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date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:46:42 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
I'm wondering how to deal with the wallpaper that previous tenants
have put up in my living room: on the lower half of the wall, it's
ordinary paper, and on the upper half it's anaglypta, painted with
matt emulsion. A paper border covers the join between them.

I want a plain, painted wall, but I'm dreading stripping the paper.
Even with a steamer, that anaglypta might be difficult.

So is there an alternative to stripping?

I was wondering if a power sander could be used, to sand down the
anaglypta and also the joins and the ridge the paper border makes. The
anaglypta has quite a shallow pattern - about 2mm.

I was also wondering if I could get a type of paint that's so thick,
it could actually disguise the anaglypta, paper edges, etc, and give a
smooth finish.

If there's an easy solution, I'd be very grateful if anyone here can
tell me - I just hate decorating, and have been putting off this chore
for two years!
date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:46:42 -0700 (PDT)   author:   pete

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
"pete"  wrote in message 
news:76579a08-4d8f-464c-abdf-a61a2531f435@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm wondering how to deal with the wallpaper that previous tenants
> have put up in my living room: on the lower half of the wall, it's
> ordinary paper, and on the upper half it's anaglypta, painted with
> matt emulsion. A paper border covers the join between them.
>
> I want a plain, painted wall, but I'm dreading stripping the paper.
> Even with a steamer, that anaglypta might be difficult.
>
> So is there an alternative to stripping?
>
> I was wondering if a power sander could be used, to sand down the
> anaglypta and also the joins and the ridge the paper border makes. The
> anaglypta has quite a shallow pattern - about 2mm.

and you think stripping the wall is bad!?
>
> I was also wondering if I could get a type of paint that's so thick,
> it could actually disguise the anaglypta, paper edges, etc, and give a
> smooth finish.

No

>
> If there's an easy solution, I'd be very grateful if anyone here can
> tell me - I just hate decorating, and have been putting off this chore
> for two years!

Strip, make good, decorate. Stripping shouldn't take long, or decorating. 
Put the effort into making good. First fill and sand, then blind wall with 
cheap white, second fill (+third fill) and then decorate.


-- 
Bob Mannix
(anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not)
date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:25:24 +0100   author:   Bob Mannix

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
On 17 Jul, 11:46, pete  wrote:

> So is there an alternative to stripping?

Stripping with the right tools.

Perf it first with a tortoise-shaped spiked wheel gadget from the DIY
sheds - the single wheel one, not the triple wheel.

Then steam it. Wear silicone oven gloves (cheap, Aldi)

Anaglypta (and heavy, plasticky papers in general) steam strips
beautifully. The steam gets behind it, then the front peels off in big
non-tearing pieces.
date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:31:41 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Andy Dingley

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
pete   wrote:

> I'm wondering how to deal with the wallpaper that previous tenants
> have put up in my living room: on the lower half of the wall, it's
> ordinary paper, and on the upper half it's anaglypta, painted with
> matt emulsion. A paper border covers the join between them.
>
> I want a plain, painted wall, but I'm dreading stripping the paper.
> Even with a steamer, that anaglypta might be difficult.
>
> So is there an alternative to stripping?
>
> I was wondering if a power sander could be used, to sand down the
> anaglypta and also the joins and the ridge the paper border makes. The
> anaglypta has quite a shallow pattern - about 2mm.
>
> I was also wondering if I could get a type of paint that's so thick,
> it could actually disguise the anaglypta, paper edges, etc, and give a
> smooth finish.
>
> If there's an easy solution, I'd be very grateful if anyone here can
> tell me - I just hate decorating, and have been putting off this chore
> for two years!

Have you thought of demoloshing and rebuilding the wall? <g>
-- 
Cheers,
Roger
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date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:36:18 +0100   author:   Roger Mills

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
On Jul 17, 11:46 am, pete  wrote:
> I'm wondering how to deal with the wallpaper that previous tenants
> have put up in my living room: on the lower half of the wall, it's
> ordinary paper, and on the upper half it's anaglypta, painted with
> matt emulsion. A paper border covers the join between them.
>
> I want a plain, painted wall, but I'm dreading stripping the paper.
> Even with a steamer, that anaglypta might be difficult.
>
> So is there an alternative to stripping?
>
> I was wondering if a power sander could be used, to sand down the
> anaglypta and also the joins and the ridge the paper border makes. The
> anaglypta has quite a shallow pattern - about 2mm.
>
> I was also wondering if I could get a type of paint that's so thick,
> it could actually disguise the anaglypta, paper edges, etc, and give a
> smooth finish.
>
> If there's an easy solution, I'd be very grateful if anyone here can
> tell me - I just hate decorating, and have been putting off this chore
> for two years!

A skim of car body filler.

MBQ
date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 07:03:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Man at B&Q

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 17 Jul, 11:46, pete  wrote:
> 
>> So is there an alternative to stripping?
> 
> Stripping with the right tools.
> 
> Perf it first with a tortoise-shaped spiked wheel gadget from the DIY
> sheds - the single wheel one, not the triple wheel.
> 
> Then steam it. Wear silicone oven gloves (cheap, Aldi)
> 
> Anaglypta (and heavy, plasticky papers in general) steam strips
> beautifully. The steam gets behind it, then the front peels off in big
> non-tearing pieces.

You can usually just peel it off by hand once you raise an edge here and 
there. What you're left with can then be soaked with a brush and cold 
water. I don't perforate or steam unless I really have to. Too much like 
hard work
date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:55:19 +0100   author:   stuart noble

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:46:42 -0700 (PDT), pete 
wrote:

You really have no alternative to stripping. For this crap get a
scraper with a long handle on it. You can grip it with both hands and
it makes life easier.
date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:16:41 +0100   author:   EricP

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
pete  wrote:

>I'm wondering how to deal with the wallpaper that previous tenants
>have put up in my living room: on the lower half of the wall, it's
>ordinary paper, and on the upper half it's anaglypta, painted with
>matt emulsion. A paper border covers the join between them.
>
>I want a plain, painted wall, but I'm dreading stripping the paper.
>Even with a steamer, that anaglypta might be difficult.
>
>So is there an alternative to stripping?


No need for an alternative.  The ordinary paper will come off very
easily with a steam stripper.

The anaglypta might be easier than you think too.  Try a small patch
with the steamer.  If that is slow to come off, do another trial:
Score the anaglypta with the point of a scraper, deep enough to score
the paper but not the wall.  Then steam that trial patch and see if it
comes off more easily.

The more modern blown vinyl "anaglypta" are easier to strip.  Just
peel away the blown vinyl layer leaving the thin paper layer still on
the wall.  Then steam (or soak) and strip the paper.  Job done. 

** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:52:04 +0100   author:   Bruce

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
stuart noble wrote:
> Andy Dingley wrote:
>> On 17 Jul, 11:46, pete  wrote:
>>
>>> So is there an alternative to stripping?
>>
>> Stripping with the right tools.
>>
>> Perf it first with a tortoise-shaped spiked wheel gadget from the DIY
>> sheds - the single wheel one, not the triple wheel.
>>
>> Then steam it. Wear silicone oven gloves (cheap, Aldi)
>>
>> Anaglypta (and heavy, plasticky papers in general) steam strips
>> beautifully. The steam gets behind it, then the front peels off in
>> big non-tearing pieces.
>
> You can usually just peel it off by hand once you raise an edge here
> and there. What you're left with can then be soaked with a brush and
> cold water. I don't perforate or steam unless I really have to. Too
> much like hard work

I have to agree with this post.
Cold water is all that is required, and a good squirt of washing up liquid 
mixed in will keep the water on the surface of the paper for longer, making 
it quicker to soak.
date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:06:36 GMT   author:   Phil L

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
"pete"  wrote in message 
news:76579a08-4d8f-464c-abdf-a61a2531f435@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm wondering how to deal with the wallpaper that previous tenants
> have put up in my living room: on the lower half of the wall, it's
> ordinary paper, and on the upper half it's anaglypta, painted with
> matt emulsion. A paper border covers the join between them.
>
> I want a plain, painted wall, but I'm dreading stripping the paper.
> Even with a steamer, that anaglypta might be difficult.
>
> So is there an alternative to stripping?
>
> I was wondering if a power sander could be used, to sand down the
> anaglypta and also the joins and the ridge the paper border makes. The
> anaglypta has quite a shallow pattern - about 2mm.
>
> I was also wondering if I could get a type of paint that's so thick,
> it could actually disguise the anaglypta, paper edges, etc, and give a
> smooth finish.
>
> If there's an easy solution, I'd be very grateful if anyone here can
> tell me - I just hate decorating, and have been putting off this chore
> for two years!

Methods I have used to remove crap paper are-

- Using water + dab of washing up liquid. Score paper using a nail/nail 
poking slightly out a piece of wood wet wall thoroughly. Have cup of tea. 
Wet wall again. Have another cup of tea. Wet wall. Toilet. Wet wall. Scrape 
away paper. This was emulsioned anaglypta and vinyl paper. Obviously you can 
do other DIY work, instead of the cups of tea whilst the paper soak.
- Using wall paper stripper fluid. This works really well on absorbent 
paper, appears to break the paste bonding and paper just peels off in one 
piece.
date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 12:08:18 +0100   author:   Ian_m

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
Ian_m wrote:
> "pete"  wrote in message 
> news:76579a08-4d8f-464c-abdf-a61a2531f435@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> I'm wondering how to deal with the wallpaper that previous tenants
>> have put up in my living room: on the lower half of the wall, it's
>> ordinary paper, and on the upper half it's anaglypta, painted with
>> matt emulsion. A paper border covers the join between them.
>>
>> I want a plain, painted wall, but I'm dreading stripping the paper.
>> Even with a steamer, that anaglypta might be difficult.
>>
>> So is there an alternative to stripping?
>>
>> I was wondering if a power sander could be used, to sand down the
>> anaglypta and also the joins and the ridge the paper border makes. The
>> anaglypta has quite a shallow pattern - about 2mm.
>>
>> I was also wondering if I could get a type of paint that's so thick,
>> it could actually disguise the anaglypta, paper edges, etc, and give a
>> smooth finish.
>>
>> If there's an easy solution, I'd be very grateful if anyone here can
>> tell me - I just hate decorating, and have been putting off this chore
>> for two years!
> 
> Methods I have used to remove crap paper are-
> 
> - Using water + dab of washing up liquid. Score paper using a nail/nail 
> poking slightly out a piece of wood wet wall thoroughly. Have cup of 
> tea. Wet wall again. Have another cup of tea. Wet wall. Toilet. Wet 
> wall. Scrape away paper. This was emulsioned anaglypta and vinyl paper. 
> Obviously you can do other DIY work, instead of the cups of tea whilst 
> the paper soak.
> - Using wall paper stripper fluid. This works really well on absorbent 
> paper, appears to break the paste bonding and paper just peels off in 
> one piece.

I like to remove a 200mm swathe at the top, after which one brush swipe 
along the top edge delivers enough water to soak the next 200mm.
Heavy duty scraper absolutely essential IMO. Turning it over every few 
seconds keeps the blade honed to perfection.
date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:56:25 +0100   author:   stuart noble

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
On 17 Jul, 11:46, pete  wrote:
> I'm wondering how to deal with the wallpaper that previous tenants
> have put up in my living room: on the lower half of the wall, it's
> ordinary paper, and on the upper half it's anaglypta, painted with
> matt emulsion. A paper border covers the join between them.
>
> I want a plain, painted wall, but I'm dreading stripping the paper.
> Even with a steamer, that anaglypta might be difficult.

Why?  Anaglypta's usually easy to strip.  Be grateful it's not
woodchip.  Now that can be a bugger.
date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:06:19 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Will

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
I use this for ridding my walls of acres of woodchip (which happened
to be covering about six layers of paper going back to circa 1905):
http://www.wallwik.co.uk/
Looks gimmicky, but in fact it worked a treat for me.

Cheers!

Martin
date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:27:32 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Martin Pentreath

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
On 18 Jul, 14:27, Martin Pentreath 
wrote:
> I use this for ridding my walls of acres of woodchip (which happened
> to be covering about six layers of paper going back to circa 1905):http://www.wallwik.co.uk/
> Looks gimmicky, but in fact it worked a treat for me.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Martin

PS I notice since I bought mine that they have rather expanded the
range. All I bought were the fabric strips which you soak and which
then stick to the paper and saturate it (which are now thirteen quid).
I bought a paper tiger from my local DIY place which has the toothed
wheels to score the paper, and I think I just used washing-up liquid
to help the water soak the paper better.
date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:39:02 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Martin Pentreath

Re: any alternatives to stripping wallpaper?   
On 18 Jul, 14:39, Martin Pentreath 
wrote:
> On 18 Jul, 14:27, Martin Pentreath 
> wrote:
>
<SNIP>


Just a short note to thank everyone here for taking the trouble to
advise me. I really appreciate it.
date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:52:14 -0700 (PDT)   author:   pete

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