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date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:37:12 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.food+drink.real-ale        back       
Welworthspoon's   
JDW is taking over the abandoned Woolworth's at Morden.

If JDW is still expanding then all those empty Woolworth'seses would
be perfect new sites; almost all in town centres!
date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:37:12 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Offramp

Re: Welworthspoon's   
Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!! We're in desperate need of a big 
pub!

"Offramp"  wrote in message 
news:49d25ca6-cfa5-406d-b576-026c6898aeca@g37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> JDW is taking over the abandoned Woolworth's at Morden.
>
> If JDW is still expanding then all those empty Woolworth'seses would
> be perfect new sites; almost all in town centres!
date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:57:36 +0100   author:   Dan Parsons

Re: Welworthspoon's   
In message , Dan 
Parsons  wrote

>Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!! We're in desperate need of a big
>pub!

... selling Greene King at 99p/pint.

-- 
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com
date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:16:26 +0100   author:   Alan

Re: Welworthspoon's (& 'Spoons Fest)   
On Apr 18, 7:16 am, Alan  wrote:
> In message , Dan Parsons  wrote

> >Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!!

I'm trying to work out if this is a jocular request to "bury St
Edmunds" literally?

> >We're in desperate need of a big pub!

> ... selling Greene King at 99p/pint.
> Alan

Sadly(!?) the GKIPA moved on to Ruddles Best & I think the 99p has
turned into £1.29.

I know there's some really good 'Spoons, but are things really so bad
in B.St.E that you're in desperate need of a JDW?
(is it a price thing or a beer range thing?)

I've just had a look at the current JDW festival list - anyone
recommend anything - I'll prob try the "import" brews - where they
import a brewer rather than a beer - e.g. Bend Brewing, Oregon,
Heineken(!) & Baron's, Australia.

Just looking at the names "Elgood’s CXXX Bitter" seemed a bit risque,
but maybe I'm missing something - I've ordered a pint of Dog's
Bollocks before, but I can't order a pint of C***!

I can't wait for the John Smith's Heritage though :~)

I am interested to try Meantime's Pale Ale as I think they very rarely
do cask beer at all.
cheers
MikeMcG
date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 03:10:57 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Mike

Re: Welworthspoon's (& 'Spoons Fest)   
In message 
, Mike 
 wrote
>On Apr 18, 7:16 am, Alan  wrote:
>> In message , Dan 
>>Parsons  wrote
>
>> >Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!!
>
>I'm trying to work out if this is a jocular request to "bury St
>Edmunds" literally?
>
>> >We're in desperate need of a big pub!
>
>> ... selling Greene King at 99p/pint.
>> Alan
>
>Sadly(!?) the GKIPA moved on to Ruddles Best & I think the 99p has
>turned into £1.29.
>

But still a beer brewed in Bury St Edmunds.

I wonder if in order to protect their "flagship brand name" the GK IPA 
was just renamed Ruddles Best for sale to JDW?

In one episode of the Simpsons Homer had a tour of the Duff brewery and 
all the different 'brands' of Duff beer were coming out of the same 
pipe. This probably doesn't happen in UK breweries :)

-- 
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com
date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:03:40 +0100   author:   Alan

Re: Welworthspoon's (& 'Spoons Fest)   
On 18 Apr, 12:03, Alan  wrote:
> In message
> , Mike
>  wrote
>
>
>
> >On Apr 18, 7:16 am, Alan  wrote:
> >> In message , Dan
> >>Parsons  wrote
>
> >> >Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!!
>
> >I'm trying to work out if this is a jocular request to "bury St
> >Edmunds" literally?
>
> >> >We're in desperate need of a big pub!
>
> >> ... selling Greene King at 99p/pint.
> >> Alan
>
> >Sadly(!?) the GKIPA moved on to Ruddles Best & I think the 99p has
> >turned into £1.29.
>
> But still a beer brewed in Bury St Edmunds.

yep, of course. So I presume the excitement about Spoons is that it'll
be the cheapest place to buy GK in town - still not going to get me
too hot under the collar :~)

> I wonder if in order to protect their "flagship brand name" the GK IPA
> was just renamed Ruddles Best for sale to JDW?

I don't know, but a mate of mine said the Ruddles was very nice the
other night in a local JDW (yes, I was surprised to hear that) - I had
it in a non-JDW pub & it wasn't good.

> In one episode of the Simpsons Homer had a tour of the Duff brewery and
> all the different 'brands' of Duff beer were coming out of the same
> pipe. This probably doesn't happen in UK breweries :)

No of course not :~) parti-gyle brewing happens in loads of breweries,
sometimes it makes for some very good beers - Brakspear's Bitter was a
lovely pint, when Henley-brewed it was parti-gyled with Mild, Old Ale,
Special, Strong Ale & Light Ale! (I might have forgotten one).

But all were fermented as separate gyles, which I know doesn't sound
like it would make much of a difference to a dodgy-sounding practice,
but it did seem to make them not just taste like watered down versions
of the same brew.

The one beer I've tasted having known it was simply a watered down
(post fermentation) of a stronger beer, really did taste like it was -
not good, while the stronger brew was delicious.

I'm trying to remember all the GK "ghosts" - Morland (Speckled Hen) &
Ruddles, plus a few moons ago they used to brew Rayments (a hangover
from when they owned the brewery at Furneux Pelham) & likewise they
took over Wells & Winch, Biggleswade, which later brewed Genuine
Oirish Harp Lager (again closed by GK in the late 1990s)

cheers
MikeMcG
date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:26:37 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Mike

Re: Welworthspoon's (& 'Spoons Fest)   
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 04:26:37 -0700 (PDT), Mike
 wrote:

>On 18 Apr, 12:03, Alan  wrote:
>> In message
>> , Mike
>>  wrote
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Apr 18, 7:16 am, Alan  wrote:
>> >> In message , Dan
>> >>Parsons  wrote
>>
>> >> >Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!!
>>
>> >I'm trying to work out if this is a jocular request to "bury St
>> >Edmunds" literally?
>>
>> >> >We're in desperate need of a big pub!
>>
>> >> ... selling Greene King at 99p/pint.
>> >> Alan
>>
>> >Sadly(!?) the GKIPA moved on to Ruddles Best & I think the 99p has
>> >turned into £1.29.
>>
>> But still a beer brewed in Bury St Edmunds.
>
>yep, of course. So I presume the excitement about Spoons is that it'll
>be the cheapest place to buy GK in town - still not going to get me
>too hot under the collar :~)
>
>> I wonder if in order to protect their "flagship brand name" the GK IPA
>> was just renamed Ruddles Best for sale to JDW?
>
>I don't know, but a mate of mine said the Ruddles was very nice the
>other night in a local JDW (yes, I was surprised to hear that) - I had
>it in a non-JDW pub & it wasn't good.
>
>> In one episode of the Simpsons Homer had a tour of the Duff brewery and
>> all the different 'brands' of Duff beer were coming out of the same
>> pipe. This probably doesn't happen in UK breweries :)
>
>No of course not :~) parti-gyle brewing happens in loads of breweries,
>sometimes it makes for some very good beers - Brakspear's Bitter was a
>lovely pint, when Henley-brewed it was parti-gyled with Mild, Old Ale,
>Special, Strong Ale & Light Ale! (I might have forgotten one).
>
>But all were fermented as separate gyles, which I know doesn't sound
>like it would make much of a difference to a dodgy-sounding practice,
>but it did seem to make them not just taste like watered down versions
>of the same brew.
>
>The one beer I've tasted having known it was simply a watered down
>(post fermentation) of a stronger beer, really did taste like it was -
>not good, while the stronger brew was delicious.
>
>I'm trying to remember all the GK "ghosts" - Morland (Speckled Hen) &
>Ruddles, plus a few moons ago they used to brew Rayments (a hangover
>from when they owned the brewery at Furneux Pelham) & likewise they
>took over Wells & Winch, Biggleswade, which later brewed Genuine
>Oirish Harp Lager (again closed by GK in the late 1990s)
>
>cheers
>MikeMcG


Charles Wells party Gyle, weather this is done for the Young's, I do
not know as they apparently built a new brewery for Young's-wells
date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:47:28 +0100   author:   martyn dawe

Re: Welworthspoon's   
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 07:16:26 +0100, Alan 
wrote:

>In message , Dan 
>Parsons  wrote
>
>>Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!! We're in desperate need of a big
>>pub!
>
>... selling Greene King at 99p/pint.

some of the empty stores are being converted to Iceland's Frozen food
stores.
date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:49:10 +0100   author:   martyn dawe

Re: Welworthspoon's (& 'Spoons Fest)   
On 18 Apr, 11:10, Mike  wrote:
> On Apr 18, 7:16 am, Alan  wrote:
>
> > In message , Dan Parsons  wrote
> > >Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!!
>
> I'm trying to work out if this is a jocular request to "bury St
> Edmunds" literally?
>
> > >We're in desperate need of a big pub!
> > ... selling Greene King at 99p/pint.
> > Alan
>
> Sadly(!?) the GKIPA moved on to Ruddles Best & I think the 99p has
> turned into £1.29.
>
> I know there's some really good 'Spoons, but are things really so bad
> in B.St.E that you're in desperate need of a JDW?
> (is it a price thing or a beer range thing?)
>
> I've just had a look at the current JDW festival list - anyone
> recommend anything


They've all been at least worht the money so far..:-)

The Stonehnge eye-opener was interesting and good.
date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 04:08:38 -0700 (PDT)   author:   1Z

Re: Welworthspoon's (& 'Spoons Fest)   
On 20 Apr, 12:08, 1Z  wrote:
> On 18 Apr, 11:10, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 18, 7:16 am, Alan  wrote:
>
> > > In message , Dan Parsons  wrote
> > > >Please please please, Bury St Edmunds!!
>
> > I'm trying to work out if this is a jocular request to "bury St
> > Edmunds" literally?
>
> > > >We're in desperate need of a big pub!
> > > ... selling Greene King at 99p/pint.
> > > Alan
>
> > Sadly(!?) the GKIPA moved on to Ruddles Best & I think the 99p has
> > turned into £1.29.
>
> > I know there's some really good 'Spoons, but are things really so bad
> > in B.St.E that you're in desperate need of a JDW?
> > (is it a price thing or a beer range thing?)
>
> > I've just had a look at the current JDW festival list - anyone
> > recommend anything
>
> They've all been at least worht the money so far..:-)
>
> The Stonehnge eye-opener was interesting and good.

I tried 4 tonight - the (Yukon/Canadian) Lead Dog was initially just
OK, but grew on me to become quite nice.

The Moorhouse's Old Boss was lovely & freshly hoppy.

The Caley Raspberry Fool was OK & pretty balanced - fairly "beery";
but with a good hint of fruit flavour, not too sweet & not too fake in
the fruit.

& the Marston's Single Malt was vile - woody, cardboardy, stale &
nasty.

cheers,
MikeMcG
date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:31:13 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Mike

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