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date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
Broken motor bush.   
Hitachi TR-8 router.
I took apart an old router last night to clean it.
In the process of reassembly I broke one of the motor bushes
i.e. twisted copper wire disconnected from carbon block.
I managed to get it back in because the router was designed to enable
the bushes to be changed from the outside.
I chanced a power up and it ran ok before I quickly switched off.
Is it risky to put the router to work?

Thanks.

Arthur
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Arthur 51

Re: Broken motor bush.   
> Is it risky to put the router to work?


I don't see why it would be, though I am not an electrical expert. My
brushes started playing up on my jig saw recently because they were
worn down so as a temporary measure I shoved a bit of silver foil
under the spring on top of the brush to push the brush down and it
worked a treat untill the new brushes arrived.
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:34:19 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Housemartin

Re: Broken motor bush.   
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT), Arthur 51
 wrote:

>Hitachi TR-8 router.
>I took apart an old router last night to clean it.
>In the process of reassembly I broke one of the motor bushes
>i.e. twisted copper wire disconnected from carbon block.
>I managed to get it back in because the router was designed to enable
>the bushes to be changed from the outside.
>I chanced a power up and it ran ok before I quickly switched off.
>Is it risky to put the router to work?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Arthur
I guess you mean brush and not bush ?
date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:05:47 +0100   author:   unknown

Re: Broken motor bush.   
wrote in message 
news:j5up64hn0g49n4s03uauvmom7s2l2gqmrc@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT), Arthur 51
>  wrote:
>
>>Hitachi TR-8 router.
>>I took apart an old router last night to clean it.
>>In the process of reassembly I broke one of the motor bushes
>>i.e. twisted copper wire disconnected from carbon block.
>>I managed to get it back in because the router was designed to enable
>>the bushes to be changed from the outside.
>>I chanced a power up and it ran ok before I quickly switched off.
>>Is it risky to put the router to work?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>Arthur
> I guess you mean brush and not bush ?
>
>

Errm...excuse me while I finish bushing my hair.

Arthur
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 21:58:20 +0100   author:   Arthur2

Re: Broken motor bush.   
Arthur 51 pretended :
> Hitachi TR-8 router.
> I took apart an old router last night to clean it.
> In the process of reassembly I broke one of the motor bushes
> i.e. twisted copper wire disconnected from carbon block.
> I managed to get it back in because the router was designed to enable
> the bushes to be changed from the outside.
> I chanced a power up and it ran ok before I quickly switched off.
> Is it risky to put the router to work?

Risky to you, no.

Risky as in damage to the motor, yes.

The motor current will have to pass through the spring instead of the 
copper, which is thin steel and will heat up and loose it's 
springiness. That will cause poor contact between brush and commutator, 
promoting commutator arcing damage.

-- 
Regards,
        Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:03:21 +0100   author:   Harry Bloomfield

Re: Broken motor bush.   
"Harry Bloomfield"  wrote in message 
news:mn.1d2b7d8779df5421.86812@NOSPAM.tiscali.co.uk...
> Arthur 51 pretended :
>> Hitachi TR-8 router.
>> I took apart an old router last night to clean it.
>> In the process of reassembly I broke one of the motor bushes
>> i.e. twisted copper wire disconnected from carbon block.
>> I managed to get it back in because the router was designed to enable
>> the bushes to be changed from the outside.
>> I chanced a power up and it ran ok before I quickly switched off.
>> Is it risky to put the router to work?
>
> Risky to you, no.
>
> Risky as in damage to the motor, yes.
>
> The motor current will have to pass through the spring instead of the 
> copper, which is thin steel and will heat up and loose it's springiness. 
> That will cause poor contact between brush and commutator, promoting 
> commutator arcing damage.
>
> -- 

Thanks.
Although I'm 80% sure I managed to keep the copper twist in the hole
at the back of the brush.

Arthur
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 22:09:06 +0100   author:   Arthur2

Re: Broken motor bush.   
Arthur2 wrote:
>  wrote in message 
> news:j5up64hn0g49n4s03uauvmom7s2l2gqmrc@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 06:37:29 -0700 (PDT), Arthur 51
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Hitachi TR-8 router.
>>> I took apart an old router last night to clean it.
>>> In the process of reassembly I broke one of the motor bushes
>>> i.e. twisted copper wire disconnected from carbon block.
>>> I managed to get it back in because the router was designed to enable
>>> the bushes to be changed from the outside.
>>> I chanced a power up and it ran ok before I quickly switched off.
>>> Is it risky to put the router to work?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Arthur
>> I guess you mean brush and not bush ?
>>
>>
> 
> Errm...excuse me while I finish bushing my hair.
> 
Don't you mean brushing her bush?


> Arthur 
> 
> 
>
date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:00:12 +0100   author:   The Natural Philosopher a@b.c

Re: Broken motor bush.   
Harry Bloomfield wrote:
> Arthur 51 pretended :
>> Hitachi TR-8 router.
>> I took apart an old router last night to clean it.
>> In the process of reassembly I broke one of the motor bushes
>> i.e. twisted copper wire disconnected from carbon block.
>> I managed to get it back in because the router was designed to enable
>> the bushes to be changed from the outside.
>> I chanced a power up and it ran ok before I quickly switched off.
>> Is it risky to put the router to work?
> 
> Risky to you, no.
> 
> Risky as in damage to the motor, yes.
> 
> The motor current will have to pass through the spring instead of the 
> copper, which is thin steel and will heat up and loose it's springiness. 

Or even lose it.

> That will cause poor contact between brush and commutator, promoting 
> commutator arcing damage.
>
date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:00:50 +0100   author:   The Natural Philosopher a@b.c

Re: Broken motor bush.   
"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message 
news:1215172851.15396.1@proxy00.news.clara.net...
> Harry Bloomfield wrote:
>> Arthur 51 pretended :
>>> Hitachi TR-8 router.
>>> I took apart an old router last night to clean it.
>>> In the process of reassembly I broke one of the motor bushes
>>> i.e. twisted copper wire disconnected from carbon block.
>>> I managed to get it back in because the router was designed to enable
>>> the bushes to be changed from the outside.
>>> I chanced a power up and it ran ok before I quickly switched off.
>>> Is it risky to put the router to work?
>>
>> Risky to you, no.
>>
>> Risky as in damage to the motor, yes.
>>
>> The motor current will have to pass through the spring instead of the 
>> copper, which is thin steel and will heat up and loose it's springiness.
>
> Or even lose it.
>
>> That will cause poor contact between brush and commutator, promoting 
>> commutator arcing damage.
>>

Just a thought:

I wonder if a stopgap solution might be to whittle a bit of one of those 
thick 'carpenters pencils' to fit the hole.  Next time my old B&D starts 
playing up, I'll have to give it a try.

S
date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 12:53:43 +0100   author:   Spamlet lid

Re: Broken motor bush.   
Is graphite solderable? Anyone know?

cheers,
Pete.
date: Sun, 6 Jul 2008 08:55:26 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Pete C

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