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date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:14:34 +0100,
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DG sealed unit pricing
Hi,
Just been quoted £85+vat / m2 for low-e glass and 133+vat for toughened by a
local glazier in Kent. This is for 12mm air gap, 20mm overall sealed units.
Normal air fill, argon is £5.25+vat extra / m2.
Just wanted to ask, is this wide of the mark or fairly reasonable, before I
go getting half a dozen more quotes?
Is there such a thing as an online supplier, because I'm b***ered if I can
find one with google. Whole windows yes, sealed unit no...
Ta muchly,
Tim
date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 09:14:34 +0100
author: Tim S
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Re: DG sealed unit pricing
Tim S wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Just been quoted £85+vat / m2 for low-e glass and 133+vat for toughened by a
> local glazier in Kent. This is for 12mm air gap, 20mm overall sealed units.
>
> Normal air fill, argon is £5.25+vat extra / m2.
>
> Just wanted to ask, is this wide of the mark or fairly reasonable, before I
> go getting half a dozen more quotes?
Might help if you told us the window size... ;-)
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Cheers,
John.
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date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 11:48:41 +0100
author: John Rumm
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Re: DG sealed unit pricing
John Rumm coughed up some electrons that declared:
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> Might help if you told us the window size... ;-)
>
Ooops - sorry. Got used to m^2 pricing. Actually the first 2 units will be
900x875 mm (re query a couple of weeks back about removing glazing beading)
Having worked out that the thermal efficiency of 12mm gap DG is barely
any worse than any other larger gap types (I checked low-e glass U-values,
with and without argon), I've concluded it's worth saving these frames. If
I can get a sensible price on sealed units, I'm tempted to re-glaze the
lot as it's all done in plain float glass and the surface areas add up to
quite a bit over the house.
The wooden frames need checking and re-coating (it looks like a
preservative/sealer rather than varnish - haven't decided what to use,
frames are hardwood of some sort), so I might as well pop the ali frames
out, tidy them up, stick better locking handles on, check and fix the wood
and re-fit + reglaze. Then that'll be a job done for the next 10 years or
so with minimal senseless wasteage (probably reuse some of the old good DG
units in a shed + summerhouse).
Cheers
Tim
date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:31:29 +0100
author: Tim S
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Re: DG sealed unit pricing
"Tim S" wrote in message
news:486c8a6a$0$78077$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> Hi,
>
> Just been quoted £85+vat / m2 for low-e glass and 133+vat for toughened by
> a
> local glazier in Kent. This is for 12mm air gap, 20mm overall sealed
> units.
>
> Normal air fill, argon is £5.25+vat extra / m2.
>
> Just wanted to ask, is this wide of the mark or fairly reasonable, before
> I
> go getting half a dozen more quotes?
It looks expensive to me, compared with our experience.
Recently we've had a couple of leaded lights of about this size encapsulated
(i.e. glazed on each side and sealed), they were under £40 each. It was
float glss and I don't think they contain argon though. We're very pleased.
>
> Is there such a thing as an online supplier, because I'm b***ered if I can
> find one with google. Whole windows yes, sealed unit no...
We use a local glass supplier, have done for years.
Mary
date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 12:43:55 +0100
author: Mary Fisher
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Re: DG sealed unit pricing
John Rumm wrote:
>Tim S wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just been quoted £85+vat / m2 for low-e glass and 133+vat for toughened by a
>> local glazier in Kent. This is for 12mm air gap, 20mm overall sealed units.
>>
>> Normal air fill, argon is £5.25+vat extra / m2.
>>
>> Just wanted to ask, is this wide of the mark or fairly reasonable, before I
>> go getting half a dozen more quotes?
>
>Might help if you told us the window size... ;-)
All the prices are per square metre -> /m2.
date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 13:22:17 +0100
author: Bruce
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Re: DG sealed unit pricing
In article <486c8a6a$0$78077$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
Tim S writes:
> Hi,
>
> Just been quoted £85+vat / m2 for low-e glass and 133+vat for toughened by a
> local glazier in Kent. This is for 12mm air gap, 20mm overall sealed units.
If the Windows predate Part L (April 2002), you don't need low-e
glass. If the window has multiple panes, you don't want to mix
low-e and normal glass as the low-e will look obviously tinted.
(Of course, you might have low-e in windows predating Part L,
but that wasn't very common).
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Andrew Gabriel
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date: 03 Jul 2008 12:29:08 GMT
author: (Andrew Gabriel)
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Re: DG sealed unit pricing
Andrew Gabriel coughed up some electrons that declared:
> In article <486c8a6a$0$78077$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
> Tim S writes:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Just been quoted £85+vat / m2 for low-e glass and 133+vat for toughened
>> by a local glazier in Kent. This is for 12mm air gap, 20mm overall sealed
>> units.
>
> If the Windows predate Part L (April 2002), you don't need low-e
> glass. If the window has multiple panes, you don't want to mix
> low-e and normal glass as the low-e will look obviously tinted.
> (Of course, you might have low-e in windows predating Part L,
> but that wasn't very common).
>
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for that - had crossed my mind. Then it occured to me that if I were
replacing about 40% of the glazing area per damaged window and that the
rest of the units are probably going to fail in the near future, I might as
well uprate the thermal characteristics, at least in the rooms with the
larger areas of glass.
Cheers
Tim
date: Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:35:01 +0100
author: Tim S
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Re: DG sealed unit pricing
In article <486cd585$0$78092$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk>,
Tim S writes:
> Andrew Gabriel coughed up some electrons that declared:
>> If the Windows predate Part L (April 2002), you don't need low-e
>> glass. If the window has multiple panes, you don't want to mix
>> low-e and normal glass as the low-e will look obviously tinted.
>> (Of course, you might have low-e in windows predating Part L,
>> but that wasn't very common).
>
> Hi Andrew,
>
> Thanks for that - had crossed my mind. Then it occured to me that if I were
> replacing about 40% of the glazing area per damaged window and that the
> rest of the units are probably going to fail in the near future, I might as
> well uprate the thermal characteristics, at least in the rooms with the
> larger areas of glass.
OK, but I would suggest doing some sums. When I did them (admittedly
before current fuel price hikes), low-e was never going to come even
remotely close to paying for itself in any reasonable lifetime of the
window. Just about any other energy saving measure you spend the
extra money on instead is going to be much more effective. And that's
without even allowing for needing the lights on more with low-e glass!
--
Andrew Gabriel
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date: 03 Jul 2008 15:33:36 GMT
author: (Andrew Gabriel)
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