I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.

So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the earth
conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?

George wrote:
> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
> 
> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the earth
> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
> 
Should have asked - I'd have popped some in an envelope for you. :-)

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
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"Rod"  wrote in message
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> George wrote:
> > I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre
of
> > earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
> >
> > So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the
earth
> > conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
> >
> Should have asked - I'd have popped some in an envelope for you. :-)
>
> --
> Rod
>
> Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
> onset.
> Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
> <www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

I needed it today. ;-)

I've no doubt that if a cable manufacture was to start putting a sheath on
the earth conductor,sales would rise as to me this is a silly thing to do in
respect to leaving the conductor bare.

George wrote:
> "Rod"  wrote in message
> news:6ebbn0F60ap8U1@mid.individual.net...
>> George wrote:
>>> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre
> of
>>> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>>>
>>> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the
> earth
>>> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>>>
>> Should have asked - I'd have popped some in an envelope for you. :-)
>>
> 
> I needed it today. ;-)
> 
> I've no doubt that if a cable manufacture was to start putting a sheath on
> the earth conductor,sales would rise as to me this is a silly thing to do in
> respect to leaving the conductor bare.
> 
> 
Then you should have asked the day before yesterday. :-)
(Of course, you didn't know you'd need it until...)

That would increase the price and sparks would stick with the cheaper 
non-insulated.

I'd suggest a couple of metres (or whatever might make sense) of 
sleeving stuck to every drum.

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
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The reason the earth is bare inside the cable ,so that any damge to the 
conductor wires will leak to earth.

In message <eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com>, George 
 wrote
>I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>
>So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the earth
>conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>

Why use miles of sleeving when the average punter only needs 4 inches?

-- 
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

"ALex"  wrote in message 
news:VvWdnZrqFdfzGx3VnZ2dnUVZ8vSdnZ2d@bt.com...
> The reason the earth is bare inside the cable ,so that any damge to the 
> conductor wires will leak to earth.
>

So why is it not allowed to leak to earth when the damage is at the end?

S

"George"  wrote in message 
news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.

I bought 100m when I needed 4", my local DIY shop is toolstation and they 
don't do less.
£4.44 but it wasn't worth the time to go elsewhere.

>
> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
> earth
> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?

Cost.
>
>

"dennis@home"  wrote in message 
news:003f22c4$0$32046$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>
>
> "George"  wrote in message 
> news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>
> I bought 100m when I needed 4", my local DIY shop is toolstation and they 
> don't do less.
> £4.44 but it wasn't worth the time to go elsewhere.
>
>>
>> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
>> earth
>> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>
> Cost.
>>
>>

Wilkinson sell it in small amounts, not sure how much you get but it comes 
in a small sealed bag....probably less than 1, worth.

dennis@home wrote:
> 
> 
> "George"  wrote in message 
> news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
> 
> I bought 100m when I needed 4", my local DIY shop is toolstation and 
> they don't do less.
> £4.44 but it wasn't worth the time to go elsewhere.
> 
Pretty much the same here. Kept meaning to offer a few metres of red, 
black, blue, brown and green/yellow in a pack on ebay. But that simply 
never happened.

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

ALex wrote:
> The reason the earth is bare inside the cable ,so that any damge to
> the conductor wires will leak to earth.

An added benefit being that when you run a stanley knife along it to expose 
the cables its not going to damage the insulation on L & N.


-- 
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

George wrote:
> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
> 
> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the earth
> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
> 
> 
cost.

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:02:34 GMT, "George" 
wrote:

>I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>
>So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the earth
>conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>
It's already available as cable as used on appliances.

The ordinary cable is slim, cheap and does the job at the expense of a
few inches of extra sleeving at virtually no cost.

"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message 
news:1216394219.11375.7@proxy01.news.clara.net...
> George wrote:
>> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>>
>> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
>> earth
>> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>>
>>
> cost.

It would also make the overall cable wider.

The trouble is you will lose the left over sleeving and will have to buy 
some more next time you need it!

"The Medway Handyman"  wrote in message
news:_r2gk.29170$E41.11093@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> ALex wrote:
> > The reason the earth is bare inside the cable ,so that any damge to
> > the conductor wires will leak to earth.
>
> An added benefit being that when you run a stanley knife along it to
expose
> the cables its not going to damage the insulation on L & N.
>
>
> --
> Dave - The Medway Handyman
> www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
>
>

You need help ie nick a slice in the grey outer covering, grab the earth
conductor with a pair of pointed nose pliers and pull whilst holding the
outer grey covering.

"George"  wrote in message
>
> You need help ie nick a slice in the grey outer covering, grab the earth
> conductor with a pair of pointed nose pliers and pull whilst holding the
> outer grey covering.
>
>

Hmmm! could explain that a tad better...

Slice/nick the grey outer sheathing about half inch,grab the earth conductor
with a pair of pointed nose pliers,pull the earth conductor towards the nick
and down it whilst holding the grey outer sheath in the other hand.
Pulling of the earth conductor will act as a knife to slice the grey outer
sheathing to the amount of wires that need exposing. ;-)

In article <eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com>,
   George  wrote:
> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.

Very expensive way of buying it. 

> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the
> earth conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?

Cost and size.

A more practical solution would be to include cut lengths with every
socket, etc sold in DIY places.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"George"  wrote in message 
news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>
> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
> earth
> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>
Wher I work we also sell it by the meter, however if someone wants only 4" 
I'm happy to give it for nothing. People appreciate good service and will 
return and spend money on other items.

"George"  wrote in message 
news:BS_fk.29075$E41.10233@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>
> "Rod"  wrote in message
> news:6ebbn0F60ap8U1@mid.individual.net...
>> George wrote:
>> > I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre
> of
>> > earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>> >
>> > So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the
> earth
>> > conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>> >
>> Should have asked - I'd have popped some in an envelope for you. :-)
>>
>> --
>> Rod
>>
>> Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious
>> onset.
>> Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
>> <www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>
>
> I needed it today. ;-)

No. You "wanted" it today. You could have left the CPC bare for a day or two 
and fitted the sleeving later.


> I've no doubt that if a cable manufacture was to start putting a sheath on
> the earth conductor,sales would rise as to me this is a silly thing to do 
> in
> respect to leaving the conductor bare.

Cost. It would never work.

Adam

> A more practical solution would be to include cut lengths with every
> socket, etc sold in DIY places.

Please don't give the nanny state ideas.

"Scabbydug"  wrote in message 
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>
> "George"  wrote in message 
> news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>>
>> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
>> earth
>> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>>
> Wher I work we also sell it by the meter, however if someone wants only 4" 
> I'm happy to give it for nothing. People appreciate good service and will 
> return and spend money on other items.

"Scabbydug"

Hmm, that's interesting:

As a schoolkid there was a fad for making 'scoobydoos': out of what was 
really plastic wire sheathing.
Bet I could still knock up some snazzy green and yellow 'woggles' and key 
fobs from the left over metreage!

Seems, since then the name got pinched to apply to some old cartoon...

S

"Spamlet" <spamlet@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
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>
> "Scabbydug"  wrote in message 
> news:4880d3ce$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>> "George"  wrote in message 
>> news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre 
>>> of
>>> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>>>
>>> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
>>> earth
>>> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>>>
>> Wher I work we also sell it by the meter, however if someone wants only 
>> 4" I'm happy to give it for nothing. People appreciate good service and 
>> will return and spend money on other items.
>
> "Scabbydug"
>
> Hmm, that's interesting:
>
> As a schoolkid there was a fad for making 'scoobydoos': out of what was 
> really plastic wire sheathing.
> Bet I could still knock up some snazzy green and yellow 'woggles' and key 
> fobs from the left over metreage!
>
> Seems, since then the name got pinched to apply to some old cartoon...

In Scotland it means a rather mange ridden dog :0)

Spamlet wrote:

> "Scabbydug"  wrote in message 
> news:4880d3ce$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> 
>>"George"  wrote in message 
>>news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>>>I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>>>earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>>>
>>>So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
>>>earth
>>>conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>>>
>>
>>Wher I work we also sell it by the meter, however if someone wants only 4" 
>>I'm happy to give it for nothing. People appreciate good service and will 
>>return and spend money on other items.
> 
> 
> "Scabbydug"
> 
> Hmm, that's interesting:
> 
> As a schoolkid there was a fad for making 'scoobydoos': out of what was 
> really plastic wire sheathing.
> Bet I could still knock up some snazzy green and yellow 'woggles' and key 
> fobs from the left over metreage!
> 
> Seems, since then the name got pinched to apply to some old cartoon...

They came back in fashion a few years ago (about 5 or 6) the younger 
Scout groups were doing them, making allsorsts with the coloured 
plastic. In fact, I have seen the plastic within the last few weeks, 
because I said to my wife 'are they are coming back in fashion again?'

Dave

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:28:23 UTC, Dave  wrote:

> Spamlet wrote:
> 
> > "Scabbydug"  wrote in message 
> > news:4880d3ce$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> > 
> >>"George"  wrote in message 
> >>news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> >>
> >>>I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
> >>>earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
> >>>
> >>>So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
> >>>earth
> >>>conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
> >>>
> >>
> >>Wher I work we also sell it by the meter, however if someone wants only 4" 
> >>I'm happy to give it for nothing. People appreciate good service and will 
> >>return and spend money on other items.
> > 
> > 
> > "Scabbydug"
> > 
> > Hmm, that's interesting:
> > 
> > As a schoolkid there was a fad for making 'scoobydoos': out of what was 
> > really plastic wire sheathing.
> > Bet I could still knock up some snazzy green and yellow 'woggles' and key 
> > fobs from the left over metreage!
> > 
> > Seems, since then the name got pinched to apply to some old cartoon...
> 
> They came back in fashion a few years ago (about 5 or 6) the younger 
> Scout groups were doing them, making allsorsts with the coloured 
> plastic. In fact, I have seen the plastic within the last few weeks, 
> because I said to my wife 'are they are coming back in fashion again?'

Yes, they were selling them down the pound shop recently.

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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:02:07 +0100 Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
> A more practical solution would be to include cut lengths with every
> socket, etc sold in DIY places.

What when they can charge you 99p for a 1m length (Homebase a while back)

-- 
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Tony Bryer wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:02:07 +0100 Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
> 
>>A more practical solution would be to include cut lengths with every
>>socket, etc sold in DIY places.
> 
> 
> What when they can charge you 99p for a 1m length (Homebase a while back)

I got all  mine from the electricians that came to the school I worked 
at  :-)
I must have a life times supply now.

Dave

In article <hZ5gk.649$WX2.510@newsfe18.ams2>,
   rrh  wrote:
> > A more practical solution would be to include cut lengths with every
> > socket, etc sold in DIY places.

> Please don't give the nanny state ideas. 

Nothing to do with the state.

Plenty of fittings include heat resistant sleeving if needed so why not
earth ones?

-- 
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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
   Tony Bryer  wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:02:07 +0100 Dave Plowman (News) wrote :
> > A more practical solution would be to include cut lengths with every
> > socket, etc sold in DIY places.

> What when they can charge you 99p for a 1m length (Homebase a while back)

Indeed - that's why I buy a drum of it when needed. About every 20 years.
;-)

Even TLC have a high cutting charge if you look at the prices here:-

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Cable_Accessories_Index/Sleeving/index.html

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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
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George wrote:
> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the earth
> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?

Like they have on French cables...?

Owain

Owain wrote:
> George wrote:
>> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the 
>> earth
>> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
> 
> Like they have on French cables...?
>

But isn't French cable radial cable? :-)

-- 
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Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

On 2008-07-19 08:18:59 +0100, Rod  said:

> Owain wrote:
>> George wrote:
>>> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
>>> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>>> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the earth
>>> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>> 
>> Like they have on French cables...?
>> 
> 
> But isn't French cable radial cable? :-)



They popularly use singles plus conduit and bucket loads of flexible 
conduit.   You can get a wide variety of colours including green/yellow 
from the usual places like Casto and Leroy Merlin or less expensively 
from electrical suppliers.

"George"  wrote in message
news:eL_fk.29069$E41.25316@text.news.virginmedia.com...
> I've had to make a trek to the local DIY shop just to purchase a metre of
> earth sleeving which I only want 4" of.
>
> So why don't the cable manufactures implement a green sheething on the
earth
> conductor of electrical cable ie 1.5,2.5 and 6mm cable?
>
>


Sods law is... when you go into the loft and find some earth bonding cable
that the sheath could have been used.

Arrrgh!