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date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:33:41 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
Hi,

Can anyone please tell me if there any energy saving lightbulbs on the
market that have an equivalent output to 150W incandescent bulbs? Its
just I find that the manufacturers claims don't hold true when it
comes to equivalent output.

Many thanks!
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 14:33:41 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Distorted Vision

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Distorted Vision   wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can anyone please tell me if there any energy saving lightbulbs on the
> market that have an equivalent output to 150W incandescent bulbs? Its
> just I find that the manufacturers claims don't hold true when it
> comes to equivalent output.
>
> Many thanks!

I doubt it! I'm not sure that any even *claim* to do so and - as you say - 
most of the claims are a gross exaggeration. I can only assume that they use 
the grottiest incandescent bulbs they can find when making the comparison.
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date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:01:31 +0100   author:   Roger Mills

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
"Roger Mills"  wrote in message 
news:6g19lkFds5apU1@mid.individual.net...
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Distorted Vision   wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can anyone please tell me if there any energy saving lightbulbs on the
>> market that have an equivalent output to 150W incandescent bulbs? Its
>> just I find that the manufacturers claims don't hold true when it
>> comes to equivalent output.
>>
>> Many thanks!
>
> I doubt it! I'm not sure that any even *claim* to do so and - as you say - 
> most of the claims are a gross exaggeration. I can only assume that they 
> use the grottiest incandescent bulbs they can find when making the 
> comparison.

The comparison is made against soft tone lamps, not GLS lamps.

Colin Bignell
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:08:49 +0100   author:   nightjar cpb@insert my surname here.me.uk

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
In article ,
	Distorted Vision  writes:
> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone please tell me if there any energy saving lightbulbs on the
> market that have an equivalent output to 150W incandescent bulbs? Its
> just I find that the manufacturers claims don't hold true when it
> comes to equivalent output.

Ignore manufacturer's claims and use a general 1:4 ratio for
plain energy saving lightbulbs. (Reflector ones are a lot lower.)
So using this, you need a 37W lamp. The highest I've seen in
normal retail outlets is a 30W lamp in Homebase, screw fitting
only. Costco have some 25W ones (Feit) which seem quite good in
packs of 4, but are going to be nearer 100W equiv. I've got several
in use and no problems so far, but they're only a few months old.

These higher powered ones don't last as long operating cap up,
because the tube generates lots of heat which roasts the electronics
in the lamp base. You can get higher powered ones from specialist
mail order suppliers.

-- 
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
date: 07 Aug 2008 23:54:00 GMT   author:   (Andrew Gabriel)

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
Distorted Vision wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone please tell me if there any energy saving lightbulbs on the
> market that have an equivalent output to 150W incandescent bulbs? Its
> just I find that the manufacturers claims don't hold true when it
> comes to equivalent output.
>
> Many thanks!

maybe these have some:
http://www.eurobatteries.com/sitepages/fluorescentcompact.asp


NT
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 19:11:46 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
Can you please tell me which specialist suppliers sell higher powered
bulbs. I can't find any using Google.

Thanks.
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 00:18:50 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Distorted Vision

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
"Distorted Vision"  wrote in message 
news:960c5fbb-b14b-4f1f-9735-781fcda491bb@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Can you please tell me which specialist suppliers sell higher powered
> bulbs. I can't find any using Google.

Megaman make high power CFL (not very C).
If you google for them and see what else the supplier sells.

>
> Thanks.
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 08:57:23 +0100   author:   dennis@home

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
wrote in message 
news:b6157699-2442-40cb-83b5-ae6dbd3f6950@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Distorted Vision wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can anyone please tell me if there any energy saving lightbulbs on the
>> market that have an equivalent output to 150W incandescent bulbs? Its
>> just I find that the manufacturers claims don't hold true when it
>> comes to equivalent output.
>>
>> Many thanks!
>
> maybe these have some:
> http://www.eurobatteries.com/sitepages/fluorescentcompact.asp
>
>
> NT

As an aside, if a 150 watt is currently used in (say) a central light 
fitting, would it be better anyway to change the fitting for 2 or 3 others 
to spread the light better. 150 watt is a bit intense in one location (in 
some cases)
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 09:14:24 +0100   author:   John

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
Thanks for the reply. The Megaman WL130 would have been great but its
17.6cm long! Its far too big for my needs. I'm guessing a 30W GLS
shaped one does not exist right?
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:01:56 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Distorted Vision

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
In article ,
	Distorted Vision  writes:
> Thanks for the reply. The Megaman WL130 would have been great but its
> 17.6cm long! Its far too big for my needs. I'm guessing a 30W GLS
> shaped one does not exist right?

No. The homebase one I mentioned is 17cm long (if they still do it).

In terms of size-for-size replacements, anything over about 10W
(i.e. 40W GLS equivalent) is going to be bigger than the GLS lamp
it replaces. CFL's are slowly getting physically smaller, but that's
where they're at at the moment.

Also, the more compact the folding/coiling of the tube, the less
efficient as more of the tubing becomes obscured by itself resulting
in lost light output.

-- 
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
date: 08 Aug 2008 10:38:20 GMT   author:   (Andrew Gabriel)

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
On Fri, 8 Aug 2008 03:01:56 -0700 (PDT) someone who may be Distorted
Vision  wrote this:-

>Thanks for the reply. The Megaman WL130 would have been great but its
>17.6cm long! Its far too big for my needs. I'm guessing a 30W GLS
>shaped one does not exist right?

150W filament lamps tend to be large.

What are you using the lamp for and is it mounted in a fitting which
can stand the heat?





-- 
  David Hansen, Edinburgh 
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 http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54
date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:00:56 +0100   author:   David Hansen

Re: Energy Saving Lightbulbs   
I ended up getting these GE 20W GLS:

http://tinyurl.com/5kdcyj

 I have two downstairs in the hallway and three upstairs on the
landing. They work great and I can't even really tell the difference
in brightness between the 150W ones they replaced.  I tried them in a
bedroom and my study but its not bright enough and also I don't like
the lighting for reading etc in those rooms.

Cheers!
date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:36:09 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Distorted Vision

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