From http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=280241

Find Good Beer Guide pubs using satellite navigation!

CAMRA is pleased to announce the launch of a Good Beer Guide Points of 
Interest (POI) file for satellite navigation systems.

The 'GBG2008' POI file allows users of TomTom sat-nav systems to see the 
locations of all the 4,500-plus Good Beer Guide 2008 pubs up and down the 
country and plan routes to them. So, now, wherever you are, there is no 
excuse for not finding your nearest Good Beer Guide pub!

The file is simple to install and use and full instructions are provided. 
Priced at just £5.00, it is the perfect tool for any serious pub explorer. 
No more wasting time thumbing through road atlases or getting lost down 
country lanes. Navigate your way easily, every time, and make the most of 
Britain's best pubs.

"Brett..."  wrote in message 
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> From http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=280241
>
> Find Good Beer Guide pubs using satellite navigation!
>
> CAMRA is pleased to announce the launch of a Good Beer Guide Points of 
> Interest (POI) file for satellite navigation systems.
>
> The 'GBG2008' POI file allows users of TomTom sat-nav systems to see the 
> locations of all the 4,500-plus Good Beer Guide 2008 pubs up and down the 
> country and plan routes to them. So, now, wherever you are, there is no 
> excuse for not finding your nearest Good Beer Guide pub!
>
> The file is simple to install and use and full instructions are provided. 
> Priced at just £5.00, it is the perfect tool for any serious pub explorer. 
> No more wasting time thumbing through road atlases or getting lost down 
> country lanes. Navigate your way easily, every time, and make the most of 
> Britain's best pubs.

Why isn't it free for members?

BTDGGTTS a écrit :

> Why isn't it free for members? 

Why should it be free, then ?

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l'illumination aszenzionnelle...
(F'murrr)

Laurent Mousson, Biel/Bienne, Switzerland

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:12:46 +0200, The Submarine Captain
 wrote:

> BTDGGTTS a écrit :
>
>> Why isn't it free for members? 
>
> Why should it be free, then ?

When?

Anthony R. Gold a écrit :
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:12:46 +0200, The Submarine Captain
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>BTDGGTTS a écrit :
>>
>>
>>>Why isn't it free for members? 
>>
>>Why should it be free, then ?
> 
> 
> When?

Because ?

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Warning : you may encounter French language beyond this point.

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Laurent Mousson, Biel/Bienne, Switzerland

Anthony R. Gold wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:12:46 +0200, The Submarine Captain
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>BTDGGTTS a écrit :
>>
>>
>>>Why isn't it free for members? 
>>
>>Why should it be free, then ?
> 
> 
> When?

Hello Tony. Long time no see.

Dave G6 KHP

You have been missed

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:28:26 +0100, Dave  wrote:

> Hello Tony. Long time no see.
>
> Dave G6 KHP
>
> You have been missed

Thanks for your kind wishes Dave - I never realized I had gone missing :-)

Tony G3SKR + W2TG

"The Submarine Captain"  wrote in message 
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> BTDGGTTS a écrit :
>
>> Why isn't it free for members?
>
> Why should it be free, then ?

Why not?

If they want to promote real ale what more of an incentive would anyone with 
a SatNav need to drink if they can find out about the pubs for free.

In article , BTDGGTTS
<none>
wrote:

> "The Submarine Captain"  wrote in message
> news:4880da99$1_5@news.bluewin.ch...
> > BTDGGTTS a écrit :
> >
> >> Why isn't it free for members?
> >
> > Why should it be free, then ?

> Why not?

> If they want to promote real ale what more of an incentive would anyone
> with a SatNav need to drink if they can find out about the pubs for
> free. 

and the incentive to buy a copy of the Good Beer Guide would be?
Now if you had to have a copy of the Good Beer Guide to qualify for a
discount on the software that would be a reasonable state of affairs.

-- 

Steve Pampling

Anthony R. Gold wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:28:26 +0100, Dave  wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hello Tony. Long time no see.
>>
>>Dave G6 KHP
>>
>>You have been missed
> 
> 
> Thanks for your kind wishes Dave - I never realized I had gone missing :-)
> 
> Tony G3SKR + W2TG
I meant from uk radio

Dave

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:21:37 +0100, Anthony R. Gold wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:28:26 +0100, Dave  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Tony. Long time no see.
>>
>> Dave G6 KHP
>>
>> You have been missed
> 
> Thanks for your kind wishes Dave - I never realized I had gone missing :-)
> 
> Tony G3SKR + W2TG

Hi Tony, I didn't realize you were keen on real ale (or is it Sat Nav)?

--  
Cheers
Brian
G3THQ

In article <khkwzftbxwbe.1qrn6v1263b9l$.dlg@40tude.net>,
   Brian  wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:21:37 +0100, Anthony R. Gold wrote:

> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:28:26 +0100, Dave  wrote:
> > 
> >> Hello Tony. Long time no see.
> >>
> >> Dave G6 KHP
> >>
> >> You have been missed
> > 
> > Thanks for your kind wishes Dave - I never realized I had gone missing :-)
> > 
> > Tony G3SKR + W2TG

> Hi Tony, I didn't realize you were keen on real ale (or is it Sat Nav)?

I didn't know Steve Pampling was into TomToms either

-- 
Stuart Winsor

For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area
See: http://www.barndance.org.uk

In article ,
   Stuart  wrote:
> In article <khkwzftbxwbe.1qrn6v1263b9l$.dlg@40tude.net>,
>    Brian  wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:21:37 +0100, Anthony R. Gold wrote:

> > > On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:28:26 +0100, Dave  wrote:
> > > 
> > >> Hello Tony. Long time no see.
> > >>
> > >> Dave G6 KHP
> > >>
> > >> You have been missed
> > > 
> > > Thanks for your kind wishes Dave - I never realized I had gone missing :-)
> > > 
> > > Tony G3SKR + W2TG

> > Hi Tony, I didn't realize you were keen on real ale (or is it Sat Nav)?

> I didn't know Steve Pampling was into TomToms either

He's not - who needs a Tom Tom when you've get me?!

-- 
Christine Pampling
www.pandorasboxhealing.com

"BTDGGTTS" <none> wrote in message 
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>
> "Brett..."  wrote in message 
> news:na2dnWVNPYLGUx3VnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> From http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=280241
>>
>> Find Good Beer Guide pubs using satellite navigation!
>>
>> CAMRA is pleased to announce the launch of a Good Beer Guide Points of 
>> Interest (POI) file for satellite navigation systems.
>>
>> The 'GBG2008' POI file allows users of TomTom sat-nav systems to see the 
>> locations of all the 4,500-plus Good Beer Guide 2008 pubs up and down the 
>> country and plan routes to them. So, now, wherever you are, there is no 
>> excuse for not finding your nearest Good Beer Guide pub!
>>
>> The file is simple to install and use and full instructions are provided. 
>> Priced at just £5.00, it is the perfect tool for any serious pub 
>> explorer. No more wasting time thumbing through road atlases or getting 
>> lost down country lanes. Navigate your way easily, every time, and make 
>> the most of Britain's best pubs.
>
> Why isn't it free for members?

For the same reasons that other products such as the GBG are not free to 
members.
Besides a fiver is hardly going to break the bank is it?

"Steven Pampling"  wrote in message 
news:4fc1676092steve.pampling@dsl.pipex.com...
> In article , BTDGGTTS
> <none>
> wrote:
>
>> "The Submarine Captain"  wrote in message
>> news:4880da99$1_5@news.bluewin.ch...
>> > BTDGGTTS a écrit :
>> >
>> >> Why isn't it free for members?
>> >
>> > Why should it be free, then ?
>
>> Why not?
>
>> If they want to promote real ale what more of an incentive would anyone
>> with a SatNav need to drink if they can find out about the pubs for
>> free.
>
> and the incentive to buy a copy of the Good Beer Guide would be?
> Now if you had to have a copy of the Good Beer Guide to qualify for a
> discount on the software that would be a reasonable state of affairs.

Agreed.

"Brett..."  wrote in message 
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>
> "BTDGGTTS" <none> wrote in message 
> news:R-udnf4B8IALTR3VnZ2dnUVZ8tbinZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "Brett..."  wrote in message 
>> news:na2dnWVNPYLGUx3VnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>> From http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=280241
>>>
>>> Find Good Beer Guide pubs using satellite navigation!
>>>
>>> CAMRA is pleased to announce the launch of a Good Beer Guide Points of 
>>> Interest (POI) file for satellite navigation systems.
>>>
>>> The 'GBG2008' POI file allows users of TomTom sat-nav systems to see the 
>>> locations of all the 4,500-plus Good Beer Guide 2008 pubs up and down 
>>> the country and plan routes to them. So, now, wherever you are, there is 
>>> no excuse for not finding your nearest Good Beer Guide pub!
>>>
>>> The file is simple to install and use and full instructions are 
>>> provided. Priced at just £5.00, it is the perfect tool for any serious 
>>> pub explorer. No more wasting time thumbing through road atlases or 
>>> getting lost down country lanes. Navigate your way easily, every time, 
>>> and make the most of Britain's best pubs.
>>
>> Why isn't it free for members?
>
> For the same reasons that other products such as the GBG are not free to 
> members.

Well I *AM* a member.
The emails are infrequent on updates or offers and info from CAMRA
The website offers POIs for TomTom only, so why not provide them for other 
SatNavs? (After all the conversion program is free)


> Besides a fiver is hardly going to break the bank is it?

I'll have you know that's 2 pints in my local sports club, and it's not 
Lager either !

Brett... wrote:
> "BTDGGTTS" <none> wrote in message 
> news:R-udnf4B8IALTR3VnZ2dnUVZ8tbinZ2d@bt.com...
>> "Brett..."  wrote in message 
>> news:na2dnWVNPYLGUx3VnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>> From http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=280241
>>>
>>> Find Good Beer Guide pubs using satellite navigation!
>>>
>>> CAMRA is pleased to announce the launch of a Good Beer Guide Points of 
>>> Interest (POI) file for satellite navigation systems.
>>>
>>> The 'GBG2008' POI file allows users of TomTom sat-nav systems to see the 
>>> locations of all the 4,500-plus Good Beer Guide 2008 pubs up and down the 
>>> country and plan routes to them. So, now, wherever you are, there is no 
>>> excuse for not finding your nearest Good Beer Guide pub!
>>>
>>> The file is simple to install and use and full instructions are provided. 
>>> Priced at just £5.00, it is the perfect tool for any serious pub 
>>> explorer. No more wasting time thumbing through road atlases or getting 
>>> lost down country lanes. Navigate your way easily, every time, and make 
>>> the most of Britain's best pubs.
>> Why isn't it free for members?
> 
> For the same reasons that other products such as the GBG are not free to 
> members.
> Besides a fiver is hardly going to break the bank is it? 
> 
>

That would be useful but my satnav is not TomTom. If it was a POI file I 
could use I would probably buy it. As it is I shall carry on lugging my 
GBG around and not get lost by using the postcodes it very handily provides.

Stuart

"Stuart Hudson"  wrote in message 
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> Brett... wrote:
>> "BTDGGTTS" <none> wrote in message 
>> news:R-udnf4B8IALTR3VnZ2dnUVZ8tbinZ2d@bt.com...
>>> "Brett..."  wrote in message 
>>> news:na2dnWVNPYLGUx3VnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>>> From http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=280241
>>>>
>>>> Find Good Beer Guide pubs using satellite navigation!
>>>>
>>>> CAMRA is pleased to announce the launch of a Good Beer Guide Points of 
>>>> Interest (POI) file for satellite navigation systems.
>>>>
>>>> The 'GBG2008' POI file allows users of TomTom sat-nav systems to see 
>>>> the locations of all the 4,500-plus Good Beer Guide 2008 pubs up and 
>>>> down the country and plan routes to them. So, now, wherever you are, 
>>>> there is no excuse for not finding your nearest Good Beer Guide pub!
>>>>
>>>> The file is simple to install and use and full instructions are 
>>>> provided. Priced at just £5.00, it is the perfect tool for any serious 
>>>> pub explorer. No more wasting time thumbing through road atlases or 
>>>> getting lost down country lanes. Navigate your way easily, every time, 
>>>> and make the most of Britain's best pubs.
>>> Why isn't it free for members?
>>
>> For the same reasons that other products such as the GBG are not free to 
>> members.
>> Besides a fiver is hardly going to break the bank is it?
>
> That would be useful but my satnav is not TomTom. If it was a POI file I 
> could use I would probably buy it. As it is I shall carry on lugging my 
> GBG around and not get lost by using the postcodes it very handily 
> provides.
>
> Stuart
>

There are plans to offer alternative versions but you can always convert 
from one system to another by using
http://tomtom.gps-data-team.com/poi/poi_edit.php
or
http://rjdavies.users.btopenworld.com/html/poiconverter.html

"BTDGGTTS" <none> wrote in message 
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> "Brett..."  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "BTDGGTTS" <none> wrote in message 
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>>>
>>> "Brett..."  wrote in message 
>>> news:na2dnWVNPYLGUx3VnZ2dnUVZ8umdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>>> From http://www.camra.org.uk/page.aspx?o=280241
>>>>
>>>> Find Good Beer Guide pubs using satellite navigation!
>>>>
>>>> CAMRA is pleased to announce the launch of a Good Beer Guide Points of 
>>>> Interest (POI) file for satellite navigation systems.
>>>>
>>>> The 'GBG2008' POI file allows users of TomTom sat-nav systems to see 
>>>> the locations of all the 4,500-plus Good Beer Guide 2008 pubs up and 
>>>> down the country and plan routes to them. So, now, wherever you are, 
>>>> there is no excuse for not finding your nearest Good Beer Guide pub!
>>>>
>>>> The file is simple to install and use and full instructions are 
>>>> provided. Priced at just £5.00, it is the perfect tool for any serious 
>>>> pub explorer. No more wasting time thumbing through road atlases or 
>>>> getting lost down country lanes. Navigate your way easily, every time, 
>>>> and make the most of Britain's best pubs.
>>>
>>> Why isn't it free for members?
>>
>> For the same reasons that other products such as the GBG are not free to 
>> members.
>
> Well I *AM* a member.

And feedback from other members has indicated that a fiver is excellent 
value for money for the POI

> The emails are infrequent on updates or offers and info from CAMRA
> The website offers POIs for TomTom only, so why not provide them for other 
> SatNavs? (After all the conversion program is free)
>

This is being planned, with Garmin being offered first.

>
>> Besides a fiver is hardly going to break the bank is it?
>
> I'll have you know that's 2 pints in my local sports club, and it's not 
> Lager either !

Exactly it is fantastic value for money.

In article <kridnTbRDccJtjnVnZ2dnUVZ8uGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet>, "Brett..."  wrote:
>And feedback from other members has indicated that a fiver is excellent 
>value for money for the POI

in terms of other commercial POI's or in terms of a CAMRA GBG offering.

its just Ive discussed this alot with people recently, members and non 
members, who would see the benefit of buying the book (though probably 
from Amazon because even with members discount its still more expensive 
via CAMRA),for the extra info it provides, but baulk at the cost of paying 
for a GBG POI as they see it as firstly "free" information and secondly 
its half the cost of buying the book anyway, but is nowhere near half the 
value.

>Exactly it is fantastic value for money. 

well no I dont actually think it is.

Aw

In article ,
   awavey@yahoo.com  wrote:
> In article <kridnTbRDccJtjnVnZ2dnUVZ8uGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet>, "Brett..."
>  wrote:
> >And feedback from other members has indicated that a fiver is excellent
> > value for money for the POI

> in terms of other commercial POI's or in terms of a CAMRA GBG offering.

> its just Ive discussed this alot with people recently, members and non
> members, who would see the benefit of buying the book (though probably
> from Amazon because even with members discount its still more expensive
> via CAMRA),for the extra info it provides, but baulk at the cost of
> paying for a GBG POI as they see it as firstly "free" information and
> secondly its half the cost of buying the book anyway, but is nowhere
> near half the value.

Perhaps the Good Beer Guide should include a voucher for a discount on the
POI.

Don't answer here Brett - it needs much discussion.

-- 

Steve Pampling

wrote in message 
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> In article <kridnTbRDccJtjnVnZ2dnUVZ8uGdnZ2d@posted.plusnet>, "Brett..." 
>  wrote:
>>And feedback from other members has indicated that a fiver is excellent
>>value for money for the POI
>
> in terms of other commercial POI's or in terms of a CAMRA GBG offering.
>
> its just Ive discussed this alot with people recently, members and non
> members, who would see the benefit of buying the book (though probably
> from Amazon because even with members discount its still more expensive
> via CAMRA),for the extra info it provides, but baulk at the cost of paying
> for a GBG POI as they see it as firstly "free" information and secondly
> its half the cost of buying the book anyway, but is nowhere near half the
> value.
>
>>Exactly it is fantastic value for money.
>
> well no I dont actually think it is.
>

Sales so far would indicate your view is not a common one.


Brett