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date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:26:19 +0100,    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
Intruder Alarms   
Hi,

I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like the look 
of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they are in that are 
they prone to interference from other wireless devices e.g. mobiles, 
internet connections, cordless phones etc?

Thanks
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:26:19 +0100   author:   Fredrick Skoog

Re: Intruder Alarms   
In article ,
	"Fredrick Skoog"  writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like the look 
> of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they are in that are 
> they prone to interference from other wireless devices e.g. mobiles, 
> internet connections, cordless phones etc?

Don't you already have the cabling installed for your current one?

-- 
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
date: 07 Aug 2008 20:16:25 GMT   author:   (Andrew Gabriel)

Re: Intruder Alarms   
Fredrick Skoog wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like the
> look of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they are in
> that are they prone to interference from other wireless devices e.g.
> mobiles, internet connections, cordless phones etc?
>
> Thanks

We've had this ESP Infinite system in for about 2 years now and not a single 
false alarm - and yes, it is working when I test it  :o)

Seriously, it's very good and I'd highly recommend it.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Security_Menu_Index/Wireless_index/ESP_Infinite_Main/index.html

John
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 21:29:30 +0100   author:   John x@y.z

Re: Intruder Alarms   
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Andrew Gabriel" 
Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: Intruder Alarms


> In article ,
> "Fredrick Skoog"  writes:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like the 
>> look
>> of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they are in that are
>> they prone to interference from other wireless devices e.g. mobiles,
>> internet connections, cordless phones etc?
>
> Don't you already have the cabling installed for your current one?
>
> -- 
> Andrew Gabriel
> [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

Yes but to say that it is an untidy bodge job would be an understatement
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 23:42:49 +0100   author:   Fredrick Skoog

Re: Intruder Alarms   
John wrote:
> Fredrick Skoog wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like the
>> look of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they are in
>> that are they prone to interference from other wireless devices e.g.
>> mobiles, internet connections, cordless phones etc?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> We've had this ESP Infinite system in for about 2 years now and not a
> single false alarm - and yes, it is working when I test it  :o)
>
> Seriously, it's very good and I'd highly recommend it.
>
> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Security_Menu_Index/Wireless_index/ESP_Infinite_Main/index.html

Can I ask a couple of questions about that?

It doesn't seem to come with a bell or sounder,  but can be used with an 
existing bell box or a new bell box using ES WSM bell box module.

If you don't have an existing bell box you need the ES WSM and a ES WES bell 
box/sounder?

Have I got that right?  Or would you need either of the items listed under 
the ES WSM?

Do these need a mains power supply?

Also, you can add the smoke/gas/flood detectors, would they trigger the bell 
box/sounder?


-- 
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:11:17 GMT   author:   The Medway Handyman

Re: Intruder Alarms   
The Medway Handyman wrote:
> John wrote:
>> Fredrick Skoog wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like
>>> the look of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they
>>> are in that are they prone to interference from other wireless
>>> devices e.g. mobiles, internet connections, cordless phones etc?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>> We've had this ESP Infinite system in for about 2 years now and not a
>> single false alarm - and yes, it is working when I test it  :o)
>>
>> Seriously, it's very good and I'd highly recommend it.
>>
>> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Security_Menu_Index/Wireless_index/ESP_Infinite_Main/index.html
>
> Can I ask a couple of questions about that?
>
> It doesn't seem to come with a bell or sounder,  but can be used with
> an existing bell box or a new bell box using ES WSM bell box module.
>
> If you don't have an existing bell box you need the ES WSM and a ES
> WES bell box/sounder?
>
> Have I got that right?  Or would you need either of the items listed
> under the ES WSM?

Hmm, no, I don't think you have. We have the ES KIT2 (main panel, PIRs etc) 
and an ES WES, and that combination makes up a complete alarm system. I 
think the ES WSM is to convert an existing wired external sounder to 
wireless operation for use with the KIT2 panel.

> Do these need a mains power supply?

Yes. They are wireless in terms of the signal to/from the alarm panel but, 
although the ES WES has an internal battery, it's only for backup purposes 
when there's a power outage.

> Also, you can add the smoke/gas/flood detectors, would they trigger
> the bell box/sounder?

I would assume so, but don't know for sure as we haven't got any of those.

John
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 17:45:25 +0100   author:   John x@y.z

Re: Intruder Alarms   
John wrote:
> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>> John wrote:
>>> Fredrick Skoog wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like
>>>> the look of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they
>>>> are in that are they prone to interference from other wireless
>>>> devices e.g. mobiles, internet connections, cordless phones etc?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> We've had this ESP Infinite system in for about 2 years now and not
>>> a single false alarm - and yes, it is working when I test it  :o)
>>>
>>> Seriously, it's very good and I'd highly recommend it.
>>>
>>> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Security_Menu_Index/Wireless_index/ESP_Infinite_Main/index.html
>>
>> Can I ask a couple of questions about that?
>>
>> It doesn't seem to come with a bell or sounder,  but can be used with
>> an existing bell box or a new bell box using ES WSM bell box module.
>>
>> If you don't have an existing bell box you need the ES WSM and a ES
>> WES bell box/sounder?
>>
>> Have I got that right?  Or would you need either of the items listed
>> under the ES WSM?
>
> Hmm, no, I don't think you have. We have the ES KIT2 (main panel,
> PIRs etc) and an ES WES, and that combination makes up a complete
> alarm system.

Ah, so the ES WES is a sounder. Not clear on the TLC site - not to me 
anyway.

> I think the ES WSM is to convert an existing wired
> external sounder to wireless operation for use with the KIT2 panel.
>
>> Do these need a mains power supply?
>
> Yes. They are wireless in terms of the signal to/from the alarm panel
> but, although the ES WES has an internal battery, it's only for
> backup purposes when there's a power outage.
>
>> Also, you can add the smoke/gas/flood detectors, would they trigger
>> the bell box/sounder?
>
> I would assume so, but don't know for sure as we haven't got any of
> those.

Thanks



-- 
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 17:21:09 GMT   author:   The Medway Handyman

Re: Intruder Alarms   
The Medway Handyman wrote:
> John wrote:
>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>> John wrote:
>>>> Fredrick Skoog wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like
>>>>> the look of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they
>>>>> are in that are they prone to interference from other wireless
>>>>> devices e.g. mobiles, internet connections, cordless phones etc?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> We've had this ESP Infinite system in for about 2 years now and not
>>>> a single false alarm - and yes, it is working when I test it  :o)
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, it's very good and I'd highly recommend it.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Security_Menu_Index/Wireless_index/ESP_Infinite_Main/index.html
>>>
>>> Can I ask a couple of questions about that?
>>>
>>> It doesn't seem to come with a bell or sounder,  but can be used
>>> with an existing bell box or a new bell box using ES WSM bell box
>>> module. If you don't have an existing bell box you need the ES WSM and a 
>>> ES
>>> WES bell box/sounder?
>>>
>>> Have I got that right?  Or would you need either of the items listed
>>> under the ES WSM?
>>
>> Hmm, no, I don't think you have. We have the ES KIT2 (main panel,
>> PIRs etc) and an ES WES, and that combination makes up a complete
>> alarm system.
>
> Ah, so the ES WES is a sounder. Not clear on the TLC site - not to me
> anyway.
>
>> I think the ES WSM is to convert an existing wired
>> external sounder to wireless operation for use with the KIT2 panel.
>>
>>> Do these need a mains power supply?
>>
>> Yes. They are wireless in terms of the signal to/from the alarm panel
>> but, although the ES WES has an internal battery, it's only for
>> backup purposes when there's a power outage.
>>
>>> Also, you can add the smoke/gas/flood detectors, would they trigger
>>> the bell box/sounder?
>>
>> I would assume so, but don't know for sure as we haven't got any of
>> those.
>
> Thanks

You're welcome  :o)
date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 19:58:11 +0100   author:   John x@y.z

Re: Intruder Alarms   
HI
The latest radio systems are very reliable and battery life is now up to 
3yrs using the provided lithium batteries,interference ,whilst not 
impossible, is IME very rare and with costs coming down radio is a good diy 
alternative to wiring numerous 6core cables into an unknown box.
If however you are cable literate then a good old fashioned hard wired 
system is still the cheepest,most reliable system.

HTH
CJ
date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:49:12 +0100   author:   cj

Re: Intruder Alarms   
On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 20:26:19 +0100, "Fredrick Skoog"
 wrote:


>I'm looking to up-date my very old intruder alarms and quite like the look 
>of a wireless set up. Does anyone know how reliable they are in that are 
>they prone to interference from other wireless devices e.g. mobiles, 
>internet connections, cordless phones etc?

These days the cheaper ones mostly fail silent with interference so
you don't know there is any.

 Unless you have someone prepared to check your house when it goes off
"bells only" systems are not particularly useful.  The police won't
respond to reports of them going off and if you make the mistake of
telling your insurance company you have one it gives an excellent
excuse not to pay out if you need to make a claim and can't prove the
alarm activated.
date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 22:38:51 +0100   author:   Peter Parry

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