just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open
the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next?

No I never cut myself.

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:35 GMT, "George" 
wrote:

>just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open
>the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next?
>
>No I never cut myself.
>
You applied it to the job and found it never really set?

Regards,



-- 
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

On Aug 20, 6:06 pm, Stephen Howard  wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:35 GMT, "George" 
> wrote:
>
> >just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open
> >the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next?
>
> >No I never cut myself.
>
> You applied it to the job and found it never really set?
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorationswww.shwoodwind.co.uk
> Emails to: showard{whoisat}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

Not as bad as me!
My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel.
This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover!
Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart.
Next time read the instructions!

George wrote:
> "T i m"  wrote in message
> news:l9coa4pm7obl53n874erh7cdet3hc61bpd@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:31:35 GMT, "George" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut
> open
>>> the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next?
>>>
>>> No I never cut myself.
>>>
>> 4 half tubes of glue?
>>
>> What do I win?
>>
>> All the best ..
>>
>> T i m
> 
> Half a Blue Peter badge.
> 
> The blade slipped and went the full lenght of one of the tubes. :-( will
> masking tape round the tube stop it from going solid? it being a two part
> expoxy.
> 
> 
Yes. For a while.

In message <bVVqk.45511$E41.887@text.news.virginmedia.com>, George 
 writes
>just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open
>the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next?
>
>No I never cut myself.
>
You got abducted by aliens ?

-- 
geoff

chudford wrote:
>
>Not as bad as me!
>My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel.
>This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover!
>Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart.
>Next time read the instructions!

Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the same 
time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub; and 
Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me...


-- 
Ian White

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:45:12 +0100, geoff  wrote:

>In message <bVVqk.45511$E41.887@text.news.virginmedia.com>, George 
> writes
>>just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open
>>the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next?
>>
>>No I never cut myself.
>>
>You got abducted by aliens ?

Silly sod. ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:54:32 +0100, Ian White 
wrote:

>chudford wrote:
>>
>>Not as bad as me!
>>My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel.
>>This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover!
>>Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart.
>>Next time read the instructions!
>
>Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the same 
>time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub; and 
>Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me...

And around 60 years on, Evo-Stik is about as efficient a glue as Deep
Heat. There's progress for ya...

Regards,



-- 
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 20:54:32 +0100, Ian White 
wrote:

>chudford wrote:
>>
>>Not as bad as me!
>>My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel.
>>This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover!
>>Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart.
>>Next time read the instructions!
>
>Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the same 
>time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub; and 
>Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me...

In front of me I keep a tiny bottle of superglue and a similarly small
bottle of 'Vital Eyes' soother for contact lens users.
I make a point of double checking before I use either...

-- 
Frank Erskine

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:04:41 +0000, Stephen Howard
 wrote:

>
>And around 60 years on, Evo-Stik is about as efficient a glue as Deep
>Heat. 

Well, whilst I can't say I've tried Deep Heat as an adhesive <g> I
will say I've used Evo-Stick with great success on one application in
particular.

When making up battery packs for RC Model racing cars I lay the cells
out in whatever format is required then run Evo-Stick between them.
When set(ish) I turn the pack over and repeat on the reverse. I might
apply that a couple of times and when finished (and cured for a couple
of days) you have a pack that will generally tear the outer wrap off
the cells before the glue will give up. Some folk use Super Glue (as
it cures faster) but it is very rigid and offers no give when yer car
goes from 35 mph to 0 mph  against an immovable object (wall, table,
marshals foot etc). :-(

You are reminded how well it sticks if/when you try to split the pack
up again later.

Apart from that, no, I don't use Evo-Stick for much these days. ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

In article ,
   T i m  wrote:
> When making up battery packs for RC Model racing cars I lay the cells
> out in whatever format is required then run Evo-Stick between them.
> When set(ish) I turn the pack over and repeat on the reverse. I might
> apply that a couple of times and when finished (and cured for a couple
> of days) you have a pack that will generally tear the outer wrap off
> the cells before the glue will give up. Some folk use Super Glue (as
> it cures faster) but it is very rigid and offers no give when yer car
> goes from 35 mph to 0 mph  against an immovable object (wall, table,
> marshals foot etc). :-(

Have you tried hot melt? That's what I use for this sort of thing - no
waiting for it to dry.

-- 
*When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane *

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"George"  wrote in message 
news:bVVqk.45511$E41.887@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> just bought a pkt of £4 Araldite Rapid glue,got a stanly knife to cut open
> the heat sealed packaging...anyone guess what happened next?

You took up glue sniffing ?

I'd like to add that currently the worst/most difficult packaging I have 
found
was on a pack of 25 lintels from B&Q. The plastic seemed excessively thick
just to hold these small bits of metal. I used a pair of 'standard' kitchen 
scissors
to cut along the top of the plastic, it was tough going but on the second 
cut the
scissors broke at the rivet, so I had an unopened packet and two scissor 
pieces.
I used a stanly knife in the end a proper metal handle one, the sort that 
would
be illegal to carry around the street, in the pocket of your hoodie.
Still never managed to open the packaging, so had to just rip in to it with 
the knife.

I recall reading about one in the local paper some years back.
Someone bought a pair of airosol cans on offer and shrinkwrapped
together. She used a knife to separate them, which punctured
one of the cans, which exploded apart once punctured. The butane
propellant caught light, burning off her hair. 

-- 
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Ian White wrote:
> chudford wrote:
>>
>> Not as bad as me!
>> My daughter had this tube of superglue with a free bottle of gel.
>> This dozy git thought this gel was super glue remover!
>> Three hours later I managed to pry my fingers apart.
>> Next time read the instructions!
>
> Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the
> same time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub;
> and Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me...

I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's  being in an aerosol can that 
looked exactly like my mums hair spray...


-- 
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
> I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's  being in an aerosol can that 
> looked exactly like my mums hair spray...

Deodorant on your hair wouldn't have done you any harm ...

Owain

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:54:55 +0100, T i m  wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:04:41 +0000, Stephen Howard
> wrote:
>
>>
>>And around 60 years on, Evo-Stik is about as efficient a glue as Deep
>>Heat. 
>
>Well, whilst I can't say I've tried Deep Heat as an adhesive <g> I
>will say I've used Evo-Stick with great success on one application in
>particular.
>
>When making up battery packs for RC Model racing cars I lay the cells
>out in whatever format is required then run Evo-Stick between them.
>When set(ish) I turn the pack over and repeat on the reverse. I might
>apply that a couple of times and when finished (and cured for a couple
>of days) you have a pack that will generally tear the outer wrap off
>the cells before the glue will give up. Some folk use Super Glue (as
>it cures faster) but it is very rigid and offers no give when yer car
>goes from 35 mph to 0 mph  against an immovable object (wall, table,
>marshals foot etc). :-(
>
>You are reminded how well it sticks if/when you try to split the pack
>up again later.
>
>Apart from that, no, I don't use Evo-Stick for much these days. ;-)
>
I guess I'm what you'd call a 'Professional user' of the stuff - for
the last 30 odd years I've been glueing small bits of cork and felt to
various woodwind instruments with Evo-Stik - it used to be the perfect
glue; reasonably easy to apply, readily available, quick to set and
very tenacious. From stripping an existing piece of cork to cutting a
new one and sticking it in place ready to be cut or sanded would take
barely a minute or so - but when they shifted over to the 'new,
improved' formula I began to have failures all over the place.
Corks would rip off during sanding or move when being cut - and no
amount of technique modification would result in as reliable a job as
the old formula gave me.

I got so teed off by it that I rang up Evo-Stik in a fit of
indignation the other day and told their tech. dept. rep. that their
new glue was 'rubbish'.
It's all down to the Toluene. It's not there any more, they had to
remove it due to <insert H&S/Europanic/Nanny State reason here > - and
so 'New, faster drying formula' actually means 'It's not as good any
more'.
So I did the only thing left open to me - got on Ebay and bought as
many tins of the old stuff as I could. I got 18.
All I really need to do now is source some squeezable ali tubes to
decant the stuff into - but it seems that the only place you can get
them from these days is the place in Ireland that makes them
for...Evo-Stik!

Regards,



-- 
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:01:03 +0000, Stephen Howard
 wrote:


>I guess I'm what you'd call a 'Professional user' of the stuff - for
>the last 30 odd years I've been glueing small bits of cork and felt to
>various woodwind instruments with Evo-Stik - it used to be the perfect
>glue; reasonably easy to apply, readily available, quick to set and
>very tenacious. From stripping an existing piece of cork to cutting a
>new one and sticking it in place ready to be cut or sanded would take
>barely a minute or so - but when they shifted over to the 'new,
>improved' formula I began to have failures all over the place.
>Corks would rip off during sanding or move when being cut - and no
>amount of technique modification would result in as reliable a job as
>the old formula gave me.
>
>I got so teed off by it that I rang up Evo-Stik in a fit of
>indignation the other day and told their tech. dept. rep. that their
>new glue was 'rubbish'.
>It's all down to the Toluene. It's not there any more, they had to
>remove it due to <insert H&S/Europanic/Nanny State reason here > - and
>so 'New, faster drying formula' actually means 'It's not as good any
>more'.

Isn't that really sad. You're obviously a professional user of
adhesives (glue!), who has used it satisfactorily for decades. Once
again 'we' (as English/British/'Europeans') are forbidden to practice
our crafts purely because of the whims of politicians who take notice
solely of lawyer-types (usually French or thereabouts) who seem to run
the whole show.

It's exactly the same with 'lead-free' solder (and paint), creosote
and so on.

I agree entirely with you about 'new' Evo-Stik. It seems little more
effective than Gloy paste (and more difficult to use).

>So I did the only thing left open to me - got on Ebay and bought as
>many tins of the old stuff as I could. I got 18.
>All I really need to do now is source some squeezable ali tubes to
>decant the stuff into - but it seems that the only place you can get
>them from these days is the place in Ireland that makes them
>for...Evo-Stik!

Empty toothpaste tubes?

Will the Irish place supply you with empty tubes? If so, and you have
a facility to fill 'em there's a business opportunity, if you can
source more from Ebay...

I wonder if it might be possible to get much the same stuff from a
non-EU country (although HMR&C might raise an objection to importing
anything useful and effective).

;-)

-- 
Frank Erskine

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:54:30 +0100, Frank Erskine
 wrote:

>On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:01:03 +0000, Stephen Howard
> wrote:
>
>
>>I guess I'm what you'd call a 'Professional user' of the stuff - for
>>the last 30 odd years I've been glueing small bits of cork and felt to
>>various woodwind instruments with Evo-Stik - it used to be the perfect
>>glue; reasonably easy to apply, readily available, quick to set and
>>very tenacious. From stripping an existing piece of cork to cutting a
>>new one and sticking it in place ready to be cut or sanded would take
>>barely a minute or so - but when they shifted over to the 'new,
>>improved' formula I began to have failures all over the place.
>>Corks would rip off during sanding or move when being cut - and no
>>amount of technique modification would result in as reliable a job as
>>the old formula gave me.
<snip>
>
>Isn't that really sad. You're obviously a professional user of
>adhesives (glue!), who has used it satisfactorily for decades. Once
>again 'we' (as English/British/'Europeans') are forbidden to practice
>our crafts purely because of the whims of politicians who take notice
>solely of lawyer-types (usually French or thereabouts) who seem to run
>the whole show.
>
>It's exactly the same with 'lead-free' solder (and paint), creosote
>and so on.

Apparently the Toluene was the solvent that gave the glue-sniffers
their kicks ( I can see why, the old Evo-Stik smells much nicer than
the new stuff ). As per usual it seems that the solution is to kow-tow
to the lowest common denominator and get rid of the stuff that makes
the glue work so that kids don't get smashed on it.
And now they don't - but that doesn't bother them, they just move on
to more lethal substances.

I can still get leaded solder ( 60/40 or 70/30 ) within the trade, so
that's not an issue yet - but it's already clear that lead-free solder
is about as good as 'new, improved' Evo-Stik for my application.

>
>I agree entirely with you about 'new' Evo-Stik. It seems little more
>effective than Gloy paste (and more difficult to use).
>
>>All I really need to do now is source some squeezable ali tubes to
>>decant the stuff into - but it seems that the only place you can get
>>them from these days is the place in Ireland that makes them
>>for...Evo-Stik!
>
>Empty toothpaste tubes?
>
>Will the Irish place supply you with empty tubes? If so, and you have
>a facility to fill 'em there's a business opportunity, if you can
>source more from Ebay...
>
>I wonder if it might be possible to get much the same stuff from a
>non-EU country (although HMR&C might raise an objection to importing
>anything useful and effective).

I'm thinking that plastic tubes won't sit well with the solvent in the
glue, otherwise Evo-Stik would be using them already.
Don't know if the Irish place will supply me - but it would be a
simple order...just a batch of unmarked tubes. I suspect it'll be a
trial filling and sealing them by hand though ( might be worth getting
a few glue sniffers round for a 'Nostalgia evening' ).

I should imagine that if, as it seems, Toluene has all but disappeared
from the shelves then it means that the directive that caused that
makes it illegal to sell certain products containing it.
If that's not the case then I look forward to a new glue on the market
that says on the tube 'Contains Toluene - so stick it!'

I haven't checked out the possibilities of sourcing Toluene-based
glues from non-EU countries, but I suspect the directive forbids
import.
I did see some flooring adhesive that contains it, but the stuff's too
thick for my purposes - and I found a company that claims to have
invented a Toluene substitute ( Formula66 )...so clearly it's a
solvent that's still in demand.

Regards,



-- 
Stephen Howard - Woodwind repairs & period restorations
http://www.shwoodwind.co.uk
Emails to: showard{who is at}shwoodwind{dot}co{dot}uk

Thus spake T i m (news@spaced.me.uk) unto the assembled multitudes:

> Well, whilst I can't say I've tried Deep Heat as an adhesive <g> I
> will say I've used Evo-Stick with great success [...]

Not long after I started working and had inky hands one day, I was told by
one of the old lags that a tin of Cow Gum was an equivalent of Swarfega....

Oh how everyone laughed.

-- 
                                 Andy Clews
                            University of Sussex
                 *** Remove DENTURES if replying by email ***

The Medway Handyman wrote:
> Ian White wrote:

>> Back in the 1950s, two new products that happened to appear at the
>> same time - and both sold in a tube - were Deep Heat Fast Relief Rub;
>> and Evo-Stik. You're already ahead of me...

> I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's  being in an aerosol can that 
> looked exactly like my mums hair spray...

Has there ever been such a thing as aerosol shoe polish? I have a vague 
childhood memory of my Dad (used to polish his uniform shoes every 
morning in the bedroom) ending up with black-polished arm-pits through a 
similar mistake.

Come to think of it, maybe it was roller-ball deodorant and one of those 
liquid-polish bottles with a pad on the end.

Pete

Owain  wrote:

> The Medway Handyman wrote:
> > I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's  being in an aerosol can that
> > looked exactly like my mums hair spray...
> 
> Deodorant on your hair wouldn't have done you any harm ...

The Medway Pratt is blowing it out of his arse, again. "Cossack" in the
mid 60s was a male hairspray, not a deodorant. Although I wouldn't put
it past him to have starched his armpits.

And since I know the bleating prat is going to start whining that I'm
wrong, here's the proof:

http://store.vintagepaperads.com/catalog/Z038.jpg

The deodorant didn't figure until later.

In message <1im4z5r.kbuxlxralklfN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
<%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes
>Owain  wrote:
>
>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>> > I recall 'Cossack' deodorant in the mid 60's  being in an aerosol can that
>> > looked exactly like my mums hair spray...
>>
>> Deodorant on your hair wouldn't have done you any harm ...
>
>The Medway Pratt is blowing it out of his arse, again. "Cossack" in the
>mid 60s was a male hairspray, not a deodorant. Although I wouldn't put
>it past him to have starched his armpits.
>
>And since I know the bleating prat is going to start whining that I'm
>wrong, here's the proof:
>
>http://store.vintagepaperads.com/catalog/Z038.jpg
>
>The deodorant didn't figure until later.

fucking hell girls - give it a rest

-- 
geoff

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Pete Verdon
<usenet@verdonet.organisation.unitedkingdom.invalid> saying something
like:

>Come to think of it, maybe it was roller-ball deodorant and one of those 
>liquid-polish bottles with a pad on the end.

NTNOCN...

"I would like to purchase a deodorant."

"Certainly, Sir. Ball or aerosol?"
-- 
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
 How much more suspenseful can you get?"
 - House