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date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:41:15 +0100,    group: uk.food+drink.real-ale        back       
North Yorkshire   
Anyone know of any small towns / villages to the north west of Skipton (eg. 
Settle) that have more than just one decent real ale pub?

I realise that many towns will have more than one pub, but many of them have 
just one listed as having decent real ale.

Thnkaing of combining walking & drinking...as you do ;-)

Cheers
Mark
date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:41:15 +0100   author:   Mark

Re: North Yorkshire   
Mark wrote:
> Anyone know of any small towns / villages to the north west of Skipton (eg. 
> Settle) that have more than just one decent real ale pub?

Hawes, Leyburn, and Askrigg come to mind. (Do they
fit geographically??)
date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:45:37 -0400   author:   cciaffone

Re: North Yorkshire   
I think you might struggle a bit there.  Settle in particular has always had 
a reputation for not being very good for decent real ale.  A lot of the pubs 
have the theakston/black sheep combination though Copper Dragon is 
spreading.

Keighley and Craven Camra cover the area and they have a guide available for 
£2.00

at

 http://www.keighleyandcravencamra.org.uk/campaigning/guides.shtml#dales_ale


You can also buy (probably more efficiently)  it from Beer Inn Print at

http://beerinnprint.co.uk/description.php?prodid=1582
date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:22:23 +0100   author:   Paul Rigg

Re: North Yorkshire   
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:22:23 +0100, "Paul Rigg"
 wrote:

>
>
>I think you might struggle a bit there. 

Nonsense! There are loads of pubs NorthWest of Skipton. For starters
the Kly and Craven Camra's Pub of the Year, The Maypole at Long
Preston, The Marton Arms near Ingleton (15 handpumps) the New Inn at
Clapham and so many more. You certainly will not struggle to find good
ale in this area. 
>

>You can also buy (probably more efficiently)  it from Beer Inn Print
>
Why "probably more efficiently"?  What is your evidence for saying
this?  
>
>
>
>
date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 20:38:09 +0100   author:   M Platting

Re: North Yorkshire   
>
> Nonsense! There are loads of pubs NorthWest of Skipton. For starters
> the Kly and Craven Camra's Pub of the Year, The Maypole at Long
> Preston, The Marton Arms near Ingleton (15 handpumps) the New Inn at
> Clapham and so many more. You certainly will not struggle to find good
> ale in this area.
>>
>
I answered the question.

The op asked for a town with more than one decent real ale pub in that area. 
I don't know of one  (excluding Skipton itself which the op inferred he 
wished to exclude).

I know all these pubs exist - I've been in all of them but they are the only 
decent real ale pubs in the villages/towns in which they are situated.

You have not mentioned a town with more than one decent real ale pub either!

And I know Mr "Beer Inn Print" Travis personally, he is a near neighbour to 
me and he is very efficient.
>>
>>
>
date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:04:20 +0100   author:   Paul Rigg

Re: North Yorkshire   
"cciaffone"  wrote in message 
news:h5eg7r$28t$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Mark wrote:
>> Anyone know of any small towns / villages to the north west of Skipton 
>> (eg. Settle) that have more than just one decent real ale pub?
>
> Hawes, Leyburn, and Askrigg come to mind. (Do they
> fit geographically??)

Not quite. Been walking that way recently and wanted to try the other side.

Cheers anyway
date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:01:06 +0100   author:   Mark

Re: North Yorkshire   
"Paul Rigg"  wrote in message 
news:ormdna8D2IahaOfXnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
> I think you might struggle a bit there.  Settle in particular has always 
> had a reputation for not being very good for decent real ale.  A lot of 
> the pubs have the theakston/black sheep combination though Copper Dragon 
> is spreading.
>
> Keighley and Craven Camra cover the area and they have a guide available 
> for £2.00
>
> at
>
> http://www.keighleyandcravencamra.org.uk/campaigning/guides.shtml#dales_ale
>
>
> You can also buy (probably more efficiently)  it from Beer Inn Print at
>
> http://beerinnprint.co.uk/description.php?prodid=1582
>
>
>
>
>

Ordered.....(& pendle guide..& cumbra guide..)

Only looked at the address for beerinprint after ordering. Wonder if he 
allows personal callers?
Good excuse to go to the Fox & Goose ;-)

Cheers
Mark
date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:03:49 +0100   author:   Mark

Re: North Yorkshire   
On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 11:04:20 +0100, "Paul Rigg"
 wrote:



>The op asked for a town with more than one decent real ale pub in that area. 
>I don't know of one  (excluding Skipton itself which the op inferred he 
>wished to exclude).

Well there two real ale pubs in Long Preston, two (possibly more) in
Gargrave, a lot of decent pubs in Settle and Giggleswick (and it's not
all Thwaites and Youngers as it used to be!), Kirkby Lonsdale is
spoilt for choice with Copper Dragon, Robinsons, Jennings and of
course the newly opened Kirkby Lonsdale Brewery all available.
Ingleton has at least four pubs worth visiting. 
 
>I know all these pubs exist - I've been in all of them but they are the only 
>decent real ale pubs in the villages/towns in which they are situated.

No they're not (although 'decent' is a bit subjective). There are
others serving a variety of quality real ales (my usual interpretation
of 'decent'). Additionally, small villages, almost by definition, are
unlikely to have more than one pub.
>
>You have not mentioned a town with more than one decent real ale pub either!

I refer you to my coments above, which hopefully redresses the
balance. 
>
>And I know Mr "Beer Inn Print" Travis personally, he is a near neighbour to 
>me and he is very efficient.
>>>
Yes, I know Paul Travis too,  but on what basis do you think Keighley
and Craven CAMRA might be worse? I'll speak to Fred Baker on this one.
Don't know when you last did a Craven area crawl Mr Rigg, but the
situation has dramatically improved over the last two or so years.
date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:19:50 +0100   author:   M Platting

Re: North Yorkshire   
"Mark"  wrote in message 
news:4a7c421a$0$2492$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>
> "Paul Rigg"  wrote in message 
> news:ormdna8D2IahaOfXnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>
>> I think you might struggle a bit there.  Settle in particular has always 
>> had a reputation for not being very good for decent real ale.  A lot of 
>> the pubs have the theakston/black sheep combination though Copper Dragon 
>> is spreading.
>>
>> Keighley and Craven Camra cover the area and they have a guide available 
>> for £2.00
>>
>> at
>>
>> http://www.keighleyandcravencamra.org.uk/campaigning/guides.shtml#dales_ale
>>
>>
>> You can also buy (probably more efficiently)  it from Beer Inn Print at
>>
>> http://beerinnprint.co.uk/description.php?prodid=1582
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Ordered.....(& pendle guide..& cumbra guide..)
>
> Only looked at the address for beerinprint after ordering. Wonder if he 
> allows personal callers?
> Good excuse to go to the Fox & Goose ;-)
>
> Probably not the Fox & Goose

You could probably be met at Moyles with it, or collect it from the Little 
Valley visitor centre.

> Mark
>
date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:25:00 +0100   author:   Paul Rigg

Re: North Yorkshire   
>>And I know Mr "Beer Inn Print" Travis personally, he is a near neighbour 
>>to
>>me and he is very efficient.
>>>>
> Yes, I know Paul Travis too,  but on what basis do you think Keighley
> and Craven CAMRA might be worse? I'll speak to Fred Baker on this one.
> Don't know when you last did a Craven area crawl Mr Rigg, but the
> situation has dramatically improved over the last two or so years.
>

I think the Keighley Camra link points you to Camra books not particularly a 
direct order from the branch. My experience of Camra books is that Paul is 
better.  Though that said I can get Alex to deliver it!

It is only my opinion as is the one about the pubs.  I can only comment as I 
have found in the past.
I accept that the situation may have changed - I did say that Copper Dragon 
were making inroads up there.  Though they got the station at Ribblehead and 
then left again.  Not sure why.
date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:34:54 +0100   author:   Paul Rigg

Re: North Yorkshire   
Mark wrote:
> "cciaffone"  wrote in message 
> news:h5eg7r$28t$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Mark wrote:
>>> Anyone know of any small towns / villages to the north west of Skipton 
>>> (eg. Settle) that have more than just one decent real ale pub?
>> Hawes, Leyburn, and Askrigg come to mind. (Do they
>> fit geographically??)
> 
> Not quite. Been walking that way recently and wanted to try the other side.
> 

Now just west of Hawes, near a RR station, is a pub that used to be
a brew-pub but the brewer sold the pub but continues to supply it.
Nice brew as I remember it.

West of that you get the Dent Brewery --T'Owd Tup is one of my
very favorites. Then you are into Lancs, I think.
date: Fri, 07 Aug 2009 16:03:38 -0400   author:   cciaffone

Re: North Yorkshire   
cciaffone wrote:
> Mark wrote:
>> "cciaffone"  wrote in message 
>> news:h5eg7r$28t$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Mark wrote:
>>>> Anyone know of any small towns / villages to the north west of 
>>>> Skipton (eg. Settle) that have more than just one decent real ale pub?
>>> Hawes, Leyburn, and Askrigg come to mind. (Do they
>>> fit geographically??)
>>
>> Not quite. Been walking that way recently and wanted to try the other 
>> side.
>>
> 
> Now just west of Hawes, near a RR station, is a pub that used to be
> a brew-pub but the brewer sold the pub but continues to supply it.
> Nice brew as I remember it.
> 
> West of that you get the Dent Brewery --T'Owd Tup is one of my
> very favorites. Then you are into Lancs, I think.

There are two pubs in Dent, which was transferred from Yorkshire to 
Cumbria in a "land grab" in 1974. Both sell several real ales in good 
condition. The George and Dragon is the Dent Brewery tap, and the Sun is 
just across the road. Both do accommodation. That at the G&D is "good 
but pricey", and that at the Sun is "cheap and cheerful".

-- 
Brian
date: Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:19:37 +0100   author:   BrianW

Re: North Yorkshire   
"Mark"  wrote in message 
news:4a7ac14f$0$2540$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Anyone know of any small towns / villages to the north west of Skipton 
> (eg. Settle) that have more than just one decent real ale pub?
>
> I realise that many towns will have more than one pub, but many of them 
> have just one listed as having decent real ale.
>
> Thnkaing of combining walking & drinking...as you do ;-)

Have you thought of walking around a large town or city?

Ken Ward
date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:12:58 +0100   author:   Ken Ward

Re: North Yorkshire   
> Now just west of Hawes, near a RR station, is a pub that used to be
> a brew-pub but the brewer sold the pub but continues to supply it.
> Nice brew as I remember it.
>
You are on about the Moorcock at Garsdale.  Its about 3/4 mile north (or 
East) of the station, which is on the Settle-Carlisle Line.

Well worth a visit - interesting decor.

There is a connecting minibus from Garsdale to Hawes which will drop you off 
at the pub if asked, though it does not connect with all trains.
date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:08:18 +0100   author:   Paul Rigg

Re: North Yorkshire   
Paul Rigg wrote:
> 
> 
>> Now just west of Hawes, near a RR station, is a pub that used to be
>> a brew-pub but the brewer sold the pub but continues to supply it.
>> Nice brew as I remember it.
>>
> You are on about the Moorcock at Garsdale.  Its about 3/4 mile north (or 
> East) of the station, which is on the Settle-Carlisle Line.
> 
> Well worth a visit - interesting decor.
> 
> There is a connecting minibus from Garsdale to Hawes which will drop you 
> off at the pub if asked, though it does not connect with all trains.
> 
> 
> 
Yep, that's the pub. Does the original brewer continue
to supply the ales??? Good stuff.
date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:29:28 -0400   author:   cciaffone

Re: North Yorkshire   
"Ken Ward"  wrote in message 
news:MRHfm.111488$zh1.44437@newsfe04.ams2...
>
> "Mark"  wrote in message 
> news:4a7ac14f$0$2540$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
>> Anyone know of any small towns / villages to the north west of Skipton 
>> (eg. Settle) that have more than just one decent real ale pub?
>>
>> I realise that many towns will have more than one pub, but many of them 
>> have just one listed as having decent real ale.
>>
>> Thnkaing of combining walking & drinking...as you do ;-)
>
> Have you thought of walking around a large town or city?
>
> Ken Ward
>
>

Many times. Done that, got the Tshirt etc etc etc.

Just fancy the NW dales & fresh air this time

Cheers
Mark
date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 16:28:58 +0100   author:   Mark

Re: North Yorkshire   
Thanks for the suggestions.

Ended up in Ingletn eventually because of walking distance to Marton Arms 
and the Ingleton Falls.

All the 4 pubs in Ingleton had a couple of casks on and all well kept but 
obviously some of them catered for the 'younger' audience we had to put up 
with a bit of karaoke at one point....

Disappointed with the Wheatsheaf. 6 pumps but only 2 beers on (& no more 
planned either).

Also v disappointed at the prices. I know it's a bit of a captive audience 
but to charge from £2.50 to £3.30 a pint in the Marton Arms is bloody 
daylight robbery. (Considering the prices in my local Huddersfield pubs)

Cheers
Mark


"Mark"  wrote in message 
news:4a7ac14f$0$2540$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Anyone know of any small towns / villages to the north west of Skipton 
> (eg. Settle) that have more than just one decent real ale pub?
>
> I realise that many towns will have more than one pub, but many of them 
> have just one listed as having decent real ale.
>
> Thnkaing of combining walking & drinking...as you do ;-)
>
> Cheers
> Mark
>
date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:45:32 +0100   author:   Mark

Re: North Yorkshire   
Mark wrote:

> Also v disappointed at the prices. I know it's a bit of a captive audience 
> but to charge from £2.50 to £3.30 a pint in the Marton Arms is bloody 
> daylight robbery. (Considering the prices in my local Huddersfield pubs)

Oh now that's strange. You actually LEFT Huddersfield looking for
real ales??  You coulda hiked to any number of great pubs right
there. Or at best, walked up the valley to Holmfirth where, I
believe, the Nook is now a-brewing their own. A long way around
to get back to what ya left!
date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:55:43 -0400   author:   cciaffone

Re: North Yorkshire   
In article <h6bui1$3mp$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
   cciaffone  wrote:

> Oh now that's strange. You actually LEFT Huddersfield looking for
> real ales??  

I thought that, too!!

-- 
Chris de Cordova (West Cumbria & Western Lakes) www.westcumbriacamra.org.uk
Whitehaven Beer Festival: 20th & 21st Nov 2009 (www.whitehavenbeerfestival.co.uk)
www.cumbrianbreweries.org.uk for good craic on our beers!

When I'm not in my right mind, my left mind gets pretty crowded.
date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:34:12 +0100   author:   Chris

Re: North Yorkshire   
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 11:55:43 -0400, cciaffone 
wrote:

>Mark wrote:

>
>Oh now that's strange. You actually LEFT Huddersfield looking for
>real ales??  You coulda hiked to any number of great pubs right
>there. Or at best, walked up the valley to Holmfirth where, I
>believe, the Nook is now a-brewing their own.

...and are having a beer festival  at the end of August -40 beer
including their own brews.
http://www.thenookholmfirth.co.uk/special.htm
date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:00:45 +0100   author:   M Platting

Re: North Yorkshire   
>>
>>Oh now that's strange. You actually LEFT Huddersfield looking for
>>real ales??  You coulda hiked to any number of great pubs right
>>there. Or at best, walked up the valley to Holmfirth where, I
>>believe, the Nook is now a-brewing their own.
>
> ...and are having a beer festival  at the end of August -40 beer
> including their own brews.
> http://www.thenookholmfirth.co.uk/special.htm

...while in Huddersfield itself, the Sportsman are holding a Mallinson's 
beer festival 29-31 August, featuring 10 Mallinson beers plus the usual 
range.
date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:20:22 +0100   author:   Paul pdixey@free_nospam)netname.co.uk

Re: North Yorkshire   
"cciaffone"  wrote in message 
news:h6bui1$3mp$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Mark wrote:
>
>> Also v disappointed at the prices. I know it's a bit of a captive 
>> audience but to charge from £2.50 to £3.30 a pint in the Marton Arms is 
>> bloody daylight robbery. (Considering the prices in my local Huddersfield 
>> pubs)
>
> Oh now that's strange. You actually LEFT Huddersfield looking for
> real ales??  You coulda hiked to any number of great pubs right
> there. Or at best, walked up the valley to Holmfirth where, I
> believe, the Nook is now a-brewing their own. A long way around
> to get back to what ya left!

Indeed but it's nice to get out for a change of scenery (which was the main 
reason to go) when you've spent 99.9% of your 42 years in one place :-)

Besides, their waterfalls are better than ours..
date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 10:30:18 +0100   author:   Mark

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