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date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:25:12 +0100,    group: uk.d-i-y        back       
"3-position" switch and light sensor   
I am having an outside light fitted which works on a "turn light on when it 
gets dark" sensor (i.e. NOT a motion sensor).  Now has anyone on the group 
wired such a thing so that the light can be...

- ON (permanently)
- ON when it's dark (so controlled by sensor)
- OFF

Seems like I need either a 3-position switch or the less favoured option of 
two switches working...

- Powered
- Off

- Sensor controlled
- Direct (so "Powered" => ON).

For the moment I'll leave it OFF/sensor controlled but I might later want 
"ON" to be an option.

Thoughts?
Paul DS.
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:25:12 +0100   author:   Paul D.Smith

Re: "3-position" switch and light sensor   
On 30 Jun, 15:25, "Paul D.Smith"  wrote:
> I am having an outside light fitted which works on a "turn light on when it
> gets dark" sensor (i.e. NOT a motion sensor).  Now has anyone on the group
> wired such a thing so that the light can be...
>
> - ON (permanently)
> - ON when it's dark (so controlled by sensor)
> - OFF
>
> Seems like I need either a 3-position switch or the less favoured option of
> two switches working...
>
> - Powered
> - Off
>
> - Sensor controlled
> - Direct (so "Powered" => ON).
>
> For the moment I'll leave it OFF/sensor controlled but I might later want
> "ON" to be an option.
>
> Thoughts?
> Paul DS.

Has the cabling been installed between the switch position and the
light fitting yet. If so how many cores does it have? Also, to where
is the power from the dis board cabled?
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:43:32 -0700 (PDT)   author:   1501

Re: "3-position" switch and light sensor   
"Paul D.Smith"  wrote in message 
news:1214835980.3483.0@proxy01.news.clara.net...
>I am having an outside light fitted which works on a "turn light on when it 
>gets dark" sensor (i.e. NOT a motion sensor).  Now has anyone on the group 
>wired such a thing so that the light can be...
>
> - ON (permanently)
> - ON when it's dark (so controlled by sensor)
> - OFF
>
> Seems like I need either a 3-position switch or the less favoured option 
> of two switches working...
>
> - Powered
> - Off
>
> - Sensor controlled
> - Direct (so "Powered" => ON).
>
> For the moment I'll leave it OFF/sensor controlled but I might later want 
> "ON" to be an option.
>
> Thoughts?
> Paul DS.

Never wired up an exterior  light with a photocell, done plenty with PIR's 
though.  Does the light have a manual overside feature where if power is 
disconnected then re-connected (by means of a switch) it enters manual 
overide mode and the light comes on?  If so, only need one switch.
I installed a PIR security light, taking the feed from the lighting circuit 
(electric shaver cable specificaly).  Took the spur to a separate FCU, then 
onto the light.  A quick flick off / on from the FCU and the light enters 
manual overide mode and comes on.
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:50:31 +0100   author:   Slider

Re: "3-position" switch and light sensor   
> Never wired up an exterior  light with a photocell, done plenty with PIR's 
> though.  Does the light have a manual overside feature where if power is 
> disconnected then re-connected (by means of a switch) it enters manual 
> overide mode and the light comes on?  If so, only need one switch.
> I installed a PIR security light, taking the feed from the lighting 
> circuit (electric shaver cable specificaly).  Took the spur to a separate 
> FCU, then onto the light.  A quick flick off / on from the FCU and the 
> light enters manual overide mode and comes on.

Good point.  Off to find the instructions in case it does ;-).

Paul DS.
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:29:18 +0100   author:   Paul D.Smith

Re: "3-position" switch and light sensor   
"Paul D.Smith"  wrote in message 
news:1214835980.3483.0@proxy01.news.clara.net...
>I am having an outside light fitted which works on a "turn light on when it 
>gets dark" sensor (i.e. NOT a motion sensor).  Now has anyone on the group 
>wired such a thing so that the light can be...
>
> - ON (permanently)
> - ON when it's dark (so controlled by sensor)
> - OFF
>
> Seems like I need either a 3-position switch or the less favoured option 
> of two switches working...
>
> - Powered
> - Off
>
> - Sensor controlled
> - Direct (so "Powered" => ON).
>
> For the moment I'll leave it OFF/sensor controlled but I might later want 
> "ON" to be an option.

Most PIR/sensor lights nowadays uses 3 "flicks" of power to cycle between 
PIR mode and always on.

My one (http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/GLFIN710.html) does this.

Flick power switch 3 times and is a normal on/off via switch light.

Flick power another 3 times then behaves as a PIR light.
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:33:09 +0100   author:   Ian_m

Re: "3-position" switch and light sensor   
Paul D.Smith wrote:

> Now has anyone on the group wired such a thing so that the light can
> be...
> - ON (permanently)
> - ON when it's dark (so controlled by sensor)
> - OFF

Yes.

> Seems like I need either a 3-position switch [...]
> Thoughts?

It's easy with one of these:
http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MKK4899.html

-- 
Andy
date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:03:33 +0100   author:   Andy Wade

Re: "3-position" switch and light sensor   
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> Seems like I need either a 3-position switch [...]
>> Thoughts?
> 
> It's easy with one of these:
> http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MKK4899.html
> 
> -- 
> Andy

That's the sort of thing!

Thanks,
Paul DS.
date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:36:58 +0100   author:   Paul D.Smith

Re: "3-position" switch and light sensor   
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:03:33 +0100 someone who may be Andy Wade
 wrote this:-

>It's easy with one of these:
>http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/MKK4899.html

Provided that there is a three core and earth cable between switch
and fitting, or one can easily be installed. Also that there is a
suitable place to connect the wire which bypasses the photocell.



-- 
  David Hansen, Edinburgh 
 I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
 http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54
date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:32:50 +0100   author:   David Hansen

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