I've just installed Live Mail on my PC so that I can continue to access 
Hotmail using a mail client (not that I use Hotmail very often, anyway!)

It's kindly imported all my accounts - including my news accounts from OE - 
but I haven't tried using it for news.

Have any of you tried it - and does it overcome any of the limitations of 
OE? [I use Quotefix with OE, anyway - which makes it a lot better behaved]. 
If it did what OE+Quotefix does all on its own without needing an add-on it 
might just be worthwhile.

The blurb which told me I could no longer use OE for Hotmail also said 
something about being able to send SMS messages to mobiles from Live Mail - 
but when you try to do it, you apparently need to install some more bits and 
pieces - and it's almost certainly not free to use. Anyone know how much it 
costs to send an SMS to a UK-based mobile?
-- 
Cheers,
Roger
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"Roger Mills"  wrote in message 
news:6cq34mF3gkh69U1@mid.individual.net...
> I've just installed Live Mail on my PC so that I can continue to access 
> Hotmail using a mail client (not that I use Hotmail very often, anyway!)
>
> It's kindly imported all my accounts - including my news accounts from 
> OE - but I haven't tried using it for news.
>
> Have any of you tried it - and does it overcome any of the limitations of 
> OE? [I use Quotefix with OE, anyway - which makes it a lot better 
> behaved]. If it did what OE+Quotefix does all on its own without needing 
> an add-on it might just be worthwhile.
>
> The blurb which told me I could no longer use OE for Hotmail also said 
> something about being able to send SMS messages to mobiles from Live 
> Mail - but when you try to do it, you apparently need to install some more 
> bits and pieces - and it's almost certainly not free to use. Anyone know 
> how much it costs to send an SMS to a UK-based mobile?
> -- 


I'm using it, through free tera news, coz I'm a couple of time-zones east of 
you. It works fine for news, adding servers and e-mail accounts is easier 
than OE, it has the old OE quirks of ignoring the 'download 300 headers' 
setting, in fact it seems to be OE rebadged with a slightly different 
appearance. selecting 'show menu' reveals an identical menu structure to OE 
for tools-options.  It appears more stable, but I frequently get a message 
blaming another application for corrupting the news database, but recovery 
was successful each time. Replying to a newsgroup puts the cursor at the 
bottom of the quoted message (hurrah).
As for sending SMS, you need to setup a fone to use with this service, and 
messages cost the same, it's just easier (for me anyway!) than two thumbs 
text input into the fone.
Good points: With multiple e-mail accounts it gives a summary of all e-mails 
received for all accounts with a single click access without needing to open 
each account individually. Adding an e-mail account with any of the popular 
providers automatically configures pop and smtp servers etc. The Windows 
Live bit handles log-in to MSN as well, if you use it. It handles RSS feeds 
and podcasts too.

I've no real complaints after 3 months with it.

HTH


-- 
Keith 

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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Keith   wrote:

> "Roger Mills"  wrote in message
> news:6cq34mF3gkh69U1@mid.individual.net...
>> I've just installed Live Mail on my PC so that I can continue to
>> access Hotmail using a mail client (not that I use Hotmail very
>> often, anyway!) It's kindly imported all my accounts - including my news 
>> accounts
>> from OE - but I haven't tried using it for news.
>>
>> Have any of you tried it - and does it overcome any of the
>> limitations of OE? [I use Quotefix with OE, anyway - which makes it
>> a lot better behaved]. If it did what OE+Quotefix does all on its
>> own without needing an add-on it might just be worthwhile.
>>
>> The blurb which told me I could no longer use OE for Hotmail also
>> said something about being able to send SMS messages to mobiles from
>> Live Mail - but when you try to do it, you apparently need to install
>> some more bits and pieces - and it's almost certainly not free to
>> use. Anyone know how much it costs to send an SMS to a UK-based
>> mobile? --
>
>
> I'm using it, through free tera news, coz I'm a couple of time-zones
> east of you. It works fine for news, adding servers and e-mail
> accounts is easier than OE, it has the old OE quirks of ignoring the
> 'download 300 headers' setting, in fact it seems to be OE rebadged
> with a slightly different appearance. selecting 'show menu' reveals
> an identical menu structure to OE for tools-options.  It appears more
> stable, but I frequently get a message blaming another application
> for corrupting the news database, but recovery was successful each
> time. Replying to a newsgroup puts the cursor at the bottom of the
> quoted message (hurrah). As for sending SMS, you need to setup a fone to 
> use with this
> service, and messages cost the same, it's just easier (for me
> anyway!) than two thumbs text input into the fone.
> Good points: With multiple e-mail accounts it gives a summary of all
> e-mails received for all accounts with a single click access without
> needing to open each account individually. Adding an e-mail account
> with any of the popular providers automatically configures pop and
> smtp servers etc. The Windows Live bit handles log-in to MSN as well,
> if you use it. It handles RSS feeds and podcasts too.
>
> I've no real complaints after 3 months with it.
>
> HTH

Thanks - that's useful.

Could you please elaborate a bit more about sending SMS messages to mobiles. 
When you say you have to set up a phone - do you mean your own phone, from 
which the texts will then appear to come? How do you actually pay for 
sending texts - do you pay MS (which presumably means buying credits in 
advance) or do you pay your normal mobile phone operator?

Coming back to the emailing side, it seems to have a facility for sending 
embedded photos as thumbnails, with the actual photos being on an MS server 
(allegedly for 30 days). Have you used this? I've received a couple of such 
emails (into my ordinary email account, accessed via Outlook - not OE or 
Live Mail) and they say that Live Mail users can download all the photos at 
one go. However, when I forwarded one of these to my Hotmail accounts and 
accessed it in Live Mail, it said the photos were no longer on the server 
when I tried to download them in one go - even though the original email was 
only sent a couple of days ago, and even though I could still download them 
one at a time. Any comments?
-- 
Cheers,
Roger
______
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"Roger Mills"  wrote in message 
news:6cq9r4F3cheg9U1@mid.individual.net...
> In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
> Keith   wrote:
>
>> "Roger Mills"  wrote in message
>> news:6cq34mF3gkh69U1@mid.individual.net...
>>> I've just installed Live Mail on my PC so that I can continue to
>>> access Hotmail using a mail client (not that I use Hotmail very
>>> often, anyway!) It's kindly imported all my accounts - including my news 
>>> accounts
>>> from OE - but I haven't tried using it for news.
>>>
>>> Have any of you tried it - and does it overcome any of the
>>> limitations of OE? [I
>>
>> I've no real complaints after 3 months with it.
>>
>> HTH
>
> Thanks - that's useful.
>
> Could you please elaborate a bit more about sending SMS messages to 
> mobiles. When you say you have to set up a phone - do you mean your own 
> phone, from which the texts will then appear to come? How do you actually 
> pay for sending texts - do you pay MS (which presumably means buying 
> credits in advance) or do you pay your normal mobile phone operator?
>

There's no extra charge for using the service, credit your phone as usual, 
the charges for texts are taken from your phone as usual, the texts appear 
to have come from your own phone as usual, the only requirement is to 
register the phone number with Windows Live beforehand.


> Coming back to the emailing side, it seems to have a facility for sending 
> embedded photos as thumbnails, with the actual photos being on an MS 
> server (allegedly for 30 days). Have you used this?

Yes, regularly. Hotmail has an outgoing mail size limit, the 'photo-mail' 
feature means I can send thumbnails, keeping the outgoing mail below limits, 
but the recipient just clicks the thumbnail to access the full size picture 
from the live mail server. This works well, with the 30 day limitation.


I've received a couple of such
> emails (into my ordinary email account, accessed via Outlook - not OE or 
> Live Mail) and they say that Live Mail users can download all the photos 
> at one go. However, when I forwarded one of these to my Hotmail accounts 
> and accessed it in Live Mail, it said the photos were no longer on the 
> server when I tried to download them in one go - even though the original 
> email was only sent a couple of days ago, and even though I could still 
> download them one at a time. Any comments?

Not sure, perhaps a live-mail specific link was stripped out of the message 
by Outlook when you forwarded the mail.

> -- 
> Cheers,

No problem


-- 
Keith 

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