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date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:13:29 +0100,    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
Hi, all.

I wish to bring a cable ( cat6 ethernet ) in through through the 
plasterboard, to plug into a wall-mounted Wireless Access Point.   I'd like 
to minimise the visual impact, so I don't want to have a faceplate and patch 
lead, which would be near as big as the WAP itself.   So I'm looking at 
simply bringing the cable through the plasterboard, and crimping the RJ45 
onto the cable directly ( I have the tools ).

What's the smallest and neatest way to cover the entry hole?

'Nothing' is an obvious option:  just drill / poke a neat hole and pass the 
cable through, and be done with it.   Bodge with filler and paint over as 
necessary.

Is that the best?

-- 
Ron
date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:13:29 +0100   author:   Ron Lowe ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:13:29 +0100, Ron Lowe wrote:

> Hi, all.
> 
> I wish to bring a cable ( cat6 ethernet ) in through through the 
> plasterboard, to plug into a wall-mounted Wireless Access Point.   I'd 
like 
> to minimise the visual impact, so I don't want to have a faceplate and 
patch 
> lead, which would be near as big as the WAP itself.   So I'm looking at 
> simply bringing the cable through the plasterboard, and crimping the 
RJ45 
> onto the cable directly ( I have the tools ).
> 
> What's the smallest and neatest way to cover the entry hole?
> 
> 'Nothing' is an obvious option:  just drill / poke a neat hole and pass 
the 
> cable through, and be done with it.   Bodge with filler and paint over 
as 
> necessary.
> 
> Is that the best?
> 
> -- 
> Ron
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:07:08 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 19:13:29 +0100, Ron Lowe wrote:

> What's the smallest and neatest way to cover the entry hole?

Mount the WAP on a wooden pattress (real meaning of the word...) with a 
suitably large hole in the middle so the network cable doesn't have to 
make any really tight bends and fix that around the hole in the plaster 
board. Might be able to use a large (10mm) LED clip as a sort of 
plasterboard grommit.

You say the WAP is about the same size as single wall plate. Fix a single 
drylining box and mount the WAP on a flex outlet plate that has the cable 
clamp on an edge rather than the middle.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:12:35 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
Hi
Mount the WAP over the entry hole in the wall ?
Or if you know an aerial fitter or Sky engineer borrow one of their wall 
guides ,these are a small plastic plug which fit into a 8mm hole and have a 
20mm cap which fits flush to the wall.(Like a flat mushroom with a hole in 
the middle) sizes vary but all the fitters I have met carry 2 or 3 different 
ones,
HTH
CJ
date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 22:13:42 +0100   author:   cj

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
cj wrote on 01/09/2008 :
> Hi
> Mount the WAP over the entry hole in the wall ?
> Or if you know an aerial fitter or Sky engineer borrow one of their wall 
> guides ,these are a small plastic plug which fit into a 8mm hole and have a 
> 20mm cap which fits flush to the wall.(Like a flat mushroom with a hole in 
> the middle) sizes vary but all the fitters I have met carry 2 or 3 different 
> ones,
> HTH
> CJ

Champagne cork with a hole drilled down the centre for the cable, 
painted up to match.

You may need to DIY (drink it yourself).

-- 
Regards,
        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
date: Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:50:49 +0100   author:   Harry Bloomfield

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
How about a wall grommet as used for tidying up the entry point for a
TV aerial?  Called a cable tidy wall grommet or some such, it's
basically a plastic plug that pushes into a 10mm hole with a 7mm hole
through the centre.
date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:50:48 -0700 (PDT)   author:   GMM

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
Ron Lowe wrote:
> Hi, all.
> 
> I wish to bring a cable ( cat6 ethernet ) in through through the 
> plasterboard, to plug into a wall-mounted Wireless Access Point.   I'd 
> like to minimise the visual impact, so I don't want to have a faceplate 
> and patch lead, which would be near as big as the WAP itself.   So I'm 
> looking at simply bringing the cable through the plasterboard, and 
> crimping the RJ45 onto the cable directly ( I have the tools ).
> 
> What's the smallest and neatest way to cover the entry hole?
> 
> 'Nothing' is an obvious option:  just drill / poke a neat hole and pass 
> the cable through, and be done with it.   Bodge with filler and paint 
> over as necessary.
> 
> Is that the best?
> 

Id recommend a larger hole and use decorators caulk..
date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:09:22 +0100   author:   The Natural Philosopher a@b.c

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
On Sep 2, 10:09 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c> wrote:
> Ron Lowe wrote:
> > Hi, all.
>
> > I wish to bring a cable ( cat6 ethernet ) in through through the
> > plasterboard, to plug into a wall-mounted Wireless Access Point.   I'd
> > like to minimise the visual impact, so I don't want to have a faceplate
> > and patch lead, which would be near as big as the WAP itself.   So I'm
> > looking at simply bringing the cable through the plasterboard, and
> > crimping the RJ45 onto the cable directly ( I have the tools ).
>
> > What's the smallest and neatest way to cover the entry hole?
>
> > 'Nothing' is an obvious option:  just drill / poke a neat hole and pass
> > the cable through, and be done with it.   Bodge with filler and paint
> > over as necessary.
>
> > Is that the best?
>
> Id recommend a larger hole and use decorators caulk..

the caulk drops out quickly due to the slightest cable movement.
Silicone is better, though as it cant be sanded youve got to get it
right


NT
date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT), meow2222@care2.com wrote:

> the caulk drops out quickly due to the slightest cable movement.

That probably depends on how much you squidge in and how neat the hole 
isn't. Anyway it appears there are several variations on a cable grommit 
for holes in walls that would be far more suitable if mounting the WAP ona 
pattress over the hole is too much work.

> Silicone is better, though as it cant be sanded youve got to get it
> right

Decorators caulk can't be sanded either at least not the flexable stuff 
for the cracks between wood and plaster work. Big advantage of decorators 
caulk over silicone is that it doesn't skin in the blink of an eye and is 
thus easier to smooth with the wet finger.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 09:16:28 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
"Dave Liquorice"  wrote in message 
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypbz.k6mfjg1.pminews@srv1.howhill.net...
> On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 20:46:14 -0700 (PDT), meow2222@care2.com wrote:
>
>> the caulk drops out quickly due to the slightest cable movement.
>
> That probably depends on how much you squidge in and how neat the hole
> isn't. Anyway it appears there are several variations on a cable grommit
> for holes in walls that would be far more suitable if mounting the WAP ona
> pattress over the hole is too much work.
>

No, it's not too much work.
It's just that the WAP mounting bracket mounts the WAP very close to the 
wall, so it's not really possible to bring the cable down behind it to the 
LAN port on the bottom.   Another issue is the severe bending radius: cat6 
cable is somewhat less flexible than cat5.

The cable entry grommets are the solution I have decided upon for this 
application.   It will provide a very neat solution.

Thanks to all.

-- 
Ron
date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:09:08 +0100   author:   Ron Lowe ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS

Re: Cable entry cosmetics - plasterboard   
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 19:09:08 +0100, Ron Lowe wrote:

>> if mounting the WAP on a pattress over the hole is too much work.
>
> No, it's not too much work.
> It's just that the WAP mounting bracket mounts the WAP very close to the 
> wall, so it's not really possible to bring the cable down behind it to 
> the LAN port on the bottom.

Cut a groove in the pattress to take the cable behind the mounting 
bracket.

> Another issue is the severe bending radius: cat6 cable is somewhat less 
> flexible than cat5.

A google indicates that the static installed minimum radius is about 4 x 
dia so something above 20mm. Make the  pattress an inch thick with good 
sized hole and there you are. To bring the cable back up into the WAP port 
just use a 50mm dia semicirular loop. One has to pay attention to the 
relative positions of the port and the groove...

-- 
Cheers
Dave.
date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:04:18 +0100 (BST)   author:   Dave Liquorice

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