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date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:59:31 -0800 (PST),    group: uk.food+drink.real-ale        back       
What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
When pubs submit adverts to your magazine, do you think you could give
a gentle nudge to those that do not include a complete postcode?
Although I am a pedestrian I have used GPS in the past to find out-of-
the-way pubs, and a postcode really helps!
date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:59:31 -0800 (PST)   author:   Offramp

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
In message 
, 
Offramp  wrote
>When pubs submit adverts to your magazine, do you think you could give
>a gentle nudge to those that do not include a complete postcode?
>Although I am a pedestrian I have used GPS in the past to find out-of-
>the-way pubs, and a postcode really helps!


It's hard enough getting a location let alone a post code :)

Some publicans think that their pub name alone is enough. Whilst this 
may work for the more famous (or infamous) pubs in an area it doesn't 
help if your are in the sticks and trying to build the business from a 
low base.

-- 
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com
date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 09:37:55 +0000   author:   Alan

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
On Feb 7, 9:37 am, Alan  wrote:
> In message
> ,
> Offramp  wrote
>
> >When pubs submit adverts to your magazine, do you think you could give
> >a gentle nudge to those that do not include a complete postcode?
> >Although I am a pedestrian I have used GPS in the past to find out-of-
> >the-way pubs, and a postcode really helps!
>
> It's hard enough getting a location let alone a post code :)
>
> Some publicans think that their pub name alone is enough. Whilst this
> may work for the more famous (or infamous) pubs in an area it doesn't
> help if your are in the sticks and trying to build the business from a
> low base.
>
> --
> Alan
> news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

The London Drinker has some bad examples:
"The White Hart, 1-3 Mile End Road, Whitechapel"
No further details given apart from the phone. I know the Whitechapel
area pretty well ( I shiould say that I am a psychopath ) and I do NOT
know thi spub!

The Star, 17 Church street Godalming Surrey.
Not even the start of the post code is given.

Is this like that town that refuses to comply with Railway standard
time?

The very worst example is the Wenlock Arms ( although I should say
that that name does not appear in ther London Drinker advert - you can
see for yourself on page 11 ).
They give their postcode as N1.
At the end of the advert they write:
"Nearest Tube stations are Old Street (exit 1) and Angel. Wenlock Road
is off City Road via Windsor Terrace."

Obviously no need for a postcode there, then!
date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:57:22 -0800 (PST)   author:   Offramp

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:59:31 UTC, Offramp  
wrote:

> When pubs submit adverts to your magazine, do you think you could give
> a gentle nudge to those that do not include a complete postcode?
> Although I am a pedestrian I have used GPS in the past to find out-of-
> the-way pubs, and a postcode really helps!

It would be far more useful to use the National Grid Reference; post 
codes can cover quite a large area in rural areas. Unfortunately the 
leading brands of sat nav units designed for in car use don't support 
NGR; I think Garmin do.

-- 
Jim Backus running OS/2 Warp 3 & 4, Mac OS X and Win98SE
bona fide replies to j <dot> backus <the circle thingy> jita <dot> 
demon <dot> co <dot> uk
date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:15:37 GMT   author:   Jim Backus

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
In article <TpquPuPd0tCd-pn2-xWiVKv9dwdZm@localhost>, Jim Backus 
 writes
>On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:59:31 UTC, Offramp 
>wrote:
>
>> When pubs submit adverts to your magazine, do you think you could give
>> a gentle nudge to those that do not include a complete postcode?
>> Although I am a pedestrian I have used GPS in the past to find out-of-
>> the-way pubs, and a postcode really helps!
>
>It would be far more useful to use the National Grid Reference; post
>codes can cover quite a large area in rural areas. Unfortunately the
>leading brands of sat nav units designed for in car use don't support
>NGR; I think Garmin do.

Always assuming that the author or information provider can get that 
right. I have seen a guide where the northing and easting have been 
transposed and the pair of letters replaced with OS, this placed a 
Devonshire pub somewhere in the North Sea

-- 
Ian             G8ILZ
There are always two people in every picture: the photographer and the viewer.
~Ansel Adams
date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 09:52:37 +0000   author:   Prometheus

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
There is a rude method of remembering which comes first with your easting and northing.

-- 
Brian Waine
Warrington

"Prometheus"  wrote in message news:dSHbXhRltqjJFwEz@spam.newbrain.demon.co.uk...
> In article <TpquPuPd0tCd-pn2-xWiVKv9dwdZm@localhost>, Jim Backus  writes
>>On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:59:31 UTC, Offramp 
>>wrote:
>>
>>> When pubs submit adverts to your magazine, do you think you could give
>>> a gentle nudge to those that do not include a complete postcode?
>>> Although I am a pedestrian I have used GPS in the past to find out-of-
>>> the-way pubs, and a postcode really helps!
>>
>>It would be far more useful to use the National Grid Reference; post
>>codes can cover quite a large area in rural areas. Unfortunately the
>>leading brands of sat nav units designed for in car use don't support
>>NGR; I think Garmin do.
>
> Always assuming that the author or information provider can get that right. I have seen a guide where the northing and 
> easting have been transposed and the pair of letters replaced with OS, this placed a Devonshire pub somewhere in the 
> North Sea
>
> -- 
> Ian             G8ILZ
> There are always two people in every picture: the photographer and the viewer.
> ~Ansel Adams
date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 10:46:20 -0000   author:   Brian Waine

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:52:37 -0000, Prometheus   
wrote:

> In article <TpquPuPd0tCd-pn2-xWiVKv9dwdZm@localhost>, Jim Backus  
>  writes
>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:59:31 UTC, Offramp 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When pubs submit adverts to your magazine, do you think you could give
>>> a gentle nudge to those that do not include a complete postcode?
>>> Although I am a pedestrian I have used GPS in the past to find out-of-
>>> the-way pubs, and a postcode really helps!
>>
>> It would be far more useful to use the National Grid Reference; post
>> codes can cover quite a large area in rural areas. Unfortunately the
>> leading brands of sat nav units designed for in car use don't support
>> NGR; I think Garmin do.
>
> Always assuming that the author or information provider can get that  
> right. I have seen a guide where the northing and easting have been  
> transposed and the pair of letters replaced with OS, this placed a  
> Devonshire pub somewhere in the North Sea
>
I assumed it was one of those peculiar CAMRA GBG Rules that you drop the 2  
letters in preference to "OS" to indicate Ordnance Survey.



-- 
#Do you know where you're going to?
date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 12:27:05 -0000   author:   Nathaniel Savage

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
On Feb 8, 12:27 pm, "Nathaniel Savage" wrote:
> I assumed it was one of those peculiar CAMRA GBG Rules that you drop the 2  
> letters in preference to "OS" to indicate Ordnance Survey.

The OS bit is so that you know it's an OS reference.

It's OK to drop the letters since these identify which 100kmx100km
square the coordinates refer to: you already know roughly where the
location is based on information from the GBG.

--
Sven
date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 06:18:35 -0800 (PST)   author:   Sven Garly

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
In article <oJyjl.17090$q85.10936@newsfe13.ams2>, Brian Waine 
 writes
>There is a rude method of remembering which comes first with your 
>easting and northing.
>
There is a polite one too; in the door (eastings are the horizontals) 
and up the stairs (the northings).

Roy.
-- 
Roy Bailey
West Berkshire.
date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 14:27:20 +0000   author:   Roy Bailey

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
Sven Garly wrote:

>On Feb 8, 12:27 pm, "Nathaniel Savage" wrote:
>> I assumed it was one of those peculiar CAMRA GBG Rules that you drop the 2  
>> letters in preference to "OS" to indicate Ordnance Survey.
>
>The OS bit is so that you know it's an OS reference.
>
>It's OK to drop the letters since these identify which 100kmx100km
>square the coordinates refer to: you already know roughly where the
>location is based on information from the GBG.

Some folk give the Landranger sheet number: Sheet 12 345 678

But IF your satnav does OSGB co-ordinates you will need to know the
grid letters to enter them. The best way of writing a grid reference
is to give it in full as either OS XY 123 456 or Grid Ref  XY 123 456.



-- 
Phil Cook
date: Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:17:32 +0000   author:   Phil Cook

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
In article <op.uo08vfua9a1aoq@dell3100>, Nathaniel Savage 
 writes
>On Sun, 08 Feb 2009 09:52:37 -0000, Prometheus  
>wrote:
>
>> In article <TpquPuPd0tCd-pn2-xWiVKv9dwdZm@localhost>, Jim Backus 
>> writes
>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:59:31 UTC, Offramp 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When pubs submit adverts to your magazine, do you think you could give
>>>> a gentle nudge to those that do not include a complete postcode?
>>>> Although I am a pedestrian I have used GPS in the past to find out-of-
>>>> the-way pubs, and a postcode really helps!
>>>
>>> It would be far more useful to use the National Grid Reference; post
>>> codes can cover quite a large area in rural areas. Unfortunately the
>>> leading brands of sat nav units designed for in car use don't support
>>> NGR; I think Garmin do.
>>
>> Always assuming that the author or information provider can get that 
>>right. I have seen a guide where the northing and easting have been 
>>transposed and the pair of letters replaced with OS, this placed a 
>>Devonshire pub somewhere in the North Sea
>>
>I assumed it was one of those peculiar CAMRA GBG Rules that you drop 
>the 2  letters in preference to "OS" to indicate Ordnance Survey.

It was the GBG, I think the pub was the Duke of York at Iddesleigh, and 
'catamiting' the NGR was idiotic to say the lest.
-- 
Ian             G8ILZ
There are always two people in every picture: the photographer and the viewer.
~Ansel Adams
date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 20:42:58 +0000   author:   Prometheus

Re: What I would say to editors of beer magazines   
In article 
, Sven 
Garly  writes
>On Feb 8, 12:27 pm, "Nathaniel Savage" wrote:
>> I assumed it was one of those peculiar CAMRA GBG Rules that you drop the 2  
>> letters in preference to "OS" to indicate Ordnance Survey.
>
>The OS bit is so that you know it's an OS reference.
>
>It's OK to drop the letters since these identify which 100kmx100km
>square the coordinates refer to: you already know roughly where the
>location is based on information from the GBG.

Of course you should be able to deduce the location from the other 
published information, but why corrupt it, besides my GPS use lat/long 
or grid ref. not county and a 'catamited' NGR.

-- 
Ian             G8ILZ
There are always two people in every picture: the photographer and the viewer.
~Ansel Adams
date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 23:02:15 +0000   author:   Prometheus

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