-freeze can 
> cause kidney failure, blindness and even death.
>
> Doctors at Ninewells Hospital in Dundee told her that alcohol was the 
> antidote and gave her a choice of gin, vodka or whisky.
>
> She chose whisky - known as the "water of life" - and was given two 
> cupfuls to drink immediately."
>
> <http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2617997.stm>
>
> -- 
> Rod
>
<TOXICOLOGY HAT ON>

The reason for this is that ethylene glycol is not directly toxic but it is 
metabolised by by an enzyme - alchohol dehydrogenase (AD) intoo a toxic 
metabloite.  AD is also the enzyme that breaks down ethanol. As there is 
only a finite amount of AD available the metabolism of the ethylene glycol 
can be vastly reduced by the application of an excess of ethanol.  This is 
also the mechanism of toxicity for methanol.

<TOXICOLOGY HAT OFF>

Cheers

Mark

On 13 Sep, 08:24, "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote:

> I've a feeling it's no longer used because of the amount of aluminium in
> most modern engines.

It is still used. It degredes in use into something acidic, which
causes the damage to engine components; hence the advice to change
anti-freeze every 3 or 4 years.
MEG is very toxic.

The stuff that was used in the wine was propylene glycol, which is
also used as an artificial sweetener. It is used in heating & chilled
water systems where there's a risk of freezing.

Rod wrote:
> "A woman who drank anti-freeze was prescribed whisky as an antidote 
> after her potentially life-threatening mistake.

Does it work if taken as a prophylactic?

Owain

Owain wrote:
> Rod wrote:
>> "A woman who drank anti-freeze was prescribed whisky as an antidote 
>> after her potentially life-threatening mistake.
> 
> Does it work if taken as a prophylactic?
> 
> Owain
> 
Nice thought.

But I got a mercifully brief image of a hospital nurse giving out 
condoms filled with (cheap) whisky... :-(

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:38:33 +0100, Owain
 wrote:

>Rod wrote:
>> "A woman who drank anti-freeze was prescribed whisky as an antidote 
>> after her potentially life-threatening mistake.
>
>Does it work if taken as a prophylactic?
>

If you take enough. 8-0

(So there's still enough C2H5OH in your system when the Glycol hits).

Derek