Bought some 15mm compression elbows from my local plumbing bits supplier. 
Normally buy from Wickes as they are much cheaper.

I've found them much harder to do up, they seem to take a lot more force to 
achieve a leak free joint and they 'squeak' as you do them up.

My normal practice is to hold the elbow with Mole grips whilst doing the nut 
up, to avoid stressing the other side of the joint, but these take so much 
force the Mole grips are slipping.

How do others hold elbows whilst doing up fittings?  Moles seem the obvious 
choice to me?


-- 
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

The Medway Handyman wrote:
> Bought some 15mm compression elbows from my local plumbing bits supplier. 
> Normally buy from Wickes as they are much cheaper.
> 
> I've found them much harder to do up, they seem to take a lot more force to 
> achieve a leak free joint and they 'squeak' as you do them up.
> 
> My normal practice is to hold the elbow with Mole grips whilst doing the nut 
> up, to avoid stressing the other side of the joint, but these take so much 
> force the Mole grips are slipping.
> 
> How do others hold elbows whilst doing up fittings?  Moles seem the obvious 
> choice to me?
> 
> 
Suggest you try different olives - soft copper ones are usually easier 
to do up. Funny how some apparently identical brass ones are much harder 
than others.

Try tightening up the fitting without the olive (or the pipe!). This 
would help to ensure the threads are clean.

I usually use one or more of a) adjustable wrench (Bahco!); b) Stilsons; 
c) fixed spanner; d) water pump pliers.

-- 
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Rod wrote:
> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>> Bought some 15mm compression elbows from my local plumbing bits 
>> supplier. Normally buy from Wickes as they are much cheaper.
>>
>> I've found them much harder to do up, they seem to take a lot more 
>> force to achieve a leak free joint and they 'squeak' as you do them up.
>>
>> My normal practice is to hold the elbow with Mole grips whilst doing 
>> the nut up, to avoid stressing the other side of the joint, but these 
>> take so much force the Mole grips are slipping.
>>
>> How do others hold elbows whilst doing up fittings?  Moles seem the 
>> obvious choice to me?
>>
>>
> Suggest you try different olives - soft copper ones are usually easier 
> to do up. Funny how some apparently identical brass ones are much harder 
> than others.
> 
> Try tightening up the fitting without the olive (or the pipe!). This 
> would help to ensure the threads are clean.
> 
> I usually use one or more of a) adjustable wrench (Bahco!); b) Stilsons; 
> c) fixed spanner; d) water pump pliers.
> 
I always grease the threads and the olives on compression fittings. Much 
easier to tighten and no screeching. Also most of the elbows I use have 
a pair of flats cast in on the corner. Just right for an open ended 
spanner and save risking marks from mole grips.

Bob

On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:16:57 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
 wrote:

>Bought some 15mm compression elbows from my local plumbing bits supplier. 
>Normally buy from Wickes as they are much cheaper.
>
>I've found them much harder to do up, they seem to take a lot more force to 
>achieve a leak free joint and they 'squeak' as you do them up.
>
>My normal practice is to hold the elbow with Mole grips whilst doing the nut 
>up, to avoid stressing the other side of the joint, but these take so much 
>force the Mole grips are slipping.
>
>How do others hold elbows whilst doing up fittings?  Moles seem the obvious 
>choice to me?

Lubricate the thread and olive with mait. Use a mole on the body of
the fitting and a spanner on the nut.

Works for me with no noise and control of the tightening.