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date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:58:15 GMT,    group: uk.food+drink.misc        back       
Re: Prestige Pressure Cooker   
The message 
from Jane Gillett  contains these words:

> The point about H1N1 is not that it is a bad flu but that it is spreading
> in a large proportion of the world ( can't remember the proportion that
> defines a "pandemic" but H1N1 comes within it). Actually, IAGTU that as flu
> types go it is not a very serious one; the main problem is (apart from the
> high virus load mentioned above) that if a lot of people get it all at the
> same time then our facilities are going to become seriously undermanned and
> will not be able to provide the service we need. 

        The  developed world has withstood  " service depletions " on
many occasions; wars, 
fuelstrikes and the 3-day week. They were temporary and therefore
recoverable. If HINI remains mild in most people,. it should do no
worse.

    AIUI   the far more serious risk from the current worldwide flu
pandemic, is ;  
   HINI is a flu variant which has already crossed species ; it's highly
transmissible between humans.
 Simultaneously at large in some parts of the world, is avian flu. Avian
flu is also a cross-species flu; but luckily, it has not 
yet become easily transmissible between humans.  Luckily because the
human mortality rate from avian flu is 50%.
 The worst case scenario is that the two flu viruses will meet and
mutate to produce  a new variant  flu virus which is highly
transmissible between humans and has
 a  massive mortality rate.


    Janet
date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:58:15 GMT   author:   Janet Baraclough

Re: Prestige Pressure Cooker   
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:19:30 +0100, "Tim C."  wrote:

>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:57:40 -0000, Ophelia wrote in post :
><news:7l7oovF3che5nU1@mid.individual.net> :
>
>> "Tim C."  wrote in message 
>> news:1dtsqvfi9vjig.351j9yoyedzc.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:21:00 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett wrote in post :
>>> <news:50b2c9fe7aj.gillett@higherstert.co.uk> :
>>>
>>>> In article <19kita5prqk3t$.gfnlcoaonfnc$.dlg@40tude.net>,
>>>>    Tim C.  wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:50:41 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett wrote in post :
>>>>> <news:50b2436144j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk> :
>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. That ties up pretty well with what I found. Tamiflu slows the
>>>>>> progression of the disease within the body because it cannot leave the 
>>>>>> cell
>>>>>> it has multiplied in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AIuI there is still a potential for creating resistance by badly 
>>>>>> managed
>>>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>>> Of course. The side effects might help prevent that though. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Tell me more! Seriously, I don't understand. What side effects?
>>>> Jane
>>>
>>> Nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, abdominal pains, and headaches. Plus others 
>>> in
>>> rare cases.
>> 
>> I seem to have been very lucky!
>
>Well, I suppose most people don't get any, but I've heard (from a number of
>reliable sources) the side-effect rate is relatively high. But I have no
>real data to prove it. 

You've probably heard that the swine flu vaccine is dangerous too.
-- 

Martin
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:34:58 +0100   author:   Martin lid

Re: Prestige Pressure Cooker   
http://www.aldi.nl/OFFER_NL_MI/OFFER_45/OFF07.SHTML

What looks like one of the Spanish 6 litre pressure cookers for €39.99

Coming to an Aldi near you soon, maybe. Judith?
-- 

Martin
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:37:44 +0100   author:   Martin lid

Re: Prestige Pressure Cooker   
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:34:58 +0100, Martin wrote in post :
<news:3ddte5lh43plvfkt3t0opqv4aa32k5s1v9@4ax.com> :

> On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:19:30 +0100, "Tim C."  wrote:
> 
>>On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 09:57:40 -0000, Ophelia wrote in post :
>><news:7l7oovF3che5nU1@mid.individual.net> :
>>
>>> "Tim C."  wrote in message 
>>> news:1dtsqvfi9vjig.351j9yoyedzc.dlg@40tude.net...
>>>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:21:00 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett wrote in post :
>>>> <news:50b2c9fe7aj.gillett@higherstert.co.uk> :
>>>>
>>>>> In article <19kita5prqk3t$.gfnlcoaonfnc$.dlg@40tude.net>,
>>>>>    Tim C.  wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 08:50:41 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett wrote in post :
>>>>>> <news:50b2436144j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk> :
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks. That ties up pretty well with what I found. Tamiflu slows the
>>>>>>> progression of the disease within the body because it cannot leave the 
>>>>>>> cell
>>>>>>> it has multiplied in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AIuI there is still a potential for creating resistance by badly 
>>>>>>> managed
>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course. The side effects might help prevent that though. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell me more! Seriously, I don't understand. What side effects?
>>>>> Jane
>>>>
>>>> Nausea, vomiting, diarrhoea, abdominal pains, and headaches. Plus others 
>>>> in
>>>> rare cases.
>>> 
>>> I seem to have been very lucky!
>>
>>Well, I suppose most people don't get any, but I've heard (from a number of
>>reliable sources) the side-effect rate is relatively high. But I have no
>>real data to prove it. 
> 
> You've probably heard that the swine flu vaccine is dangerous too.

I never said Tamiflu(tm) was dangerous.  :-)
-- 
Tim C.
date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:56:00 +0100   author:   Tim C.

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