So, after getting my flu jab today I popped in to my nearest local store (or 
nearest to the Health Centre) and that is Somerfield, or Somerfield/Co-op as 
they now seem to be calling themselves.

One bargain I picked up was Greenalls Original London Dry Gin 70cl for GBP 
9.99. It did say reduced from blah, blah, blah... but I don't pay much 
attention to such notices. I've just tried it before lunch, taking it my 
favourite way, pink, with chilled water, no ice, and I must say it is very 
nice with a real proper gin taste to it. It is also a proper 40% ABV so 
there is none of the Gordon's style rip off about it. As Tesco seem to be 
selling the same stuff for GBP 11.39 ATM I must try and pop back and stock 
up. Maybe if the swine flu vaccine arrives next week as threatened I shall 
pay a return visit.

I also bought some Co-op Stollen and Co-op iced fruit slices but have not 
tried them yet and I will be surprised if the Stollen is as good as Lidls.

-- 
Pete

Pete wrote:
> So, after getting my flu jab today I popped in to my nearest local
> store (or nearest to the Health Centre) and that is Somerfield, or
> Somerfield/Co-op as they now seem to be calling themselves.
>
> One bargain I picked up was Greenalls Original London Dry Gin 70cl
> for GBP 9.99. It did say reduced from blah, blah, blah... but I don't
> pay much attention to such notices. I've just tried it before lunch,
> taking it my favourite way, pink, with chilled water, no ice, and I
> must say it is very nice with a real proper gin taste to it. It is
> also a proper 40% ABV so there is none of the Gordon's style rip off
> about it. As Tesco seem to be selling the same stuff for GBP 11.39
> ATM I must try and pop back and stock up. Maybe if the swine flu
> vaccine arrives next week as threatened I shall pay a return visit.
>
> I also bought some Co-op Stollen and Co-op iced fruit slices but have
> not tried them yet and I will be surprised if the Stollen is as good
> as Lidls.

Be sure not to stint yourself eh? :)

"Pete"  wrote in message news:hbprm5$rar$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> So, after getting my flu jab today I popped in to my nearest local store (or nearest to the Health Centre) and that is Somerfield, 
> or Somerfield/Co-op as they now seem to be calling themselves.
>
> One bargain I picked up was Greenalls Original London Dry Gin 70cl for GBP 9.99. It did say reduced from blah, blah, blah... but I 
> don't pay much attention to such notices. I've just tried it before lunch, taking it my favourite way, pink, with chilled water, 
> no ice, and I must say it is very nice with a real proper gin taste to it. It is also a proper 40% ABV so there is none of the 
> Gordon's style rip off about it. As Tesco seem to be selling the same stuff for GBP 11.39 ATM I must try and pop back and stock 
> up. Maybe if the swine flu vaccine arrives next week as threatened I shall pay a return visit.
> I also bought some Co-op Stollen and Co-op iced fruit slices but have not tried them yet and I will be surprised if the Stollen is 
> as good as Lidls.
> Pete

As it happens I drove past the Greenalls distillery about 3 hours ago and noticed that the stills had disappeared!
Whether they have just moved to new premises or been sold I will have to find out!
I just found out!!! They have moved to a new site at Birchwood Warrington.
The chap said that for the last few years after a fire they have been brewing at the new plant & distilling at the old
but they now have it all together at Birchwood.
Dave Croft
Warrington

"Ophelia"  wrote in message 
news:7kbaegF3846odU3@mid.individual.net...
> Pete wrote:
>> So, after getting my flu jab today I popped in to my nearest local
>> store (or nearest to the Health Centre) and that is Somerfield, or
>> Somerfield/Co-op as they now seem to be calling themselves.
>>
>> One bargain I picked up was Greenalls Original London Dry Gin 70cl
>> for GBP 9.99. It did say reduced from blah, blah, blah... but I don't
>> pay much attention to such notices. I've just tried it before lunch,
>> taking it my favourite way, pink, with chilled water, no ice, and I
>> must say it is very nice with a real proper gin taste to it. It is
>> also a proper 40% ABV so there is none of the Gordon's style rip off
>> about it. As Tesco seem to be selling the same stuff for GBP 11.39
>> ATM I must try and pop back and stock up. Maybe if the swine flu
>> vaccine arrives next week as threatened I shall pay a return visit.
>>
>> I also bought some Co-op Stollen and Co-op iced fruit slices but have
>> not tried them yet and I will be surprised if the Stollen is as good
>> as Lidls.
>
> Be sure not to stint yourself eh? :)

LOL! I've now reached the "live every day as if it might be your last... and 
one day you will not be disappointed" or some such wise words.

(And to tell the truth, nothing was a true bargain as I can barely walk 
these days so it cost me GBP 3.50 for a taxi to the Health Centre and the 
same return fare! Seven quid on top of a 9.99 bargain bottle of gin does not 
sound so clever! Never mind, the OAP heating allowance will arrive in my 
bank soon and I shall ensure that goes to my internal central heating 
account!)

Mind you, that Greenall's is good! I'm on to my fourth pink gin!

-- 
Pete

"Dave Croft"  wrote in message 
news:7kbc90F39af44U1@mid.individual.net...
> "Pete"  wrote in message 
> news:hbprm5$rar$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> So, after getting my flu jab today I popped in to my nearest local store 
>> (or nearest to the Health Centre) and that is Somerfield, or 
>> Somerfield/Co-op as they now seem to be calling themselves.
>>
>> One bargain I picked up was Greenalls Original London Dry Gin 70cl for 
>> GBP 9.99. It did say reduced from blah, blah, blah... but I don't pay 
>> much attention to such notices. I've just tried it before lunch, taking 
>> it my favourite way, pink, with chilled water, no ice, and I must say it 
>> is very nice with a real proper gin taste to it. It is also a proper 40% 
>> ABV so there is none of the Gordon's style rip off about it. As Tesco 
>> seem to be selling the same stuff for GBP 11.39 ATM I must try and pop 
>> back and stock up. Maybe if the swine flu vaccine arrives next week as 
>> threatened I shall pay a return visit.
>> I also bought some Co-op Stollen and Co-op iced fruit slices but have not 
>> tried them yet and I will be surprised if the Stollen is as good as 
>> Lidls.
>> Pete
>
> As it happens I drove past the Greenalls distillery about 3 hours ago and 
> noticed that the stills had disappeared!
> Whether they have just moved to new premises or been sold I will have to 
> find out!
> I just found out!!! They have moved to a new site at Birchwood Warrington.
> The chap said that for the last few years after a fire they have been 
> brewing at the new plant & distilling at the old
> but they now have it all together at Birchwood.
> Dave Croft
> Warrington

Now there's a blast from the past, Dave Croft. A few years ago I was 
discussing very hard liquorice with Dave Croft, IIRC? The sort of liquorice 
which was made into highly concentrated, very, very strong liquorishy taste 
and flavour, the type of stick which would only snap and splinter if you 
tried to break it, and not like the Bassetti "hard sticks" at all. Was that 
you???

I've now found a supplier on eBay but have to ration my orders as it tends 
to raise the BP.

It *still* makes genuine liquorice water "grog" as mentioned in "Just 
William".

-- 
Pete

p.s. Next time you're past Greenalls, tell them their gin is good!

"Pete"  wrote in message news:hbpv5v$saa$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "Dave Croft"  wrote in message news:7kbc90F39af44U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Pete"  wrote in message news:hbprm5$rar$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> So, after getting my flu jab today I popped in to my nearest local store (or nearest to the Health Centre) and that is 
>>> Somerfield, or Somerfield/Co-op as they now seem to be calling themselves.
>>>
>>> One bargain I picked up was Greenalls Original London Dry Gin 70cl for GBP 9.99. It did say reduced from blah, blah, blah... but 
>>> I don't pay much attention to such notices. I've just tried it before lunch, taking it my favourite way, pink, with chilled 
>>> water, no ice, and I must say it is very nice with a real proper gin taste to it. It is also a proper 40% ABV so there is none 
>>> of the Gordon's style rip off about it. As Tesco seem to be selling the same stuff for GBP 11.39 ATM I must try and pop back and 
>>> stock up. Maybe if the swine flu vaccine arrives next week as threatened I shall pay a return visit.
>>> I also bought some Co-op Stollen and Co-op iced fruit slices but have not tried them yet and I will be surprised if the Stollen 
>>> is as good as Lidls.
>>> Pete
>>
>> As it happens I drove past the Greenalls distillery about 3 hours ago and noticed that the stills had disappeared!
>> Whether they have just moved to new premises or been sold I will have to find out!
>> I just found out!!! They have moved to a new site at Birchwood Warrington.
>> The chap said that for the last few years after a fire they have been brewing at the new plant & distilling at the old
>> but they now have it all together at Birchwood.
>> Dave Croft
>> Warrington
>
> Now there's a blast from the past, Dave Croft. A few years ago I was discussing very hard liquorice with Dave Croft, IIRC? The 
> sort of liquorice which was made into highly concentrated, very, very strong liquorishy taste and flavour, the type of stick which 
> would only snap and splinter if you tried to break it, and not like the Bassetti "hard sticks" at all. Was that you???
>
> I've now found a supplier on eBay but have to ration my orders as it tends to raise the BP.
> It *still* makes genuine liquorice water "grog" as mentioned in "Just  William".
> Pete
> p.s. Next time you're past Greenalls, tell them their gin is good!

Hi Pete, I do remember the chat & the picture we discussed is
still on my webshots page! see
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2275510720028520097mckjts

-- 
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv

Pete wrote:
> "Ophelia"  wrote in message
> news:7kbaegF3846odU3@mid.individual.net...
>> Pete wrote:
>>> So, after getting my flu jab today I popped in to my nearest local
>>> store (or nearest to the Health Centre) and that is Somerfield, or
>>> Somerfield/Co-op as they now seem to be calling themselves.
>>>
>>> One bargain I picked up was Greenalls Original London Dry Gin 70cl
>>> for GBP 9.99. It did say reduced from blah, blah, blah... but I
>>> don't pay much attention to such notices. I've just tried it before
>>> lunch, taking it my favourite way, pink, with chilled water, no
>>> ice, and I must say it is very nice with a real proper gin taste to
>>> it. It is also a proper 40% ABV so there is none of the Gordon's
>>> style rip off about it. As Tesco seem to be selling the same stuff
>>> for GBP 11.39 ATM I must try and pop back and stock up. Maybe if
>>> the swine flu vaccine arrives next week as threatened I shall pay a
>>> return visit. I also bought some Co-op Stollen and Co-op iced fruit 
>>> slices but
>>> have not tried them yet and I will be surprised if the Stollen is
>>> as good as Lidls.
>>
>> Be sure not to stint yourself eh? :)
>
> LOL! I've now reached the "live every day as if it might be your
> last... and one day you will not be disappointed" or some such wise
> words.
> (And to tell the truth, nothing was a true bargain as I can barely
> walk these days so it cost me GBP 3.50 for a taxi to the Health
> Centre and the same return fare! Seven quid on top of a 9.99 bargain
> bottle of gin does not sound so clever! Never mind, the OAP heating
> allowance will arrive in my bank soon and I shall ensure that goes to
> my internal central heating account!)
>
> Mind you, that Greenall's is good! I'm on to my fourth pink gin!

What do you put in it to make it, pink?

"Dave Croft"  wrote in message 
news:7kbennF394fc5U1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
> Hi Pete, I do remember the chat & the picture we discussed is
> still on my webshots page! see
> http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2275510720028520097mckjts

That's the stuff!  I haven't had any for a few months so I think I'll order 
some for Christmas. (And my BP is OK just now.)

-- 
Pete

"Ophelia"  wrote in message 
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> Pete wrote:
>>
>> Mind you, that Greenall's is good! I'm on to my fourth pink gin!
>
> What do you put in it to make it, pink?

A couple of drops of Angostura Bitters - I'm still using a bottle I 
mentioned a while back and which I bought many, many years ago.

Take glass.

Shake in Angostura Bitters.

(Some people now swill it around glass, then shake out excess. They don't 
like it "proper pink"! I just leave the angostura in the glass.)

Pour in desired measure of gin. (Good gin! Strong gin! Proper gin!)

Gin will have turned pink.

Afficianadoes (like wot I am) now only add chilled water, and we keep a 
thermos flask of chilled water for such occasions. We do not like ice - it 
dilutes the gin even more than the water.

Other tastes include adding tonic, soda and goodness knows what else to the 
glass.

The orginal drink like wot I described ends up as a still, cool, pink, 
slightly oily beverage which smells a bit like bay rum. Perhaps this is why 
it was so popular in RN Officers' Mess circles though gin was *always* more 
freely available than bay rum hairdressing. As a matter of fact, some RN 
Stewards who served in Officers' Messes used pink gin when bay rum was not 
available.

Anyhoo... I always remember a scene from the movie "The Cruel Sea" starring 
Jack Hawkins: during a leave period following his ship having been sunk, he 
was waiting for a fellow officer to join him for a drink in a London hotel. 
While waiting he ordered a pink gin from the old waiter attending in the 
hotel lounge. The drink was delivered together with a jug of water. Hawkins 
glanced at the water and asked if it may be changed as it "seems dusty".

"Yes, sir, certainly sir", said the poor old waiter. "There is a war on, you 
know," he informed Hawkins who had only recently been rescued from his own 
torpedoed ship.

-- 
Pete

Pete wrote:
> "Ophelia"  wrote in message
> news:7kbeqkF397bv1U1@mid.individual.net...
>> Pete wrote:
>>>
>>> Mind you, that Greenall's is good! I'm on to my fourth pink gin!
>>
>> What do you put in it to make it, pink?
>
> A couple of drops of Angostura Bitters - I'm still using a bottle I
> mentioned a while back and which I bought many, many years ago.
>
> Take glass.
>
> Shake in Angostura Bitters.
>
> (Some people now swill it around glass, then shake out excess. They
> don't like it "proper pink"! I just leave the angostura in the glass.)
>
> Pour in desired measure of gin. (Good gin! Strong gin! Proper gin!)
>
> Gin will have turned pink.
>
> Afficianadoes (like wot I am) now only add chilled water, and we keep
> a thermos flask of chilled water for such occasions. We do not like
> ice - it dilutes the gin even more than the water.
>
> Other tastes include adding tonic, soda and goodness knows what else
> to the glass.
>
> The orginal drink like wot I described ends up as a still, cool, pink,
> slightly oily beverage which smells a bit like bay rum. Perhaps this
> is why it was so popular in RN Officers' Mess circles though gin was
> *always* more freely available than bay rum hairdressing. As a matter
> of fact, some RN Stewards who served in Officers' Messes used pink
> gin when bay rum was not available.
>
> Anyhoo... I always remember a scene from the movie "The Cruel Sea"
> starring Jack Hawkins: during a leave period following his ship
> having been sunk, he was waiting for a fellow officer to join him for
> a drink in a London hotel. While waiting he ordered a pink gin from
> the old waiter attending in the hotel lounge. The drink was delivered
> together with a jug of water. Hawkins glanced at the water and asked
> if it may be changed as it "seems dusty".
> "Yes, sir, certainly sir", said the poor old waiter. "There is a war
> on, you know," he informed Hawkins who had only recently been rescued
> from his own torpedoed ship.

Cor, lummie blimey, Guv.  I think I will stick with my G&T with ice and 
lemon:))

"Ophelia"  wrote in message 
news:7kbgp3F395rf9U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> Cor, lummie blimey, Guv.  I think I will stick with my G&T with ice and 
> lemon:))

LOL! Well, most of the people I know who nowadays drink "pink gin" went 
through all of those poncy stages like "ice and a slice" etc., etc., etc. 
... We then realised that wot we really liked was gin! Mother's ruin! And 
get rid of the stuff wot makes it taste nice!

Seriously, most of the pink gin drinkers I know came to love it when working 
in the back of beyond (or maybe on a RN ship?) and the refrigeration had 
gone, the lemons were gone, and the limes were gone, the only way to make 
the gin palatable was to give it the Angostura + water treatment. (Neat gin 
in *any* company is a definite no-no, tell June)

-- 
Pete

Pete wrote:
> "Ophelia"  wrote in message
> news:7kbgp3F395rf9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> Cor, lummie blimey, Guv.  I think I will stick with my G&T with ice
>> and lemon:))
>
> LOL! Well, most of the people I know who nowadays drink "pink gin"
> went through all of those poncy stages like "ice and a slice" etc.,
> etc., etc. ... We then realised that wot we really liked was gin!
> Mother's ruin! And get rid of the stuff wot makes it taste nice!
>
> Seriously, most of the pink gin drinkers I know came to love it when
> working in the back of beyond (or maybe on a RN ship?) and the
> refrigeration had gone, the lemons were gone, and the limes were
> gone, the only way to make the gin palatable was to give it the
> Angostura + water treatment. (Neat gin in *any* company is a definite
> no-no, tell June)

Pah!

"Ophelia"  wrote in message news:7kbig0F33iqioU1@mid.individual.net...
> Pete wrote:
>> "Ophelia"  wrote in message
>> news:7kbgp3F395rf9U1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> Cor, lummie blimey, Guv.  I think I will stick with my G&T with ice
>>> and lemon:))
>>
>> LOL! Well, most of the people I know who nowadays drink "pink gin"
>> went through all of those poncy stages like "ice and a slice" etc.,
>> etc., etc. ... We then realised that wot we really liked was gin!
>> Mother's ruin! And get rid of the stuff wot makes it taste nice!
>>
>> Seriously, most of the pink gin drinkers I know came to love it when
>> working in the back of beyond (or maybe on a RN ship?) and the
>> refrigeration had gone, the lemons were gone, and the limes were
>> gone, the only way to make the gin palatable was to give it the
>> Angostura + water treatment. (Neat gin in *any* company is a definite
>> no-no, tell June)
>
> Pah!

I discovered about 20 years ago that I liked drinking G&T and used to indulge mainly
on December the 31st,after finishing work.
To keep in the same mood I had a few more after tea at home and more when we went
out for New Years Eve.
Me & my good lady started falling out before midnight on a few occasions.
I then realised that gin changed my personality and for years now I only drink it when alone!
It is the only drink that has this effect.
-- 
Dave Croft
Warrington
http://www.oldengine.org/members/croft/
http://community.webshots.com/user/crftdv

"Dave Croft"  wrote in message 
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>
> I discovered about 20 years ago that I liked drinking G&T and used to 
> indulge mainly
> on December the 31st,after finishing work.
> To keep in the same mood I had a few more after tea at home and more when 
> we went
> out for New Years Eve.
> Me & my good lady started falling out before midnight on a few occasions.
> I then realised that gin changed my personality and for years now I only 
> drink it when alone!
> It is the only drink that has this effect.

Aha! The well known "gin depresses me" effect!

Seriously, Dave, in a very long lifetime lived among some very serious 
drinkers, the effect of gin which you describe has been very frequently 
discussed. Gin, and particularly "London Gin", does indeed seem to have 
personality changing effects in some consumers and I have myself witnessed 
this. I do sometimes wonder if the botanicals used in the production of 
London Gin bear any resemblance to the stuff used in other potent drinks 
such as absinthe? I ask about London Gin because the common continental 
Jenever never seems to have these effects on the consumer.

(I speak as a consumer of some experience, having consumed overproof London 
Type Gin in copious quantities, in various overseas locations, at most 
advantageous duty-free prices, and having also enjoyed the comparative 
civility and tenderness of both old and young Jenever during a long 
residence in Amsterdam.)

A short reflection on Hogarth + gin will make most drinkers realise it is 
best left alone.

http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=hogarth+%2B+gin&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=tLTgSrKZCc2z4QbKgLEM&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBUQsAQwAA

http://tinyurl.com/yj9f4lj

That you say: "and for years now I only drink it when alone!" will certainly 
ring some bells with some gin drinkers I have known.

-- 
Pete

In article <hbq3po$8nq$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
   Pete  wrote:

> "Ophelia"  wrote in message 
> news:7kbgp3F395rf9U1@mid.individual.net...
> >
> > Cor, lummie blimey, Guv.  I think I will stick with my G&T with ice and 
> > lemon:))

> LOL! Well, most of the people I know who nowadays drink "pink gin" went 
> through all of those poncy stages like "ice and a slice" etc., etc., etc. 
> ... We then realised that wot we really liked was gin! Mother's ruin! And 
> get rid of the stuff wot makes it taste nice!

> Seriously, most of the pink gin drinkers I know came to love it when working 
> in the back of beyond (or maybe on a RN ship?) and the refrigeration had 
> gone, the lemons were gone, and the limes were gone, the only way to make 
> the gin palatable was to give it the Angostura + water treatment. (Neat gin 
> in *any* company is a definite no-no, tell June)

Plymouth Navy Strength straight from the freezer? I keep a bottle in the
freezer for the "special occasion".

Cheers
Jane

-- 

Jane Gillett   :   j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk   :   Totnes, Devon.

"Jane Gillett"  wrote in message 
news:50aeea4312j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk...
> In article <hbq3po$8nq$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>   Pete  wrote:
>
>> Seriously, most of the pink gin drinkers I know came to love it when 
>> working
>> in the back of beyond (or maybe on a RN ship?) and the refrigeration had
>> gone, the lemons were gone, and the limes were gone, the only way to make
>> the gin palatable was to give it the Angostura + water treatment.

> Plymouth Navy Strength straight from the freezer? I keep a bottle in the
> freezer for the "special occasion".
>

Oh yes, indeed, but as you say, "for special occasions"! I love the stuff 
and buy a single bottle of that and a bottle of Pussers Rum every December. 
(Not long now!)

-- 
Pete

On Oct 24, 5:05 pm, "Pete"  wrote:
> "Jane Gillett"  wrote in message
>
> news:50aeea4312j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk...
>
> > In article <hbq3po$8n...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >   Pete  wrote:
>
> >> Seriously, most of the pink gin drinkers I know came to love it when
> >> working
> >> in the back of beyond (or maybe on a RN ship?) and the refrigeration had
> >> gone, the lemons were gone, and the limes were gone, the only way to make
> >> the gin palatable was to give it the Angostura  water treatment.
> > Plymouth Navy Strength straight from the freezer? I keep a bottle in the
> > freezer for the "special occasion".
>
> Oh yes, indeed, but as you say, "for special occasions"! I love the stuff
> and buy a single bottle of that and a bottle of Pussers Rum every December.
> (Not long now!)
>
> --
> Pete

I'm just getting ready to go out to dinner, excuse me whilst I do a
very unladylike (small) spit!  I detest gin and I will be able to
smell it tonight when everyone is having a G&T as an apero;  moi?
Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Blanc or I may even be
racy and have a Petit Chablis.  Mind you, I don't mind a thimble full
of white rum, I tried it in Jamacia and enjoyed it especially with a
banana smashed up in it.

Judith

On 2009-10-24 17:25:56 +0100, Judith in France 
 said:

> On Oct 24, 5:05 pm, "Pete"  wrote:
>> "Jane Gillett"  wrote in message
>> 
>> news:50aeea4312j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk...
>> 
>>> In article <hbq3po$8n...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>   Pete  wrote:
>> 
>>>> Seriously, most of the pink gin drinkers I know came to love it when
>>>> working
>>>> in the back of beyond (or maybe on a RN ship?) and the refrigeration h
> ad
>>>> gone, the lemons were gone, and the limes were gone, the only way to m
> ake
>>>> the gin palatable was to give it the Angostura + water treatment.
>>> Plymouth Navy Strength straight from the freezer? I keep a bottle in th
> e
>>> freezer for the "special occasion".
>> 
>> Oh yes, indeed, but as you say, "for special occasions"! I love the stuff
>> and buy a single bottle of that and a bottle of Pussers Rum every Decembe
> r.
>> (Not long now!)
>> 
>> --
>> Pete
> 
> I'm just getting ready to go out to dinner, excuse me whilst I do a
> very unladylike (small) spit!  I detest gin and I will be able to
> smell it tonight when everyone is having a G&T as an apero;  moi?
> Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Blanc or I may even be
> racy and have a Petit Chablis.  Mind you, I don't mind a thimble full
> of white rum, I tried it in Jamacia and enjoyed it especially with a
> banana smashed up in it.
> 
> Judith

Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!
-- 
Sacha

"Judith in France"  wrote in message 
news:1c338389-06ab-4348-97d0-d7f8cea38f56@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 24, 5:05 pm, "Pete"  wrote:
> "Jane Gillett"  wrote in message
> news:50aeea4312j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk...

> > Plymouth Navy Strength straight from the freezer? I keep a bottle in the
> > freezer for the "special occasion".
>
> Oh yes, indeed, but as you say, "for special occasions"! I love the stuff
> and buy a single bottle of that and a bottle of Pussers Rum every 
> December.
> (Not long now!)
>
> --
> Pete

I'm just getting ready to go out to dinner, excuse me whilst I do a
very unladylike (small) spit!  I detest gin and I will be able to
smell it tonight when everyone is having a G&T as an apero;  moi?
Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Blanc or I may even be
racy and have a Petit Chablis.  Mind you, I don't mind a thimble full
of white rum, I tried it in Jamacia and enjoyed it especially with a
banana smashed up in it.

Judith

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Very interesting! Why do you detest gin so much?

Don't you think there is something just so ... so ... so ... I don't know 
what, when you chuck a couple or three ice cubes (fresh from the freezer!) 
into a copious glass then splash on a generous measure of good gin? The 
effects are much better than any movie or computer game - there is the 
sudden *crack*!!! as the ice cubes explode when hit by the gin, followed by 
the release of the gin's perfume. Follow that up by pouring some good tonic 
into the glass and see that never ending schhhhh.... ! effervescence! Just 
where do all those bubbles come from? A slice of lemon may be poncy in some 
eyes but is a valuable source of vitamin C and helps to avoid the tooth 
rotting scurvy.

Now, compare that with a "Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Blanc" 
or *even* your racier Petit Chablis? Both (plus many others) I'm sure have 
their place in a "Beginner's Guide To Drinking" but they are no longer for 
me. Too much acid! I never trust a glass of anything where I must first 
swallow a quick tab of "Ranitidine" to help the medicine go down, and a 
*lot* of wine seems to have this pre-consumption necessity these days, even 
wines I have paid a small king's ransom for.

Strange life is a drinker's life, and I always come back to basics which 
these days is the quintessential London Dry Gin. I've been through the wine 
phase(s), the whisky phase, the rum phase, and even the assorted spirits 
phase where everything and anything crossed my throat, even those creations 
which contained such things as worms, and as for vodka, well, vodka was 
created for people who do not like to drink. (I can think of a young cadet 
who should maybe be force fed some vodka, but no, that would be going far 
too far.)

I think it is my sense of history which draws me back to good old London 
Gin.

Oh, to have lived in those days! :
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/William_Hogarth_-_Gin_Lane.jpg/517px-William_Hogarth_-_Gin_Lane.jpg
or
http://tinyurl.com/ygqly6h

Do enjoy your dinner!

-- 
Pete

"Sacha"  wrote in message 
news:7kgpomF36oldoU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!

Now you're torkin', gal! Pass the Tanquerays, wave the Martinin cork at it, 
and off we go! (Wot's an olive?)

-- 
Pete

In message , Sacha 
 writes
>On 2009-10-24 17:25:56 +0100, Judith in France 
> said:
>
>> On Oct 24, 5:05 pm, "Pete"  wrote:
>>> "Jane Gillett"  wrote in message
>>>  news:50aeea4312j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk...
>>>
>>>> In article <hbq3po$8n...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>   Pete  wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Seriously, most of the pink gin drinkers I know came to love it 
>>>>>
>>>>> working
>>>>> in the back of beyond (or maybe on a RN ship?) and the refrigeration h
>> ad
>>>>> gone, the lemons were gone, and the limes were gone, the only way to m
>> ake
>>>>> the gin palatable was to give it the Angostura + water treatment.
>>>> Plymouth Navy Strength straight from the freezer? I keep a bottle in th
>> e
>>>> freezer for the "special occasion".
>>>  Oh yes, indeed, but as you say, "for special occasions"! I love the 
>>>stuff
>>> and buy a single bottle of that and a bottle of Pussers Rum every Decembe
>> r.
>>> (Not long now!)
>>>  --
>>> Pete
>>  I'm just getting ready to go out to dinner, excuse me whilst I do a
>> very unladylike (small) spit!  I detest gin and I will be able to
>> smell it tonight when everyone is having a G&T as an apero;  moi?
>> Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Blanc or I may even be
>> racy and have a Petit Chablis.  Mind you, I don't mind a thimble full
>> of white rum, I tried it in Jamacia and enjoyed it especially with a
>> banana smashed up in it.
>>  Judith
>
>Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!

Mine's a Tio Pepe.  On ice  :)
-- 
June Hughes

On 2009-10-24 18:14:15 +0100, "Pete"  said:

> 
> "Sacha"  wrote in message
> news:7kgpomF36oldoU1@mid.individual.net...
>> 
>> Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!
> 
> Now you're torkin', gal! Pass the Tanquerays, wave the Martinin cork at it,
> and off we go! (Wot's an olive?)

An unnecessary distraction?  The definition of a dry Martini that I 
like is someone who walks past the gin bottle with the Martini bottle 
once a week.
-- 
Sacha

"Sacha"  wrote in message 
news:7khic3F39amiqU2@mid.individual.net...
> On 2009-10-24 18:14:15 +0100, "Pete"  said:
>
>>
>> "Sacha"  wrote in message
>> news:7kgpomF36oldoU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!
>>
>> Now you're torkin', gal! Pass the Tanquerays, wave the Martinin cork at 
>> it,
>> and off we go! (Wot's an olive?)
>
> An unnecessary distraction?  The definition of a dry Martini that I like 
> is someone who walks past the gin bottle with the Martini bottle once a 
> week.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjU2ZmNhNTU3ODdhNjA0NDk4ZDJmN2JhN2QzOWNhNmU=

-- 
Pete

"Sacha"  wrote in message
news:7khic3F39amiqU2@mid.individual.net...
> On 2009-10-24 18:14:15 +0100, "Pete"  said:
>
>>
>> "Sacha"  wrote in message
>> news:7kgpomF36oldoU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!
>>
>> Now you're torkin', gal! Pass the Tanquerays, wave the Martinin cork at
>> it,
>> and off we go! (Wot's an olive?)
>
> An unnecessary distraction?  The definition of a dry Martini that I like
> is someone who walks past the gin bottle with the Martini bottle once a
> week.

Pah!  Wimps!

On Sat 24 Oct 2009 11:52:43p, Ophelia told us...

> 
> "Sacha"  wrote in message
> news:7khic3F39amiqU2@mid.individual.net...
>> On 2009-10-24 18:14:15 +0100, "Pete"  said:
>>
>>>
>>> "Sacha"  wrote in message
>>> news:7kgpomF36oldoU1@mid.individual.net... 
>>>>
>>>> Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!
>>>
>>> Now you're torkin', gal! Pass the Tanquerays, wave the Martinin cork at
>>> it, and off we go! (Wot's an olive?) 
>>
>> An unnecessary distraction?  The definition of a dry Martini that I like
>> is someone who walks past the gin bottle with the Martini bottle once a
>> week. 
> 
> Pah!  Wimps!

Back in the 1960s there was a "pub like" bar and restaurant a block from my 
workplace.  Their "standard double martini" was served in a 10oz. Waterford 
old-fashioned glasses on the rocks.  Many USians are notorious for wanting 
*ice cold* drinks, and I'm one of them.  Gin of choice, usually Tanqueray 
or Bombay, with a mere whisper of vermouth.  (I seem to recall the 
bartender rinsing the glass with vermouth and pouring it out.)  I love 
olives.  Theirs were huge, and I'd ask for 5.  A couple of friends from 
work and I would stop in 2-3 times a week after work and down 2-3 of these, 
and I rarely remember getting home.  :-) 

-- 

~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~ 

        ~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~ 

**********************************************************

                     Wayne Boatwright

"Wayne Boatwright"  wrote in message 
news:Xns9CAF96C6C029wayneboatwrightatari@69.16.185.247...
> On Sat 24 Oct 2009 11:52:43p, Ophelia told us...
>
>>
>> "Sacha"  wrote in message
>> news:7khic3F39amiqU2@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 2009-10-24 18:14:15 +0100, "Pete"  said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Sacha"  wrote in message
>>>> news:7kgpomF36oldoU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!
>>>>
>>>> Now you're torkin', gal! Pass the Tanquerays, wave the Martinin cork at
>>>> it, and off we go! (Wot's an olive?)
>>>
>>> An unnecessary distraction?  The definition of a dry Martini that I like
>>> is someone who walks past the gin bottle with the Martini bottle once a
>>> week.
>>
>> Pah!  Wimps!
>
> Back in the 1960s there was a "pub like" bar and restaurant a block from 
> my
> workplace.  Their "standard double martini" was served in a 10oz. 
> Waterford
> old-fashioned glasses on the rocks.  Many USians are notorious for wanting
> *ice cold* drinks, and I'm one of them.  Gin of choice, usually Tanqueray
> or Bombay, with a mere whisper of vermouth.  (I seem to recall the
> bartender rinsing the glass with vermouth and pouring it out.)  I love
> olives.  Theirs were huge, and I'd ask for 5.  A couple of friends from
> work and I would stop in 2-3 times a week after work and down 2-3 of 
> these,
> and I rarely remember getting home.  :-)

lol

On 2009-10-25 07:55:35 +0000, Wayne Boatwright 
 said:

> On Sat 24 Oct 2009 11:52:43p, Ophelia told us...
> 
>> 
>> "Sacha"  wrote in message
>> news:7khic3F39amiqU2@mid.individual.net...
>>> On 2009-10-24 18:14:15 +0100, "Pete"  said:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Sacha"  wrote in message
>>>> news:7kgpomF36oldoU1@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ah............bone dry Martini, olive, no rocks!
>>>> 
>>>> Now you're torkin', gal! Pass the Tanquerays, wave the Martinin cork at
>>>> it, and off we go! (Wot's an olive?)
>>> 
>>> An unnecessary distraction?  The definition of a dry Martini that I like
>>> is someone who walks past the gin bottle with the Martini bottle once a
>>> week.
>> 
>> Pah!  Wimps!
> 
> Back in the 1960s there was a "pub like" bar and restaurant a block from my
> workplace.  Their "standard double martini" was served in a 10oz. Waterford
> old-fashioned glasses on the rocks.  Many USians are notorious for wanting
> *ice cold* drinks, and I'm one of them.  Gin of choice, usually Tanqueray
> or Bombay, with a mere whisper of vermouth.  (I seem to recall the
> bartender rinsing the glass with vermouth and pouring it out.)  I love
> olives.  Theirs were huge, and I'd ask for 5.  A couple of friends from
> work and I would stop in 2-3 times a week after work and down 2-3 of these,
> and I rarely remember getting home.  :-)

I remember in Boston being served a dry martini with so much ice in it 
that I could barely taste the drink.  When I went there again, I asked 
for no ice *in* the drink and the bar tender looked at me as if I'd 
lost my mind.  And yes, I do the pouring away of the vermouth, too.
-- 
Sacha

Sacha  wrote:
> I remember in Boston being served a dry martini with so much ice in it
> that I could barely taste the drink.  When I went there again, I asked
> for no ice *in* the drink and the bar tender looked at me as if I'd 
> lost my mind.  And yes, I do the pouring away of the vermouth, too.

Maybe he was just worried about his profit margin.

At Wimbledon this summer I found that asking for less ice in the Pimms 
pretty well doubled the amount of drink you actually got: by default they 
fill the plastic cup (not glass) right to the top with ice before adding 
the Pimms.

-- 
Duncan Booth
Recently blogged about: Lanson Champagne Tasting
http://tribbletasting.blogspot.com

On Oct 24, 6:09 pm, "Pete"  wrote:
> "Judith in France"  wrote in messagenews:1c338389-06ab-4348-97d0-d7f8cea38f56@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 24, 5:05 pm, "Pete"  wrote:
>
> > "Jane Gillett"  wrote in message
> >news:50aeea4312j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk...
> > > Plymouth Navy Strength straight from the freezer? I keep a bottle in the
> > > freezer for the "special occasion".
>
> > Oh yes, indeed, but as you say, "for special occasions"! I love the stuff
> > and buy a single bottle of that and a bottle of Pussers Rum every
> > December.
> > (Not long now!)
>
> > --
> > Pete
>
> I'm just getting ready to go out to dinner, excuse me whilst I do a
> very unladylike (small) spit!  I detest gin and I will be able to
> smell it tonight when everyone is having a G&T as an apero;  moi?
> Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Blanc or I may even be
> racy and have a Petit Chablis.  Mind you, I don't mind a thimble full
> of white rum, I tried it in Jamacia and enjoyed it especially with a
> banana smashed up in it.
>
> Judith
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Very interesting! Why do you detest gin so much?
>
> Don't you think there is something just so ... so ... so ... I don't know
> what, when you chuck a couple or three ice cubes (fresh from the freezer!> into a copious glass then splash on a generous measure of good gin? The
> effects are much better than any movie or computer game - there is the
> sudden *crack*!!! as the ice cubes explode when hit by the gin, followed by
> the release of the gin's perfume. Follow that up by pouring some good tonic
> into the glass and see that never ending schhhhh.... ! effervescence! Just
> where do all those bubbles come from? A slice of lemon may be poncy in some
> eyes but is a valuable source of vitamin C and helps to avoid the tooth
> rotting scurvy.
>
> Now, compare that with a "Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Blanc"
> or *even* your racier Petit Chablis? Both (plus many others) I'm sure have
> their place in a "Beginner's Guide To Drinking" but they are no longer for
> me. Too much acid! I never trust a glass of anything where I must first
> swallow a quick tab of "Ranitidine" to help the medicine go down, and a
> *lot* of wine seems to have this pre-consumption necessity these days, even
> wines I have paid a small king's ransom for.
>
> Strange life is a drinker's life, and I always come back to basics which
> these days is the quintessential London Dry Gin. I've been through the wine
> phase(s), the whisky phase, the rum phase, and even the assorted spirits
> phase where everything and anything crossed my throat, even those creations
> which contained such things as worms, and as for vodka, well, vodka was
> created for people who do not like to drink. (I can think of a young cadet
> who should maybe be force fed some vodka, but no, that would be going far
> too far.)
>
> I think it is my sense of history which draws me back to good old London
> Gin.
>
> Oh, to have lived in those days! :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/William_Hoga...
> orhttp://tinyurl.com/ygqly6h
>
> Do enjoy your dinner!
>
> --
> Pete

LOL  I enjoyed that Pete.  No, even with your wonderful description, I
couldn't drink gin, the smell is enough for me.  I don't know why I
don't like it but I don't like any spirits.  I buy a good Cognac for
my husband, he also enjoys Armanaic, Pastis and he will drink G&T the
one that comes in a blue bottle.  I will stick with my very narrow
palate of a dry, crispy, almost perfumed white white.  Have you tried
Cloudy Bay SB?  Now tell me you would prefer a G&T after sipping that.

Judith

On 2009-10-25 13:12:00 +0000, Duncan Booth <duncan.booth@invalid.invalid> said:

> Sacha  wrote:
>> I remember in Boston being served a dry martini with so much ice in it
>> that I could barely taste the drink.  When I went there again, I asked
>> for no ice *in* the drink and the bar tender looked at me as if I'd
>> lost my mind.  And yes, I do the pouring away of the vermouth, too.
> 
> Maybe he was just worried about his profit margin.
> 
> At Wimbledon this summer I found that asking for less ice in the Pimms
> pretty well doubled the amount of drink you actually got: by default they
> fill the plastic cup (not glass) right to the top with ice before adding
> the Pimms.

That's probably true.  I was also warned by the friend I was with that 
in some bars they make the martini out of sight and then just spray a 
waft of gin over the cubes so that people think they've got a stonking 
great dry martini!
-- 
Sacha

On 2009-10-25 14:33:38 +0000, Judith in France 
 said:

> On Oct 24, 6:09 pm, "Pete"  wrote:
>> "Judith in France"  wrote in messagenews:1c3
> 38389-06ab-4348-97d0-d7f8cea38f56@m20g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...
>> On Oct 24, 5:05 pm, "Pete"  wrote:
>> 
>>> "Jane Gillett"  wrote in message
>>> news:50aeea4312j.gillett@higherstert.co.uk...
>>>> Plymouth Navy Strength straight from the freezer? I keep a bottle in
> the
>>>> freezer for the "special occasion".
>> 
>>> Oh yes, indeed, but as you say, "for special occasions"! I love the stu
> ff
>>> and buy a single bottle of that and a bottle of Pussers Rum every
>>> December.
>>> (Not long now!)
>> 
>>> --
>>> Pete
>> 
>> I'm just getting ready to go out to dinner, excuse me whilst I do a
>> very unladylike (small) spit!  I detest gin and I will be able to
>> smell it tonight when everyone is having a G&T as an apero;  moi?
>> Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Blanc or I may even be
>> racy and have a Petit Chablis.  Mind you, I don't mind a thimble full
>> of white rum, I tried it in Jamacia and enjoyed it especially with a
>> banana smashed up in it.
>> 
>> Judith
>> 
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 
>> Very interesting! Why do you detest gin so much?
>> 
>> Don't you think there is something just so ... so ... so ... I don't know
>> what, when you chuck a couple or three ice cubes (fresh from the freezer!
> )
>> into a copious glass then splash on a generous measure of good gin? The
>> effects are much better than any movie or computer game - there is the
>> sudden *crack*!!! as the ice cubes explode when hit by the gin, followed
> by
>> the release of the gin's perfume. Follow that up by pouring some good ton
> ic
>> into the glass and see that never ending schhhhh.... ! effervescence! Jus
> t
>> where do all those bubbles come from? A slice of lemon may be poncy in so
> me
>> eyes but is a valuable source of vitamin C and helps to avoid the tooth
>> rotting scurvy.
>> 
>> Now, compare that with a "Good old glass of crisp dry white Sauvignon Bla
> nc"
>> or *even* your racier Petit Chablis? Both (plus many others) I'm sure hav
> e
>> their place in a "Beginner's Guide To Drinking" but they are no longer fo
> r
>> me. Too much acid! I never trust a glass of anything where I must first
>> swallow a quick tab of "Ranitidine" to help the medicine go down, and a
>> *lot* of wine seems to have this pre-consumption necessity these days, ev
> en
>> wines I have paid a small king's ransom for.
>> 
>> Strange life is a drinker's life, and I always come back to basics which
>> these days is the quintessential London Dry Gin. I've been through the wi
> ne
>> phase(s), the whisky phase, the rum phase, and even the assorted spirits
>> phase where everything and anything crossed my throat, even those creatio
> ns
>> which contained such things as worms, and as for vodka, well, vodka was
>> created for people who do not like to drink. (I can think of a young cade
> t
>> who should maybe be force fed some vodka, but no, that would be going far
>> too far.)
>> 
>> I think it is my sense of history which draws me back to good old London
>> Gin.
>> 
>> Oh, to have lived in those days! :http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c
> ommons/thumb/d/d0/William_Hoga...
>> orhttp://tinyurl.com/ygqly6h
>> 
>> Do enjoy your dinner!
>> 
>> --
>> Pete
> 
> LOL  I enjoyed that Pete.  No, even with your wonderful description, I
> couldn't drink gin, the smell is enough for me.  I don't know why I
> don't like it but I don't like any spirits.  I buy a good Cognac for
> my husband, he also enjoys Armanaic, Pastis and he will drink G&T the
> one that comes in a blue bottle.  I will stick with my very narrow
> palate of a dry, crispy, almost perfumed white white.  Have you tried
> Cloudy Bay SB?  Now tell me you would prefer a G&T after sipping that.
> 
> Judith

But a g&t at the end of a hot summer's day is wonderful in a way that a 
glass of white wine isn't.  I love Cloudy Bay but there are times when 
only a g&t hits the spot!  BTW, have you tried the Cloudy Bay sparkling 
wine, Pelorus?  It's wonderful but probably rather hard to find in 
France.  ;-)
-- 
Sacha

"Sacha" > ha scritto nel messaggio
  I was also warned by the friend I was with that
> in some bars they make the martini out of sight and then just spray a > 
> waft of gin over the cubes so that people think they've got a stonking > 
> great dry martini!

I've never been served a martini with rocks.  They were always stirred or 
shaken then strained into the glass.  They were always awful, too.  I am 
more a Pimm's gal.

On 22 Oct, 14:53, "Pete"  wrote:

> One bargain I picked up was Greenalls Original London Dry Gin 70cl for GBP
> 9.99. It did say reduced from blah, blah, blah... but I don't pay much
> attention to such notices.

Speaking of gin - I read this the other day in the Independent, a very
interesting read it was too:

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/posh-gin-from-london-garage-bucks-the-trend-1800344.html

Richard

On 2009-10-25 20:19:20 +0000, "Giusi"  said:

> 
> "Sacha" > ha scritto nel messaggio
>   I was also warned by the friend I was with that
>> in some bars they make the martini out of sight and then just spray a >
>> waft of gin over the cubes so that people think they've got a stonking >
>> great dry martini!
> 
> I've never been served a martini with rocks.  They were always stirred or
> shaken then strained into the glass.  They were always awful, too.  I am
> more a Pimm's gal.

Oh, I like that, too but that's a lazy Sunday lunchtime/early evening 
and preferably made with dry ginger ale, not lemonade.
-- 
Sacha

Following up to vicky@dinky.vm.bytemark.co.uk 

> it's weird, a trip to northern Italy and you can get sparkling red in
> just about any restaurant (at least in Liguria you can) or deli.  It
> just either never got an audience here, or no-one has thought to
> introduce it.

Most people probably try it in Italy and don't like it. Italy is a popular
destination after all.
-- 
Mike... .  .   .    .  
Spanish food "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk/espania.htm"
remove clothing to email

sf  wrote:

> A good martini is not served *over* the rocks. 

Of course not. Ice cubes in the glass first to chill it, they get
discarded next.


> It is slowly shaken in
> ice and when it's poured you can see little spots of slush.

I'm too lazy for this. Syrupy gin straight from the freezer is enough
for me. :)


Greg
-- 
I just might say it tonight

          [No ficus = no spam]

On 2009-11-02 23:40:03 +0000, gktz@ficusheian.org.uk (Gregoire Kretz) said:

> sf  wrote:
> 
>> A good martini is not served *over* the rocks.
> 
> Of course not. Ice cubes in the glass first to chill it, they get
> discarded next.
> 
> 
>> It is slowly shaken in
>> ice and when it's poured you can see little spots of slush.
> 
> I'm too lazy for this. Syrupy gin straight from the freezer is enough
> for me. :)
> 
> 
> Greg

*Everything* is kept in the fridge that can't  be kept in the freezer.  
That includes the glasses, the olives, the lemon peel, whatever.  But 
do NOT dilute with - shudder - ice!  Okay?  ;-)
-- 
Sacha

On Mon 02 Nov 2009 05:07:00p, Sacha told us...

> On 2009-11-02 23:40:03 +0000, gktz@ficusheian.org.uk (Gregoire Kretz) 
said:
> 
>> sf  wrote:
>> 
>>> A good martini is not served *over* the rocks.
>> 
>> Of course not. Ice cubes in the glass first to chill it, they get
>> discarded next.
>> 
>> 
>>> It is slowly shaken in
>>> ice and when it's poured you can see little spots of slush.
>> 
>> I'm too lazy for this. Syrupy gin straight from the freezer is enough
>> for me. :)
>> 
>> 
>> Greg
> 
> *Everything* is kept in the fridge that can't  be kept in the freezer.  
> That includes the glasses, the olives, the lemon peel, whatever.  But 
> do NOT dilute with - shudder - ice!  Okay?  ;-)

:-)  Different strokes...

My experiences in the UK is that no beverage, whether alcoholic or not, is 
iced sufficiently.

Thre are probably more people in the US who like ice in drinks than 
anywhere else in the world.  Doesn't make it a better choice, just a 
personal choice.

-- 

~~ If there's a nit to pick, some nitwit will pick it. ~~ 

        ~~ A mind is a terrible thing to lose. ~~ 

**********************************************************

                     Wayne Boatwright

Sacha  wrote:

> *Everything* is kept in the fridge that can't  be kept in the freezer.
> That includes the glasses, the olives, the lemon peel, whatever.  But
> do NOT dilute with - shudder - ice!  Okay?  ;-)

Was that 'Okay' for me?
Do I *look* like the sort of person to have ice cubes in his cocktails?!
:)


Greg

-- 
I just might say it tonight

          [No ficus = no spam]

On 2009-11-03 03:21:11 +0000, sf   said:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:07:00 +0000, Sacha  wrote:
> 
>> *Everything* is kept in the fridge that can't  be kept in the freezer.
>> That includes the glasses, the olives, the lemon peel, whatever.  But
>> do NOT dilute with - shudder - ice!  Okay?  ;-)
> 
> I'm guessing you don't keep any food in your refrigerator.  ;)

They don't call me Two-Fridges for nothing. ;-)
-- 
Sacha
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On 2009-11-03 08:02:08 +0000, gktz@ficusheian.org.uk (Gregoire Kretz) said:

> Sacha  wrote:
> 
>> *Everything* is kept in the fridge that can't  be kept in the freezer.
>> That includes the glasses, the olives, the lemon peel, whatever.  But
>> do NOT dilute with - shudder - ice!  Okay?  ;-)
> 
> Was that 'Okay' for me?
> Do I *look* like the sort of person to have ice cubes in his cocktails?!
> :)
> 
> 
> Greg

No!  It was an overall plea for kindness to genuine dry martinis!   
Perhaps we should start a Society.
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Gregoire Kretz  wrote:
> I'm too lazy for this. Syrupy gin straight from the freezer is enough
> for me. :)

My gin-drink-of-choice at the moment involves a crushed/forked/scraped
out half of a pink grapefruit muddled with a large shot of ice cold
Plymouth gin and topped up with tonic (Tesco own brand only, as it's the
only one I've found that doesn't use artificial sweetener!).  No ice as
it makes my teeth hurt.

On 2009-11-04 16:44:57 +0000, sf   said:

> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:21:09 +0000, Sacha  wrote:
> 
>> On 2009-11-03 03:21:11 +0000, sf   said:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 00:07:00 +0000, Sacha  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> *Everything* is kept in the fridge that can't  be kept in the freezer.
>>>> That includes the glasses, the olives, the lemon peel, whatever.  But
>>>> do NOT dilute with - shudder - ice!  Okay?  ;-)
>>> 
>>> I'm guessing you don't keep any food in your refrigerator.  ;)
>> 
>> They don't call me Two-Fridges for nothing. ;-)
> 
> Is that your American Indian name?  LOL

Somehow, that sort of ruins the image for me.  ;-)
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Sacha  wrote:

> It was an overall plea for kindness to genuine dry martinis!   
> Perhaps we should start a Society.

Excellent idea.
We will picket places that do them badly, put pressure on those that
don't do them at all, and run workshops in places that sell the
ingredients.
My naughty favourite is when the olive is stuffed with an almond.


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wrote:

> My gin-drink-of-choice at the moment involves a crushed/forked/scraped
> out half of a pink grapefruit muddled with a large shot of ice cold
> Plymouth gin and topped up with tonic (Tesco own brand only, as it's the
> only one I've found that doesn't use artificial sweetener!). 

I think Waitrose have an equivalent, in addition to a rather posh tonic
water.
That one looks good. For some reason I would see it as a great summer
drink.

It's funny, gin and whisky are regularly mentioned, but I don't think
rum is a popular drink in the UK?


Greg

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On Nov 8, 1:55 pm, g...@ficusheian.org.uk (Gregoire Kretz) wrote:
> Sacha  wrote:
> > It was an overall plea for kindness to genuine dry martinis!  
> > Perhaps we should start a Society.
>
> Excellent idea.
> We will picket places that do them badly, put pressure on those that
> don't do them at all, and run workshops in places that sell the
> ingredients.
> My naughty favourite is when the olive is stuffed with an almond.
>
> Greg
> --
> I just might say it tonight
>
>           [No ficus = no spam]

Yuk, to the Martini that it, I'll say yes to the olive and almond but
I would snatch the olive with an anchovy out of your mouth, I love
them :-)

Judith

On 2009-11-08 13:55:54 +0000, gktz@ficusheian.org.uk (Gregoire Kretz) said:

>  wrote:
> 
>> My gin-drink-of-choice at the moment involves a crushed/forked/scraped
>> out half of a pink grapefruit muddled with a large shot of ice cold
>> Plymouth gin and topped up with tonic (Tesco own brand only, as it's the
>> only one I've found that doesn't use artificial sweetener!).
> 
> I think Waitrose have an equivalent, in addition to a rather posh tonic
> water.
> That one looks good. For some reason I would see it as a great summer
> drink.
> 
> It's funny, gin and whisky are regularly mentioned, but I don't think
> rum is a popular drink in the UK?
> 
> 
> Greg

I don't think many people drink it, no.  I've heard of a some drinking 
rum & blackcurrant.  I don't really like rum, except as an ingredient 
in cooking.
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Gregoire Kretz  wrote:
> It's funny, gin and whisky are regularly mentioned, but I don't think
> rum is a popular drink in the UK?

White rum is more popular than dark rum, in general.

On 2009-11-08 16:31:12 +0000, sf   said:

> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:27:33 +0000, Sacha  wrote:
> 
>> I don't really like rum, except as an ingredient in cooking.
> 
> I guess you've never had a mojito.  They're addictive!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJGSZxZvpPk
> Brand of rum is optional.


You're right - I hadn't stopped to think of rum in hot climates - 
another thing altogether.  In the early 80s we sailed in the Caribbean 
with a friend whose idea of elevenses was rum punch made with very dark 
rum - forget the name now - but it was fantastic!

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> Gregoire Kretz  wrote:
>> It's funny, gin and whisky are regularly mentioned, but I don't think
>> rum is a popular drink in the UK?
>
> White rum is more popular than dark rum, in general.

I don't see the point to white run.  Dark rum has a very precise place in 
the world of alcohol, but mostly way outside my venue.  I nice, rounded, 
medium rum is a lovely thing both for the kitchen and a series of tasty 
summer and winter drinks.  Hot buttered rum?  yes!  Daiquiri?  Sì!
It looks to me as though GB has forgotten her seafaring past and the portion 
of rum that went with it.

On Nov 9, 7:34 am, "Giusi"  wrote:
>  ha scritto nel messaggionews:7lodilF3datk0U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> > Gregoire Kretz  wrote:
> >> It's funny, gin and whisky are regularly mentioned, but I don't think
> >> rum is a popular drink in the UK?
>
> > White rum is more popular than dark rum, in general.
>
> I don't see the point to white run.  Dark rum has a very precise place in
> the world of alcohol, but mostly way outside my venue.  I nice, rounded> medium rum is a lovely thing both for the kitchen and a series of tasty
> summer and winter drinks.  Hot buttered rum?  yes!  Daiquiri?  Sì!
> It looks to me as though GB has forgotten her seafaring past and the portion
> of rum that went with it.

Bananas sprinkled with damp brown sugar, a dollop of cream and a
splash of rum, wrapped in foil and cooked in the oven or on the BBQ,
lovely.

Judith

On 2009-11-09 09:38:43 +0000, Judith in France 
 said:

> On Nov 9, 7:34 am, "Giusi"  wrote:
>>  ha scritto nel messaggionews:7lodilF3datk
> 0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> 
>>> Gregoire Kretz  wrote:
>>>> It's funny, gin and whisky are regularly mentioned, but I don't think
>>>> rum is a popular drink in the UK?
>> 
>>> White rum is more popular than dark rum, in general.
>> 
>> I don't see the point to white run.  Dark rum has a very precise place
> in
>> the world of alcohol, but mostly way outside my venue.  I nice, rounded
> ,
>> medium rum is a lovely thing both for the kitchen and a series of tasty
>> summer and winter drinks.  Hot buttered rum?  yes!  Daiquiri?  S
> ì!
>> It looks to me as though GB has forgotten her seafaring past and the port
> ion
>> of rum that went with it.
> 
> Bananas sprinkled with damp brown sugar, a dollop of cream and a
> splash of rum, wrapped in foil and cooked in the oven or on the BBQ,
> lovely.
> 
> Judith

Oh those are wonderful.  But I bake mine in the skin in the oven.  When 
the skin is black, they're ready.  Each person slits the skin with the 
tines of a fork and pours in rum and cream.  In our family they're 
known as 'dirty bananas'.   Saves on the foil, too.  ;-)
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On 2009-11-08 19:10:11 +0000, Sacha  said:

> On 2009-11-08 16:31:12 +0000, sf   said:
> 
>> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 15:27:33 +0000, Sacha  wrote:
>> 
>>> I don't really like rum, except as an ingredient in cooking.
>> 
>> I guess you've never had a mojito.  They're addictive!
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJGSZxZvpPk
>> Brand of rum is optional.
> 
> 
> You're right - I hadn't stopped to think of rum in hot climates - 
> another thing altogether.  In the early 80s we sailed in the Caribbean 
> with a friend whose idea of elevenses was rum punch made with very dark 
> rum - forget the name now - but it was fantastic!

Just remembered - it was Mount Gay rum - very dark, very good.
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Giusi  wrote:
> Hot buttered rum?  

Interesting.  Is that ... made how it sounds?

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> Giusi  wrote:
>> Hot buttered rum?
>
> Interesting.  Is that ... made how it sounds?

Probably not.  You make a "batter" of spices, butter, etc. and then add rum 
to some of it and then boiling water.

In article <1j8v7xg.80uerwpn21qfN%gktz@ficusheian.org.uk>, Gregoire 
Kretz  writes
> wrote:
>
>> My gin-drink-of-choice at the moment involves a crushed/forked/scraped
>> out half of a pink grapefruit muddled with a large shot of ice cold
>> Plymouth gin and topped up with tonic (Tesco own brand only, as it's the
>> only one I've found that doesn't use artificial sweetener!).

I like the sound of that. Might try it.

>It's funny, gin and whisky are regularly mentioned, but I don't think
>rum is a popular drink in the UK?

I haven't tried it since Taste of London a few years back - there was a 
marquee serving one Brazilian brand (Sagatiba, possibly) in cocktails, 
with quite impressive displays by a couple of mixologists (I think I saw 
them again auditioning for one of the Britain's Got Talents).

Quite pleasant to sip and relax after trekking round for almost four 
hours on a very hot day.
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congokid  wrote:

> In article <1j8v7xg.80uerwpn21qfN%gktz@ficusheian.org.uk>, Gregoire 
> Kretz  writes
> 
> >It's funny, gin and whisky are regularly mentioned, but I don't think
> >rum is a popular drink in the UK?
> 
> I haven't tried it since Taste of London a few years back - there was a
> marquee serving one Brazilian brand (Sagatiba, possibly) in cocktails,

Some Brazilian ones are a lot of fun, starting with cachaça (sp?). There
was a great bar at home with macerations, and there is nothing more
enticing than a stick of liquorice giving you the eye from within a jar
of rum. Orange peels were nice, and so were dried apricots.

Memories... :)


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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 08:34:36 +0100, Giusi wrote:

> It looks to me as though GB has forgotten her seafaring past and the portion 
> of rum that went with it.

dark rum is there, as is golden rum and white rum
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"Mike.. . ."  ha scritto nel messaggio
 Giusi wrote:
>
>> It looks to me as though GB has forgotten her seafaring past and the 
>> portion >> of rum that went with it.
>
> dark rum is there, as is golden rum and white rum

There, but apparently not consumed much, if one goes by this group.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:02:30 +0100, Giusi wrote:

>> dark rum is there, as is golden rum and white rum
> 
> There, but apparently not consumed much, if one goes by this group.

lambs navy rum puts hairs on your chest! 100 proof. Ahhhh Jim lad!

"Rum and black" in the 60s.

Churchill described the (olden) Navy as "(navy dark)rum, bum and the lash"

Bacardi white rum is for white stilettos, gold hoop earings, white body kit
mercedes, rich "white trash".

Gold is for rastas, spain and  us if not backpacking, when its navy, but
spare the bum and lash, maybe.


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